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I wasn't intending to brag (despite the "toot my own horn" joke). For all you know I could make $5K a year, and a "decent amount" of that in my mind could be $100.

And I do think it has relevance to the topic. If you're willing to take other people's money to donate to certain causes, but not your own, that seems a little disingenuous.

Supporting a social safety net is not the same thing as me taking your money and redistributing. Unless the federal government wants to hire me as an economist, I have no say in how your taxes are distributed.

Its also disingenuous to complain about redistribution to poor people if you're okay with unnecesarry corporate subsidies.
 
So, are you saying what he said is not true or is faked by someone pretending to be him?
Neither but Dan Rather has been proven a partisan hack, see the Bush fake documents he passed off as real. I don't have a problem deploying troops to the border as a deterrent To those lovely people from entering our country. How is them jumping to the front of the line fair to those doing it the right way?
 
They might not have access to the type they want, but a condom is readily accessible.

That's simply not true everywhere. And if a convenience store is the only place to buy them then can be pretty pricey.
 
That's simply not true everywhere. And if a convenience store is the only place to buy them then can be pretty pricey.
Other than the mountains of West Virginia, can you give me an example of where it's hard to get one? I've never seen a pricey one either. Although I guess pricey is subjective. If you can't afford a few bucks, then you could always keep it in your pants and save up for it. Or you can take matters into your own hands.
 
Other than the mountains of West Virginia, can you give me an example of where it's hard to get one? I've never seen a pricey one either. Although I guess pricey is subjective. If you can't afford a few bucks, then you could always keep it in your pants and save up for it. Or you can take matters into your own hands.

There are lots of underserved inner city communities that don’t provide reasonable access to health clinics.

It’s not reasonable to expect people to forego basic human nature because they’re poor. Hormonal birth control would be extremely cheap to provide to everyone
 
Neither but Dan Rather has been proven a partisan hack, see the Bush fake documents he passed off as real. I don't have a problem deploying troops to the border as a deterrent To those lovely people from entering our country. How is them jumping to the front of the line fair to those doing it the right way?
How are they jumping the line?
 
There are lots of underserved inner city communities that don’t provide reasonable access to health clinics.

It’s not reasonable to expect people to forego basic human nature because they’re poor. Hormonal birth control would be extremely cheap to provide to everyone
You don't have to go to a clinic to get birth control. It's reasonable to think that people should forego it and be responsible about it, but I realize that's asking too much of the human race.
 
You don't have to go to a clinic to get birth control. It's reasonable to think that people should forego it and be responsible about it, but I realize that's asking too much of the human race.

That’s what I’m saying. Condoms are not that cheap at Walmart, much less at a gas station. They can be close to ten bucks for a three pack in some places. That’s more than some people spend to feed their families for a day.

I think lots of people are just out of touch when it comes to extreme poverty. And people aren’t going to stop having sex because they can’t get birth control. Our brains are hardwired for reproduction.
 
That’s what I’m saying. Condoms are not that cheap at Walmart, much less at a gas station. They can be close to ten bucks for a three pack in some places. That’s more than some people spend to feed their families for a day.
You consider that pricey?
 
How are they jumping the line?

Showing up at the border and requesting refugee status is perfectly legal. They aren’t jumping the line at all. Refugee status is completely different than economic migration.

Many conservatives have chosen to dismiss the claims of refugee status that these people are making. They choose to believe that these people are just shameless opportunists and they aren’t really fleeing anything.
 
Showing up at the border and requesting refugee status is perfectly legal. They aren’t jumping the line at all. Refugee status is completely different than economic migration.

Many conservatives have chosen to dismiss the claims of refugee status that these people are making. They choose to believe that these people are just shameless opportunists and they aren’t really fleeing anything.
If they are refugees fleeing their terrible country why are they carrying their home countries flag? How about sport an American Flag if becoming American is that important?
 
If they are refugees fleeing their terrible country why are they carrying their home countries flag? How about sport an American Flag if becoming American is that important?

Where are they going to get an American flag?

I’m pretty sure the majority aren’t carrying flags at all. But even if they were, refugee status does not require a show of patriotism towards America or completely denouncing your own country. Them carrying flags is completely irrelevant.
 
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For someone who is eating on less than a dollar per day? Yeah that’s pricey.

Personally I’m in the raw dog it camp. Condoms are lame.
Other than homeless people no one is eating on a dollar per day. If you have that little income, then you're getting food stamps.

I'm tired of arguing about this. The facts are birth control is cheap and available to people that want it. The only way you can argue against that is to be unreasonable about what you consider to be expensive.
 
Where are they going to get an American flag?

I’m pretty sure the majority aren’t carrying flags at all. But even if they were, refugee status does not require a show of patriotism towards America or completely denouncing your own country. Them carrying flags is completely irrelevant.
Hell they're "Made in Mexico" LOL And why not just stop in Mexico?
 
Other than homeless people no one is eating on a dollar per day. If you have that little income, then you're getting food stamps.

I'm tired of arguing about this. The facts are birth control is cheap and available to people that want it. The only way you can argue against that is to be unreasonable about what you consider to be expensive.

I’m tired of arguing about this too. The facts are birth control is not accessible for everyone, particularly in underserved poor communities.
 
Supporting a social safety net is not the same thing as me taking your money and redistributing. Unless the federal government wants to hire me as an economist, I have no say in how your taxes are distributed.

Well no, it's not the same thing. But what you're advocating for is for someone to take my money and distribute to the people they see fit, despite what I may feel is the right place for it.

Its also disingenuous to complain about redistribution to poor people if you're okay with unnecesarry corporate subsidies.

I'm against corporate subsidies. Not the least of which are the subsidies to providers of green energy.
 
Well no, it's not the same thing. But what you're advocating for is for someone to take my money and distribute to the people they see fit, despite what I may feel is the right place for it.



I'm against corporate subsidies. Not the least of which are the subsidies to providers of green energy.

Yeah I’m advocating for taxes. How radical of me...

Corporate subsidies should be reserved for companies that provide positive externalities. That’s basic economics. Subsidizing a corporation that generates external benefits moves the quantity produced towards the efficient quantity. Ironically you named one of the few types of corporations that should be subsidized. Green energy companies clearly generate positive externalities by reducing the cost of carbon emissions.
 
Its no accident that Trump is sending troops now. He knows they are weeks away from reaching our border but he knows that putting boots on the ground to keep out brown people gives his base a hard-on for election day.

I’m going to call him and ask him to send troops to Yadkinville to send you to Honduras.
 
Maybe when you start getting a regular paycheck and see just how much is taken out of it you might go too.

Lol I get regular paychecks from multiple sources. I’m just not miserable enough to engage in an anonymous dick measuring contest about who has the best job. And given the level of obsession that some of the right wing posters have with me, I definitely wont be sharing any employment details. But don’t worry, I’m doing great and I love what I do.
 
Lol I get regular paychecks from multiple sources. I’m just not miserable enough to engage in an anonymous dick measuring contest about who has the best job. And given the level of obsession that some of the right wing posters have with me, I definitely wont be sharing any employment details. But don’t worry, I’m doing great and I love what I do.
Who said anything about who has the best job? And since you are doing so well, which I'm happy for you, why don't you just pay a little extra in from now on, you can do that you know.
 
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