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Yeah, like hating Joe Biden for example and thinking he’s a threat to your family and way of life lol.
Well that's certainly progress. I'm glad you have finally found one thing that Trump did you felt was a good thing and could pay him a compliment. Hope it didn't hurt too badly.
I knew he was a con-man from the first time I saw him... maybe 1989? I knew he was a caricature. But, he was just a sideshow. His physical persona is screaming "LOOK AT ME!" I didn't need the "media", or a political candidacy, or a reality tv show, to convince me of that. He has meticulously orchestrated his whole presence. Do media outlets show contempt for him? Of course they do. He's great for business! He loves that kind of coverage (negative) the most. He can cultivate that into more support and more fuel for his gimmicks.
If you admire him and think he's a great leader, that's your choice.
He's a demagogue and he plays the victim role endlessly. He earns, and deserves, every dime he gets from his "donors." He's ideal for nationalists who are leery of immigrants and foreigners. And, more importantly, he appeals to people that are skeptical of the US Government. He can pander to them better than most politicians that I've seen in my lifetime. He never had a political career to jeopardize and he could be much more aggressive in his rhetoric. But, in the end, he's all about himself.
Some people deserve to be hated because of the kind person they are. Anyone who doesn’t hate Trump has a problem.
This is spot on and a very good answer to why most of the people in the world hate the man.
I'm not advocating, or even suggesting, for anyone to HATE the man! Hating him (or anyone) only reflects back to yourself.
But, I would encourage people to stop and think "This guy has no business in American government."
I can’t think of any quality in Trump that a person would not find repulsiv.e.
During his administration, there were fewer wars, military involvements and dead US military personnel that in the previous administrations. I think that deserves recognition and appreciation. I dunno how much he, directly, was responsible for it... but, I'm glad it was scaled WAY back. So, I don't find that repulsive at all.
What does any of that matter? Why didn’t the MSM report on it? Why did big tech censor it? Even if it was “disinformation”, they should have at least allowed others to bring it forward.
They squashed it for one reason - because it made Joe look bad and Trump look good. You’re a fraud and a liar if you don’t acknowledge that fact.
That's a policy though. He wants to talk purely personal qualities which is a very dubious basis for casting ones' vote.
Getting the troops out is when the last helicopter leaves. Reducing troop levels isn’t “getting out”
if one wanted to look for it, from back in the early primary days, he could find a post of mine saying that Trump wasn't a serious candidate and that in fact he was a clown candidate. He changed my mind when I realized that he was what we needed, a non-politician who spoke his mind, pulled no punches, and played no political games. Unlike you perhaps, I was also aware of him from long before as not just a businessman but someone who hated our status as being the big-hearted guy who gets taken advantage of (in ways) all around the world.
You get something stuck in your head and you can't let it go, like your WAY overdone 'victim' shtick. It's nothing short of crazy that one can reference the relentless character assassination and political skullduggery that one has suffered for six years and end up being accused of playing the victim card. Only the disturbed would be loony enough to make such an accusation. I think it's a miracle that his ego has somehow gotten him throught it all.
And you, without evidence to support the contention, accuse him of pandering to 'nationalists who are leery of immigrants and foreigners'. Wasn't it you who complained about there being no middle ground? Is it also you suggesting that if you don't want to open the borders to anyone who wants to walk right in, that you are leery of immigrants and foreigners? He wants what I and many others want...to allow reasonable immigration into our country. But because we are such a desirable choice for immigrants, we want to first choose and promote those who will most likely enhance our country's strengths. ACTUAL strengths, not your
I don't care how rough and abrasive he is. I don't give two shits about his personality. I'm not holding my breath thinking I might get that dinner invite any time now. I just want a pit bull guarding my door.
Some people apparently missed the part of their education where it was explained what having a country actually means.
LOL. By that definition, we are still there by the hundreds if not thousands.
Yeah! Who gives a shit about the Americans and instability left behind!
Way to go Joe. He must have campaigned on killing Americans and middle eastern allies. Because like you say, he’s getting things done.
What else would you want to measure a person who is going to be the leader of the world by?
He’s no more hateable than any other politician. You’re just a sucker for the left wing media hysteria. “OUR DEMOCRACY IS IN DANGER!”
lulz
Hate is not a choice I would make. I wouldn't want to be supportive of his kind of rhetoric, and I wouldn't want to mimic that kind of rhetoric. But, hating it is similar to holding a grudge. Holding a grudge only hurts me... if I do that.
I don't hate him.
Our democracy is always in danger. That's a perpetual situation.
The last helicopter is still there, along with a shitload of other military equipment. I think some taliban guy is living in it.
So when ARE we getting out?
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Actually, you may find this to be an outlandish concept, but his or her positions on the issues and the policies they tend to support would be top of the list. All things being equal would I want them to also be nice, etc.? Of course, but being a wonderful guy is not what we need as president when they're own bedroom represents the same challenge as an escape room to them. Our leader is not being hired to be a preschool assistant.
I know, you (and all of his supporters) love him because he "pisses off the libs." And, most importantly, he's not a democrat. You didn't need to write another novella.
Oh, and the victim stuff is not my shtick. Trump openly insists that he's a victim. The media, the deep state, the whoever and whomever are all out to get him. It's all bullshit, but he believes it, and his supporters believe it.
Explain to me why you hate him. Do not accuse him of being racist as there are no facts to back that up. Do not say he collided with Russia because there are no facts to prove that. Do not say he intentionally inspired an “InSURrEcTiOn” because there are no facts that prove that.
So, using the guidelines outlined above, why do you personally hate him?
We should all be leery of immigrants and we should all be skeptical of the government.
Gawd bless gunslinger for caring so much about those poor people in afghaniville
Trump is not the only occasion where you've used the victim shtick. The shtick is definitely yours. But Trump is the one who actually is a victim, of media one-sidedness and political malfeasance......and only the willingly blind fail to see the plain truth of that.
And excuse me, but regarding your hate a dem, any dem shtick....your one-track mentality is showing.
yeah, who cares about those American soldiers who got killed while Biden was trying to get his dick out of the pickle jar.
really? Funny you don't even try to substantiate that. I guess I'm not the one lying.
I don’t give a shit about them other than how it will ultimately impact me/us. And it weakened us. Basically every military personnel who has commented on it has said as much.
you want an outlandish concept? Conceptualize @prlyles understanding anything other than 'orange man bad'.
I'm skeptical of government. But, I'm leery of demagogues that breed hate and division a lot more than "immigrants." The fear of foreigners is not my thing, really.
Ok. So it’s not your thing. Fine. But it benefits America in general to be skeptical of immigrants. Let them come here properly, be upstanding citizens for some time and prove they have positively added to the fabric of our country then they will be respected. Is that a weird thought? Kind of seems like that’s fairly logical.
You ever been an immigrant? You ever been desperate to leave where you live- where you were born and raised- and your only option is to risk your life trying to leave it? If you haven't, then it's entirely possible that you are seeing it from only one side.
Coming "here" properly is probably different to me than it is to you. There's also no universal, objective understanding of "America", so, the stuff about "prove they positively added to the fabric" crap is just more nationalist bluster. It's not a weird thought. It's a predictable, typical thought from someone who is afraid of foreigners.
Nooo... that's a description of YOU, not me. You're skeptical of half of them and you embrace the other half.
I, on the other hand, know that they're all for sale and they all, collectively, don't give a shit about average people.
No, I’ve never been an immigrant. But if my house burned down and I needed a place to stay and went to the homeless shelter, I’d make sure to mind my Ps and Qs because I’d be appreciative of somewhere taking me in.
As to the rest of that mush mouth garble, talk about predictable…Nothing is more predictable than your dire need to seem virtuous and keep up appearances of this faux persona you’ve created here. We all know it’s just your silliness. No one here believes this phony shit you’ve cooked up. (yes, this is me speaking for everyone or I guess I could create a poll and embarrass you if you want). Stop it and get some help.
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