This was your opportunity to call him Ride2Tickets or something like that...
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This was your opportunity to call him Ride2Tickets or something like that...
And that's something that is seriously ****ed up. I guess we should be thankful that there's nothing like that happening anymore, and that people have to resort to being outraged over a fuggin statue to get their rocks off nowadays.
Well, to clarify, if they came to his FATHER'S house- My grandfather... And, of course, he was from an older generation. He was born in rural SC in 1917, near Dillon.
But, back when my dad grew up in Petersburg, VA, there was no outrage over it. It was just "how it was." Now, I don't know how commonplace that kind of racial etiquette was, either. I mean, fromt he stories I've heard, my grandfather was very familiar with a great many black people. He sold them furniture and bedding and all kinds of stuff on credit. When he got killed, when the train hit his car, there was a black guy ("colored man") in the passenger seat with him who survived!
There will be prejudices and I'm sure that as long as people can convince other people that the ones who "look like we do" are better, then there will be racism.
It will impact the end result, sure. Like I mentioned earlier, with the war. The upheaval and destruction that was endured made the "transition" a lot harder for everyone. There was animosity over the loss of life and lifestyle. There was poverty... you name it. And, if the black man was the scapegoat, even more difficult a struggle for them.
I don't know that it was ever going to be an easy transition because of the degree of the institution and the amount of time it had lasted. To them (white slave owners), it was perfectly natural. And, the Bible was used abundantly to back it up. It was a religious culture to boot.
But, if abolitionists had not "fought harder and harder" they'd likely still be in chains. And, if people in the 50s and 60s hadn't fought hard, they'd still be in their own segregated schools and everything else.
Want proof? Here you go then. I always knew Canadians were fat and drunk, but I didn't think it was this early in the day.
And I love Trudeau as long as he stays in Canada. The guy is better than Elizabeth Warren for a laugh.
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"But that's not Presidential behavior!"
Of course it's not, and that's why I love it.
I guess you'll have to ask them. Or, wait until you see/hear about it. Apparently, removing these statues, flags, and other monuments that commemorate the Confederacy is the current agenda. If the State of South Carolina can remove that battle flag from the state house, then anything is possible. 25 years ago, I never thought that could happen. In fact, in 1993 I marched in a counter-protest for the battle flag to remain over the state house. I'm ashamed of what I did, then. It finally came down and moved to where it was even more visible on the statehouse grounds. Now... it's completely gone. You can still read about how SC was the first state to secede from the union. No one has banned that from history books. No one is rewriting history. It seems that the present-day Old South is finally ashamed of the monuments to the things that made the Old South shameful.
I'm sure that Andrew Jackson's actions weren't considered presidential either, but he was one of the most badass presidents in US history.
Double, triple, quadruple.......truth hurts. Good example is the school systems. There is a push to eliminate suspensions and expulsions because it effects a higher number of black kids. Well maybe the jackasses should consider acting appropriately in school and they wouldn't get kicked out.
You guys are saying some racist shit. Don't feed into the middle aged southern white man stereotype talking about how equal everything is now.
You also sound like the dad in American History X.
I'm not really attacking you...I think a lot of people (not on this board which leans toward actually agreeing with this...cuz, ya know, middle aged southern white people) would react much worse. I'm simply saying you guys are saying some racist shit, not that you're actually racist.
I have this discussion all the time with my friends. My 4 best friends are two Indians, a Colombian, and a black guy so we get all the different personal perspectives and absolutely bust on each others racial stereotypes.
One thing my black friend says and I've heard it from others is that it's impossible to know that feeling (being black in America) unless it's happening to you. He related it to a panic attack or depression or addiction in the sense that until you've experienced it, you can't really know from the outside what it feels like.
So this "we are equal" shit, in my experience discussing this at nauseam with friends, is that it is just that...shit. So nah, I don't really want to get into it with a middle aged southern white guy who I don't know on a message board.
Which is why I just left it at "not your best look" and not more of an attack. Worse shit is said in every thread on this board.
Great poast. What a stretch some will go to to say what we've said is racist. I'll make sure to let my mixed race granddaughters know their Pa is a racist. And GFY with that bull$hit.
Blah blah blah. That's like saying Thomas Jefferson wasn't a good president because he owned slaves.
The dude almost got killed fighting for the rights of the common man. The problem with the Indians wasn't started by him and it didn't end with him. That was a continuous war between multiple countries. Weren't you the one defending Napolean just the other day?
Don't mean to butt in but if all things are equal, as you say now, how do you explain all the differences in everything from crime rate to std. of living, to educational level, etc. etc. Why are all these measures different?
It's always easier to blame your failures on some shadowy figure than it is to accept responsibility yourself.
You realize that all that stuff has only gotten worse the more the government has tried to "help", right? The Great Society has decimated the Black community. Explain that.
The differences are due to choices made. If you really want to know why more black people have been jailed, you need to ask Bill and Hillary "Superpredator" Clinton who exploded the prison population during his term. Look, it's easier for black people to go to college than white people now. What else can we do as a society? They actually have an educational advantage over everyone else. At what point do you put the onus on the individual to do the right thing?
As I said. Board comprising mostly southern white middle aged men I expected you to have support.
And the fact you claim that you speak to black people and they agree with you that it’s now “equal” means they are very lucky or (more likely) lying to you.
And the fact you claim that you speak to black people and they agree with you that it’s now “equal” means they are very lucky or (more likely) lying to you.
Blacks are pretty much treated equal as long as they act white and assimilate themselves into white culture. If they talk white, dress white, go to white churches...pretty much do all they can to water down their heritage and not act “uppity”, then they’re allowed to be equal ftmp.
Does it shock you that people who have the same culture tend to group together? Do you think black people that act "black" treat white people who act "white" any different than they would another black person who acts "black"? Hell, if a black person acts "white", the black community is the first to insult them, calling them an Uncle Tom or some other denigrating insult.
That sounds racist. I believe all ethnicities are the same.
CNN and MSNBC call for Trump impeachment 179 times on Friday before Mueller came out and disputed the allegations.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/18/cnn-msnbc-impeach-trump-buzzfeed-mueller/
Gee, CNN and MSNBC ran with a story without verifying it? Imagine that! And people wonder why fewer folks are trusting the media nowadays.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/18/cnn-msnbc-impeach-trump-buzzfeed-mueller/
Gee, CNN and MSNBC ran with a story without verifying it? Imagine that! And people wonder why fewer folks are trusting the media nowadays.
Just because you refuse to acknowledge it, and you think everything is square, doesn't mean that's the reality that others observe.
The truth is; it's NEVER "square." It's never finished. It's a continuous process. I don't personally agree with some of the methods and remedies that are being used in some of the situations. But, I'm just glad that there's an incentive. If errors occur, then I hope they're addressed and don't become mistakes. But, the process never crosses the finish line. It's never perfect. It's up to us to keep trying to make it better.
I don't want to put words in @Terror Beard's mouth, but I think he was trying to say that black people have the same rights and opportunities as white people, so that makes things equal. It's not really debatable that the rights are equal. You could debate opportunities all day though because it's such a complex issue.
You're a lot like the character Hilly Holbrook in The Help... "Separate, but equal."
You know, if I didn't know any better, I'd say you've been eating too much pie.
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