Have you even checked employment numbers lately? How does unemployment and job participation keep getting better while we are bleeding all these jobs you say we are losing?
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It isn't often disproven. That's an embellishment.
As for sustained job growth under Obama, are you talking about how he took one 35-hour-a-week job and turned it into two 17.5-hour-a-week jobs due to the ACA? That'll increase jobs real quick, but what good did it really do?
I thought shitting on soldiers and protesting their memorials was the cool thing to do these days? Trump was probably just trying to fit in.
I know some of you can never pass up a good war, but why should we have been involved? In all probability, our involvement helped bring about the rise of the NAZI party, and we all know how that one turned out.
Well you were the one making fun of Krugman. You do realize he’s one of the major advocates for the theories about globalization hurting the middle class in wealthy nations right?
I think there are better explanations than globalization. The super rich have gotten even richer thanks to automation. The middle class has been left behind, and poor people have become better off as a result of increased development.
See my post about confounding variables. In a growing economy, a bad policy doesn’t have to completely eliminate job growth to be harmful. The job growth would be greater if we didn’t have the tariffs.
Today descent people are remembering the people who died for you and that piece of shit you voted into office.
No doubt automation has caused some of the problems. If you ever watch any of Mark Blyth's interviews or lectures online, one of his go-to lines is, "machines don't buy stuff," and he's right. All that being said, the bigger threat is this move towards globalization and these bad trade agreements.
As for Krugman, I rather doubt we don't agree on anything. My point was that he's a partisan hack who's nothing but a whoremonger for the multi-nationals.
They didn't die for me. They died for the Europeans. We were in no threat. I feel bad that they were forced into conscription, but that doesn't mean we should have ever been there.
I understand what you're saying, but that isn't entirely true. Tariffs, especially non-universal tariffs generally aren't a good idea, but at some point, you have to fight back against unethical business practices of other countries. You take the hit now in order to make bigger gains tomorrow. Besides, our little hit is destroying other economies. We have all the power at the bargaining table, I suggest we use it.
I’m not sure what you mean by globalization. If you mean importing goods and offshoring production, then those are largely considered to be benefits from economic terms. It eliminates the opportunity cost of labor used in production that is inefficient if we can source the goods in a cheaper manner.
We’re going to need a radical transformation in distribution sometime in the next century. Automation and AI are going to make human labor obsolete. That’s a serious problem under our current models of distribution.
They're benefits for the companies, not for the workers. It depends on what side of the issue you come down on. Do you favor maximizing supply chains, or do you factor the US worker into the equation? For all the focus on business ethics nowadays, I find it shocking that more people don't discuss this issue.
Sanctions work better than tariffs IMO. China needs to export goods to keep their manufacturing industry afloat. Banning their exports would cause a serious hit to their economy.
That’s why I said from an economic standpoint. Obviously total surplus is not the only metric, but those laborers are also consumers, and maximizing the supply chains actually shifts surplus to them as consumers while simultaneously expanding total surplus.
I think we’re going to need something like UBI. Jobs are going to start disappearing and they aren’t coming back. And that will happen regardless of ‘globalization.’
I plan on dying sometime within the next century so it probably won't bother me.
Sanctions are an act of war as far as I'm concerned. You're waging economic war on another country.
I think the best way to counter-act automation is to fix our education system. Those machines are still going to need engineers and repairmen. Another way to combat this is to crunch down even more on immigration. Yet another way is to cut stringent regulations, put in by corporate lobbyists, that hurt small businessmen. The issue I have with UBI is that it's going to hurt innovation and competition.
Actually they don’t. I know it sounds a little crazy to some people but eventually the engineers will be computers. And the repairmen will be robots. Once AI advances far enough there won’t be a single problem that a human brain can solve better than a computer. And once robotics become advanced enough there won’t be any manual labor left for humans either.
It sounds a little dystopian but that is the inevitable result if technology maintains any positive rate of growth. It may take 10, 100, or 1000 years, but it’s coming.
Yeah, at some point I don't doubt that, but we're nowhere near close to that, at least from what I've seen.
Edit: As long as I can get my cybernetic implants by then.
Robots will have taken us out before that happens. All you have to do is watch the Terminator to know that.
NoleSoup going in dry on Boy. Meanwhile Lyles is babbling on like the moron he is. Much more entertaining than watching CAROLINA lose yet another football game. (Hey Lyles- were you aware CAROLINA was playing football today?)
I'm not much for lube...or foreplay.
It doesn't. I just like making fun of Lyles.
In all likelihood, Lyles doesn't know a football from a casaba melon, let alone know who Carolina is playing.
His only goal for this trip was a possible lunch meeting with Putin. He doesn't give a shit about American soldiers who gave their lives. He don't want to get his comb over wet. He is a real piece of work....
Casaba melon? Are you running a special on those next week at the Yadkinville General Store?
Just drawing a conclusion from the fact that he has never once poasted about CAROLINA in any way, shape or form.
Why do you think he is a CAROLINA fan?
God damn man, can't you and the inbred at least once get the name of the store right?....lol
Why does he need to be . . ? Is NoleSoup4U a UNC fan . . ? What's the difference . . ?
I root for you guys when you play Miami!
BOGO for anyone who brings a ticket stub from any CAROLINA game
@UNC71-00 's Yadkinville General Store? Better?
He can be anything he wants to be. Hell, he's been a fool the entire time he has poasted here and no one has shown him the door, nor is advocating for such.
As far as NoleSoup, he at least has his team name in his user name, so I am inclined to think he is aware of the existence of FSU. Whereas I am not sure Lyles is aware of anything other than Trump and the humiliation he suffered from betting against Trump.
Honestly, I miss the old FSU vs. UNC wars back in the 90's. We both suck now and it just isn't good for the ACC, IMO.
Yeah, at some point I don't doubt that, but we're nowhere near close to that, at least from what I've seen.
Edit: As long as I can get my cybernetic implants by then.
I don’t think it’s that far off. But it will be a gradual process anyways. For example, self driving cars are almost here. And that’s not going to be good for the trucking industry which employs a shit ton of people.
You can hang out in my bunker. Just bring UNC game tapes from 2015
Wow . . that really means something.
Mr. Lyles has been on this board for over 12 years . . and you're just now getting around to complaining of his presence and contributions . . ? Why . . ?
