LOL - sounds good - and easy - enough. But how easy is it really? And how many Kim Jung's are waiting in line behind him? (IL > UN > ZO > ED >BOB -> SJUNG... and on and on )
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A troll that doesn't provide any valuable insight with words and instead just posts random pictures or videos trying to address his point of view.
It's an act of war for one. Second, we'd look pretty bad on the international stage if we're just killing people we don't like.
I get it, we're America and people have to be friends with us cuz we're the most powerful, but we'd get crushed diplomatically if/when we got caught.
You're right. I never try to make an argument on here. Meanwhile, my argument in this thread is that we should be willing to talk to everyone. You say that us talking to the guy legitimizes him, but it doesn't. His nuclear weapons already did that for him.
its a poster named Florida Tar Heel on the Tar Heel Radar board.
I think he's saying all you Floridans are the same
#FloridaMan
It didn't stop us with Saddam or Gaddafi. I'm sure the CIA could drum up some kind of black flag BS to make it look legitimate.
Except a lot of that Florida Man nonsense comes from transplants and not native Floridians.
I think a lot of the more hardcore people on the right didn't want us engaging with NK up until Trump decided to.
I bet if I dug up some posts from 2015-2016 it'd reflect a lot of our crew doing a complete 180 on this topic.
It's frustrating that some people feel like they have to defend Trump on everything, even when it goes against something they previously felt.
I bet if I dug up some posts from 2015-2016 it'd reflect a lot of our crew doing a complete 180 on this topic.
It's frustrating that some people feel like they have to defend Trump on everything, even when it goes against something they previously felt.
Gambino mob heir predicts Michael Cohen will get WHACKED in prison because 'inmates love Trump and hate rats'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ir-predicts-Michael-Cohen-WHACKED-prison.html
Says he's going to end up like Whitey Bulger.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ir-predicts-Michael-Cohen-WHACKED-prison.html
Says he's going to end up like Whitey Bulger.
I don't doubt that some people have pulled a 180. I did it about 15 years ago. Sometimes it's convenient for your situation and sometimes your eyes are opened up to other realities.
I know. Just having fun....Florida is a great state, and I know some good people I've met there. The Florida Man bit is for sure overused, compared to odd people in other states, too.
I think Dave Barry made a sort of career about writing about stuff he thought only could happen in his home state of FL. He's a pretty decent satire writer.
So did I, was a liberal and gradually as I got older my views have become much more conservative.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about being for something one day and against it another simply because Trump said so.
Oh, I didn't take offense to it. There's definitely a lot of wacky stuff that goes on down here. There must be something in the water. Actually, there is and it's called toxic green algae.
No, they weren't different circumstances and China is just as ruthless today as they have always been and they are just as ruthless as North Korea.
My guess is that KJU wants sanctions lifted, since that is what he has said he wants. And our intelligence community also told us that Iraq was loaded with WMDs and we saw how that turned out. I am done giving the benefit of the doubt to people who profit off of war, but you do you.
Yeah, I completely agree with that.
I kind of went the opposite way. I went from a conservative to what most people would consider a libertarian. So, I guess I drifted more to the "left".
I hear this a lot, but it doesn't make sense to me. Who considers him more legitimate now that he's met with Trump? From what I can tell, every one still hates him.
Ok, so answer the question. What would you do?
We've ignored that whole regime for years and what did it get us? At least now he's not firing rockets over Japan. Trump gave it a shot and walked away, no harm no foul.
My argument is the foul is his people now perceive him as even more of a God.
The end huge goal of the US is getting him out of power and making them a democratic ally. This weakened that effort.
I have what I thought were principled, constitutional, libertarian friends that do exactly what Dadika is saying. It dismays me and discourages me greatly. How they will not debate some issues or perceptions of people or actions with you until they see where Trump stands on that issue, person, action.
I think it happens because generally they see (their view - not mine) - a culture and society at war, left vs. right, conservative vs. liberal / socialist, and they see the media not being objective and trying to tear down Trump (and conservatives) every day, same for Democratic politicians who Trump supporters see as having only priority as destroying Trump instead of doing what is right for the country....
...so these people support Trump regardless of whether they deep down agree with or believe his stance on an issue - driven by fear that conceding anything about Trump actions or comments might be wrong - is equal to conceding precious turf in this all-out us vs. them, facts be damned political war. More like a cult - and protect the cult hero on every issue regardless of whether it makes sense or is what you used to believe.
Another part is that people support Trump facts-be-damned, and justifying his bad behavior, comments, etc. is they are tired of getting sold out, ignored, mocked, fooled by pols of both parties. I know this phrase is overused and is ridiculed, but they like that Trump actually (seems to) listen to them, relate to them, fight for them, instead of mock or ignore them. This is especially true in rural and working class blue collar areas of the country.
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Yeah - I agree that the media/left constantly attacking Trump helps cause this defense of his supporters. I'd bet if they eased off of him it'd open up more objective views from his base.
I hate that everything in the media is so black/white.
His own people are eating food that is fertilized by their own shit. They're willing to do that because they worship him. It's impossible for them to think he's now more legitimate.
Of course it is. I've watched way too many of these NK doc films...all the people who have defected have all said that's where his legitimacy comes from, being accepted on the world stage. They live on that crap.
He's not being accepted though. I'm sure that's what he tells them, but he already told them that.
OBL was an international terrorist who was the leader of a rogue organization that was responsible for an attack on the USA.
KJU is the leader of a sovereign state.
I think they're almost equally awful, but the international community disagrees. I think leaders generally don't like to see other leaders get taken out. More importantly, NK has a very powerful ally that we don't want to go to war with.
Trump has praised that POS and said he believes him when Un didn’t know about Warmbier.
I can never understand why Trump is quick to crush Democrats or traditional allies like France and Germany but kiss the ass of Saudi, Putin, or Un.
I can never understand why Trump is quick to crush Democrats or traditional allies like France and Germany but kiss the ass of Saudi, Putin, or Un.
Because he works for them, they got him elected, duh.
Agree on both, but I don't think we want to find out for sure.
So the worst thing that happened out of this was Kim got a picture to use to lie to his people? I find it hard to get all bent out of shape over that. As long as he didn't remove the sanctions, I'm not getting upset about the meeting. A picture doesn't freak me out.
It's odd that he does that. I can only think that he tries to crush allies so he can be the BMOC. It's an ego thing for him.
Probably because we aren't paying for the armed forces of those other countries.
Wouldn't be surprised at all. I'd probably bet on him getting taken out within a year or two. Whitey knew he was gonna get snuffed out. That's what happens to rats.
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