OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[NoleSoup4U]

Tuesday pretty much put an end to that winning BS.

Not really. Not unless the Dems can cheat themselves to a couple more Senate seats. With control of the Senate, Trump can start appointing judges at will. The Dems can try to stall out some policies for a couple of years, but all that's going to do is piss of the public, especially if the economy takes a dip and the perception is that it's being held back by the new variable in the equation, essentially the Democrat controlled House.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

By letting nole blow him

I like my answer better.

Besides, I could never be gay. I have a terrible gag reflex.

 

[nctransplant]

Tuesday pretty much put an end to that winning BS.

More federal judges and Supreme Court justices say hello.

 

[uncboy10]

I like my answer better.

Besides, I could never be gay. I have a terrible gag reflex.

Your answer was silly. The US economy is facing wage stagnation, and trump’s tariffs have caused layoffs in the manufacturing sector. Reducing regulations just means that corporations can pollute the environment and they don’t have to pay for it. Not forcing them to internalize those negative externalities is obviously a stupid move.

The Paris accord was a slush fund for politicians? LMAO the only politicians who oppose it are owned by big oil.

 

[uncboy10]

I like my answer better.

Besides, I could never be gay. I have a terrible gag reflex.

I doubt mr mushroom reaches your throat anyways.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Your answer was silly. The US economy is facing wage stagnation, and trump’s tariffs have caused layoffs in the manufacturing sector. Reducing regulations just means that corporations can pollute the environment and they don’t have to pay for it. Not forcing them to internalize those negative externalities is obviously a stupid move.

The Paris accord was a slush fund for politicians? LMAO the only politicians who oppose it are owned by big oil.

The Paris Accord was nothing but an $80 billion handshake deal. There was no way to enforce anything. It was a slush fund. And I'm willing to discuss regulations one by one. Not all regulations are bad, and not all of them are good either. There were a lot of regulations that needed to go. As for stagnant manufacturing jobs, where have you read that? Everything I've seen has been about job growth in the manufacturing industry. The one negative spot everyone has been pointing to is agricultural.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

I doubt mr mushroom reaches your throat anyways.

You're pretty obsessed with Trump's penis. Do you work for CNN?

 

[nctransplant]

Your answer was silly. The US economy is facing wage stagnation, and trump’s tariffs have caused layoffs in the manufacturing sector. Reducing regulations just means that corporations can pollute the environment and they don’t have to pay for it. Not forcing them to internalize those negative externalities is obviously a stupid move.

The Paris accord was a slush fund for politicians? LMAO the only politicians who oppose it are owned by big oil.

Yeap you're right again about wage stagnation
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/31/worker-pay-rate-hits-highest-level-since-2008.html

 

[BillyL]

Trudeau makes 45 look like the pussy he really is, afraid of stairs, rain and blood . . . Mr. Tough Guy Trump ? LMFAO @ this assclown.

 

[uncboy10]

The Paris Accord was nothing but an $80 billion handshake deal. There was no way to enforce anything. It was a slush fund. And I'm willing to discuss regulations one by one. Not all regulations are bad, and not all of them are good either. There were a lot of regulations that needed to go. As for stagnant manufacturing jobs, where have you read that? Everything I've seen has been about job growth in the manufacturing industry. The one negative spot everyone has been pointing to is agricultural.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tariffs-trade-war-layoffs-business-losses-2018-8

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-plant-close-layoffs-trump-tariffs/927203002/

http://fortune.com/2018/07/05/trump-tariffs-us-layoffs/

 

[nctransplant]

The Paris Accord was nothing but an $80 billion handshake deal. There was no way to enforce anything. It was a slush fund. And I'm willing to discuss regulations one by one. Not all regulations are bad, and not all of them are good either. There were a lot of regulations that needed to go. As for stagnant manufacturing jobs, where have you read that? Everything I've seen has been about job growth in the manufacturing industry. The one negative spot everyone has been pointing to is agricultural.

His professors told him so it must be true.

 

[BillyL]

More federal judges and Supreme Court justices say hello.

Representative Adam Schiff and the House say 'hello' and btw, Mr. Prez, here's your subpoena . . go get 'em.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Trudeau makes 45 look like the pussy he really is, afraid of stairs, rain and blood . . . Mr. Tough Guy Trump ? LMFAO @ this assclown.

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Trump owns him in the only place that counts. In the economy. I don't care about ceremonies for wars fought 100 years ago, that we shouldn't even have been involved in, in the first place. I feel bad for the men who were drafted to go fight Europe's war for them, but we never should have been involved.

 

[uncboy10]

Yeap you're right again about wage stagnation
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/31/worker-pay-rate-hits-highest-level-since-2008.html

https://goo.gl/images/sGJUDu

 

[NoleSoup4U]

His professors told him so it must be true.

I was lucky. My economic and finance professors weren't straight Keynesians, and if they were, they kept it to themselves and only dealt with the facts.

 

[nctransplant]

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tariffs-trade-war-layoffs-business-losses-2018-8

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-plant-close-layoffs-trump-tariffs/927203002/

http://fortune.com/2018/07/05/trump-tariffs-us-layoffs/

Did you even read these articles? For example the fortune piece is about jobs that could be lost. Not jobs lost.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

https://goo.gl/images/sGJUDu

That article is talking about wages keeping up with inflation. It doesn't mean that wages aren't getting better. I'll agree with you that we're spending too much money.

 

[BillyL]

More #winning

 

[nctransplant]

Representative Adam Schiff and the House say 'hello' and btw, Mr. Prez, here's your subpoena . . go get 'em.

Adam schiff, pelosi and waters. That's a group to be proud of.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Did you even read these articles? For example the fortune piece is about jobs that could be lost. Not jobs lost.

And that's a great point. It isn't just about gaining jobs, but avoiding losing jobs too.

 

[uncboy10]

That article is talking about wages keeping up with inflation. It doesn't mean that wages aren't getting better. I'll agree with you that we're spending too much money.

Wages aren’t keeping up with growth in productivity or executive compensation. It’s been that way for decades

 

[uncboy10]

Did you even read these articles? For example the fortune piece is about jobs that could be lost. Not jobs lost.

Jobs have already been lost, and more can be lost in the future if trump doesn’t heed the warnings like those in the fortune article.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Representative Adam Schiff and the House say 'hello' and btw, Mr. Prez, here's your subpoena . . go get 'em.

You're going to be so disappoint. Even if they could impeach him, the Senate still has to vote to remove him.

 

[nctransplant]

Wages aren’t keeping up with growth in productivity or executive compensation. It’s been that way for decades

Stagnant or not keeping up which is it?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Wages aren’t keeping up with growth in productivity or executive compensation. It’s been that way for decades

Oh I definitely agree with you there. The gap between wages and GDP has been getting worse since we started targetting inflation as opposed to unemployement.

 

[BillyL]

Adam schiff, pelosi and waters. That's a group to be proud of.

They're not embarrassing the USA every day as the POTUS is . . so, I love them. 45 is just a lying ass idiot.

 

[nctransplant]

Jobs have already been lost, and more can be lost in the future if trump doesn’t heed the warnings like those in the fortune article.

Yeap article said 60 had been lost and 500 would be hired. Easy math. That's a lose

 

[uncboy10]

Stagnant or not keeping up which is it?

Not keeping up means they are stagnant when you factor in inflation and purchasing power.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

They're not embarrassing the USA every day as the POTUS is . . so, I love them. 45 is just a lying ass idiot.

That's because nobody outside of the US cares about them. They can only embarrass their political party.

 

[nctransplant]

They're not embarrassing the USA every day as the POTUS is . . so, I love them. 45 is just a lying ass idiot.

Oh they embarrass Americans maybe you should listen to them sometime rather than posting trump pics in your basement 24/7.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Jobs have already been lost, and more can be lost in the future if trump doesn’t heed the warnings like those in the fortune article.

Well, if inflation is getting worse, that means employment is getting better. So, I don't know why you would think jobs are going to be declining.

 

[uncboy10]

Yeap article said 60 had been lost and 500 would be hired. Easy math. That's a lose

So you cherry picked one line and ignored the part about 23,000 jobs being lost in the solar sector? And Harley relocating production? And Volvo no longer hiring 4000 people?

And the part about the chamber of commerce arguing that 2.3 million jobs could be lost as a result of the tariffs. Did you even read the article?

 

[prlyles]

By reworking terrible trade deals. By getting rid of regulations that were stifling to the economy. By forcing our "allies" to pay more for the defense of their countries. By getting us out of un-Constitutional treaties, like the Paris Accord, which was nothing more than a slush fund for politicians. That's just off the top of my head. I could probably come up with more.

Edit: Oh yeah, how could you forget his assault on illegals, which has helped drive up wages for the US worker. He also took away the ACA tax for people who didn't want those garbage, overpriced, health insurance policies. So much winning!

lol...some thing you can't fix.

 

[uncboy10]

Well, if inflation is getting worse, that means employment is getting better. So, I don't know why you would think jobs are going to be declining.

Are you basing that assumption on the Phillips curve? That’s been disproven multiple times. There is not always a negative correlation between employment and inflation.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

So you cherry picked one line and ignored the part about 23,000 jobs being lost in the solar sector? And Harley relocating production? And Volvo no longer hiring 4000 people?

And the part about the chamber of commerce arguing that 2.3 million jobs could be lost as a result of the tariffs. Did you even read the article?

Nobody is saying that jobs will never be lost. The job market is always going to be in flux as new technologies come about. What @nctransplant is talking about is the net job situation, which is increasing overall.

BTW, has anyone heard from Krugman lately, or is he still licking his partisan wounds over those terrible prognostications?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Are you basing that assumption on the Phillips curve? That’s been disproven multiple times. There is not always a negative correlation between employment and inflation.

Sure, it isn't a 100% correlation, but it's pretty damn high.

 

[nctransplant]

So you cherry picked one line and ignored the part about 23,000 jobs being lost in the solar sector? And Harley relocating production? And Volvo no longer hiring 4000 people?

And the part about the chamber of commerce arguing that 2.3 million jobs could be lost as a result of the tariffs. Did you even read the article?

Could be lost......and the solar industry was propped up by the government. Solyndra anyone?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

lol...some thing you can't fix.

Luckily the economy isn't one of them, amiright?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

@uncboy10

What are your thoughts on the Elephant Graph?

 

[uncboy10]

Sure, it isn't a 100% correlation, but it's pretty damn high.

The point is you can’t make the assumption because it’s it’s often disproven.

Nobody is saying that jobs will never be lost. The job market is always going to be in flux as new technologies come about. What @nctransplant is talking about is the net job situation, which is increasing overall.

BTW, has anyone heard from Krugman lately, or is he still licking his partisan wounds over those terrible prognostications?

Were not talking about net jobs in the total economy. We’re talking about the effects of trump’s tariffs. Obviously we’ve been in a period of sustained growth since before trump took offices, and as a result job growth has been there. That doesn’t mean that trump’s tariff’s aren’t having a negative effect. It doesn’t have to completely eliminate job growth to mean it’s not doing damage. You’re conveniently ignoring confounding variables.