Overly Sensitive People

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

If it wasn’t done in poor judgement, Kellogg’s wouldn’t have removed it.

That's just incorrect. A company will remove/replace anything that can be seen as offensive regardless of what the intention/judgment was.

Question for you about the red neck talk. How quickly can you identify if someone is a redneck? I don’t mean it as a bad thing. I’ve got lots of redneck family and friends.

The irony in this is laughable, but needs to be addressed since you've said it a few times now. Why is it ok to profile and identify rednecks using stereotypes... but not other people?

 

[ticket2ride04]

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

@ticket2ride04 - you really need to pick your troll game up. You've got the first half down with being intentionally obtuse and saying things that you couldn't even possibly believe to be true just to try to get under other's skin. But you're lacking in the second vital piece, which is after you get called to the carpet on it - you're supposed to double down on it and make even more outlandish claims. Use some wit to make some counterarguments man. Saying "sigh" or poasting a stupid gif as your counterargument is half assed, and leaves the troll job only half done.

You've demonstrated potential, and I'd hate to see that go to waste. Make the jump to next level trolling.

 

[ticket2ride04]

Whatever you said before, but quicker by one minute

But really it just depends on how overt they are and it depends on the setting. If we're somewhere where it's on full display (outdoor festival/concert, tailgate, race, bar, etc.) it's gonna be easier to quickly recognize than if you just strike up a convo with a dude at an airport.

Thank you. My point is most of us can rightly pick out a red neck quickly. @tarheel0910 was trying to make it sound like we had to do some deep detective work to figure it out.

That's just incorrect. A company will remove/replace anything that can be seen as offensive regardless of what the intention/judgment was.



The irony in this is laughable, but needs to be addressed since you've said it a few times now. Why is it ok to profile and identify rednecks using stereotypes... but not other people?

- they took it down because a group if people deemed it inappropriate or offensive. If you are in the business of selling a product, don’t offend your base. ———-> hence the poor judgement.


- that question requires a more nuanced answer. First, I’m not profiling rednecks, exactly. I’m making an assumption based on years of evidence. I’d say a large portion of black people don’t tip as well as white people additionally. I think it’s fine to observe and even comment on trends, but more important to understand why these trends happen. In the stereotype thread I commented on Asians being bad drivers. Later, I explained why I thought it the case

People of color, especially Hispanics, have long held more menial jobs than white collar jobs. No one is debating that. They point the father was trying to make was that they can be more than that. It’s important for children to see people they identify with in importabt roles. Women/girls growing up experience something similar with body issues. Barbie comes to mind.

Anyway, this could go on and on. I’m not offended by the kernel but I could certainly see someone else being offended. I wouldn’t care either way what happened. In this case, it went quite smoothly as @JuleZ '02 HEEL and I have tried to point out.

 

[heelmanwilm]

While red neckedness is certainly subjective there are some absolutes

Chewing or dipping bakker
Wearing overalls
Any clothing that mentions tractors
Rooting for nc state

 

[ticket2ride04]

@ticket2ride04 - you really need to pick your troll game up. You've got the first half down with being intentionally obtuse and saying things that you couldn't even possibly believe to be true just to try to get under other's skin. But you're lacking in the second vital piece, which is after you get called to the carpet on it - you're supposed to double down on it and make even more outlandish claims. Use some wit to make some counterarguments man. Saying "sigh" or poasting a stupid gif as your counterargument is half assed, and leaves the troll job only half done.

You've demonstrated potential, and I'd hate to see that go to waste. Make the jump to next level trolling.

Maybe my next level thinking is so far removed from your ability or understand? What seems like gibberish to you is 3-D level chess.

Maybe I can slow it down and use more simple words. Maybe even use pictures to help

 

[TarHeelNation11]

Rooting for nc state

This is also a plea for medical evaluation.

 

[Raising Heel]

You seem to live up to the ignorant redneck quite well.

- drinks only domestic beer and brown liquor

can we please address this point because **** this guy

 

[tarheel0910]

Wearing overalls

You must have been asleep during the 90's. It's making a comeback with the ladies as well.

Any clothing that mentions tractors

Depends. If it's dirty and worn in, it's almost guaranteed to be a redneck. If it looks clean, then it's most likely a poser.

Chewing or dipping bakker

I'll give you that one, although there is a slight chance they could just be a baseball player.

Rooting for nc state

Can't argue with that one.

 

[gunslingerdick]

And while we're talking about commercials and advertisements, anyone ever notice this trend that 100% of companies do with TV commercials:

- Black friend and white friend
- White friend makes a mistake or doesn't use the commercial's product
- Black friend is shown in better light because they do.

It's the same way in every commercial. Companies are so terrified to be labeled "racist" that they do this in every commercial. Now, it doesn't offend me one bit because I, you know, live in the real world and don't have time to worry about such snowflake things as a commercial being racist. And because, IDGAF either way.

But I do think the double-standard is hilarious. Nine hundred thousand TV ads make the black guy look smart and the white guy look dumb, nobody says anything. One friggin cereal box has a slightly browner humanoid cereal piece scrubbing the floor, and somebody flips their delicate lid over it.

QFT. This is so spot on. I've been talking about this with my wife for a couple years now. It's hilarious. If you just watched commercials these days, you'd think interracial marriages make up 90% of marriages. And you're exactly right, it's all because a company doesn't want to have an angry liberal accuse them of being racist.

I haven't read all the responses here yet but so far, I have to agree with @Hark_The_Sound_2010. If most professional basketball players are black, then it would make logical sense to depict them as such when you create something showing professional basketball players. And in that specific instance, there would be no gripes. But let a company have only white doctors in a pharm commercial and we'd never hear the end of it.

As for @ticket2ride04's comments, I'm part redneck so I'll be happy to clear this up. But let me first explain that I'm only redneck when I want to be. I turn that shit on and off like a light switch. But when I want it on, I can neck it up with the best of 'em. As for how we eat meat, I personally like mine medium-rare. My wife, who isn't very redneck, likes her's well done. My brother-in-law is as red as a Hank Williams Jr. concert and he doesn't even eat red meat. So in short, @ticket2ride04 is probably just trying to be an asshole. I don't find his theory on meat eating rednecks to have any validity whatsoever.

Lastly, as far as people getting offended by everything, yes, it's annoying. But I am training myself to not give a f*ck who's offended by what.

 

[gunslingerdick]

And b). Most rednecks prefer their steak rare, despite having no evidence to support the claim?

Where is your evidence to the contrary? That you're a waiter? lol

 

[Littlejon]

QFT. This is so spot on. I've been talking about this with my wife for a couple years now. It's hilarious. If you just watched commercials these days, you'd think interracial marriages make up 90% of marriages. And you're exactly right, it's all because a company doesn't want to have an angry liberal accuse them of being racist.

I haven't read all the responses here yet but so far, I have to agree with @Hark_The_Sound_2010. If most professional basketball players are black, then it would make logical sense to depict them as such when you create something showing professional basketball players. And in that specific instance, there would be no gripes. But let a company have only white doctors in a pharm commercial and we'd never hear the end of it.

As for @ticket2ride04's comments, I'm part redneck so I'll be happy to clear this up. But let me first explain that I'm only redneck when I want to be. I turn that shit on and off like a light switch. But when I want it on, I can neck it up with the best of 'em. As for how we eat meat, I personally like mine medium-rare. My wife, who isn't very redneck, likes her's well done. My brother-in-law is as red as a Hank Williams Jr. concert and he doesn't even eat red meat. So in short, @ticket2ride04 is probably just trying to be an asshole. I don't find his theory on meat eating rednecks to have any validity whatsoever.

Lastly, as far as people getting offended by everything, yes, it's annoying. But I am training myself to not give a f*ck who's offended by what. And then when I see an oversensitive type, I might even put some effort into offending them.

Might as well keep with the theme here.

 

[ticket2ride04]

Where is your evidence to the contrary? That you're a waiter? lol

Was a waiter. Served and bartended for a long time. Anyone in that industry would agree.

Now I’m basically a kept man.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

People of color, especially Hispanics, have long held more menial jobs than white collar jobs. No one is debating that. They point the father was trying to make was that they can be more than that. It’s important for children to see people they identify with in importabt roles. Women/girls growing up experience something similar with body issues. Barbie comes to mind.

So this gets to the crux of the issue. No one is saying that they can't be more than that. Depicting one janitor pop as brown doesn't mean that children can't be a wide variety of other professions if they're brown. Or that white children can't be a janitor.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Was a waiter. Served and bartended for a long time. Anyone in that industry would agree.

Now I’m basically a kept man.

I tended bar myself in Greensboro and in Charleston years ago and the only stereotype I ever picked up on was that black folks are shitty tippers (is that racist?). Never noticed what you're talking about. But I acknowledge that if it didn't have anything to do with how much money I was taking home, then I wasn't paying attention to it. Plus, I used to get wrecked pretty much every shift so...

 

[TarHeelNation11]

can we please address this point because **** this guy

What, drinking only domestic and brown liquor?

 

[CanuckChuck]

FWIW it was basically one guy that tweeted about the cereal box.

There are now hundreds if not thousands of snowflakes tweeting about how offended they are that he was offended. #triggered

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I'm not offended (it's a damn cereal box) but the guy/gal who thought "wouldn't it be funny if there was a brown corn pop janitor" should be called out for the racist "joke".

CC

 

[cletusnow]

You seem to live up to the ignorant redneck quite well.

Let me guess

- didn't go to UNC
- drinks only domestic beer and brown liquor
- medium well steaks
- has never vtraveled outside the US.




Good lord, you continue to display a child-like mental capacity.

Now let me guess

You have an extensive wine collection
Own many leather bound books
Enjoy dinner parties where you joke about all of the ignorant rednecks
You take it in the ass

 

[CanuckChuck]

Exactly. Kids aren't offended and don't think things are racist until you tell them they should offended and think it's racist. The sooner we can stop manufacturing racism, the sooner it will finally be gone from society. But the cynical side of me thinks that people want there to continue to be racism, so they hop up on their soapboxes whenever they can to call out racism and thus keep it alive.

Not only was in the only menial job in the picture, but it was the only job in the picture. Every other pop is goofing around not working. The funny thing is that if all the other pops were brown, and the "janitor pop" was white, people would find a way to be offended and say "look! the only pop actually working in that picture is white while all the brown ones screw around... racists!!!"

Until you realize "They don't make brown corn pops". This isn't a M&M add where a brown M&M may be an innocent choice. Someone made up a brown corn pop and put it a janitor uniform "on purpose", most likely as a racist joke.

CC

 

[tarheel0910]

Until you realize "They don't make brown corn pops". This isn't a M&M add where a brown M&M may be an innocent choice. Someone made up a brown corn pop and put it a janitor uniform "on purpose", most likely as a racist joke.

CC

I have no doubt it was done on purpose. I don't know if whoever did it was racist or if they were doing it for a laugh just to see what would happen. I could easily see @Hark_The_Sound_2010 @TarHeelNation11 or @gunslingerdick doing something like that just to see if people would notice it and get upset. I wouldn't consider any of them racists though. Either way, it would never enter my kids mind that it was racist. To them it was a brown corn pop working. The whole thing was overblown in my opinion.

 

[TarHeelNation11]

I have no doubt it was done on purpose. I don't know if whoever did it was racist or if they were doing it for a laugh just to see what would happen. I could easily see @Hark_The_Sound_2010 @TarHeelNation11 or @gunslingerdick doing something like that just to see if people would notice it and get upset. I wouldn't consider any of them racists though.

As my dad always says, "I'm not racist. I hate everybody."

 

[CanuckChuck]

I have no doubt it was done on purpose. I don't know if whoever did it was racist or if they were doing it for a laugh just to see what would happen. I could easily see @Hark_The_Sound_2010 @TarHeelNation11 or @gunslingerdick doing something like that just to see if people would notice it and get upset. I wouldn't consider any of them racists though. Either way, it would never enter my kids mind that it was racist. To them it was a brown corn pop working. The whole thing was overblown in my opinion.

Sorry but I tend to not give racists the benefit of doubt. All we know is that they made a racist joke. Period. If I knew the person or persons involved maybe I would have a different opinion.

And images like this do matter to kids. It may not make then think of racism but the subconscious mind is a crazy place. Plus - who says only kids like cereal?

CC

 

[CanuckChuck]

As my dad always says, "I'm not racist. I hate everybody."

Wonder if he know my dad. He was racist and he hated everybody.

CC

 

[TarHeelNation11]

Sorry but I tend to not give racists the benefit of doubt. All we know is that they made a racist joke. Period. If I knew the person or persons involved maybe I would have a different opinion.

And images like this do matter to kids. It may not make then think of racism but the subconscious mind is a crazy place. Plus - who says only kids like cereal?

CC

Okay so this brings up something else I want to talk about and that is the complete devaluation of the term "racist" the past 5+ years. People throw around the word "racists" in 2017 and it doesn't mean shit anymore.

Example: When folks dug through the Twitter account of that reporter Cam scoffed at (Jourdan Rodrigue?), they found two particular Tweets. One said something like "this drive home is hilarious. Dad's telling racist jokes the whole way and I'm dying!" and the other just said "n***a" in casual conversation.

And, not surprisingly, lots of folks were like "ooooooh, she's a racist!!!!!!!!" Dude, just no. Just no. Just because you make a racist joke does not make you racist. You know who WAS racists? The folks who kidnapped, tortured and killed Emmitt Till in the 50s. Guess who else was? Folks who lynched blacks in the early 1900s, 10s, 20s, etc. Those are people demonstrating actual racism.

"Racist" is way overused now and it's lost its meaning.

 

[tarheel0910]

Sorry but I tend to not give racists the benefit of doubt. All we know is that they made a racist joke. Period. If I knew the person or persons involved maybe I would have a different opinion.

Ok, so you just assume everyone is racist. That's ok. I'm not going to assume he is or isn't racist. He certainly could be racist or he could be someone who's just trying to get a rise out of people. Either way I don't really care.

And images like this do matter to kids. It may not make then think of racism but the subconscious mind is a crazy place.

You'd be right if you weren't wrong. Racism is taught to children by adults. No one is born a racist. The only way a child would know that this was racist would be if they were told that it is.

Plus - who says only kids like cereal?

Any adult old enough to understand what is going on isn't going to become a racist because of this box.

 

[CanuckChuck]

Okay so this brings up something else I want to talk about and that is the complete devaluation of the term "racist" the past 5+ years. People throw around the word "racists" in 2017 and it doesn't mean shit anymore.

Example: When folks dug through the Twitter account of that reporter Cam scoffed at (Jourdan Rodrigue?), they found two particular Tweets. One said something like "this drive home is hilarious. Dad's telling racist jokes the whole way and I'm dying!" and the other just said "n***a" in casual conversation.

And, not surprisingly, lots of folks were like "ooooooh, she's a racist!!!!!!!!" Dude, just no. Just no. Just because you make a racist joke does not make you racist. You know who WAS racists? The folks who kidnapped, tortured and killed Emmitt Till in the 50s. Guess who else was? Folks who lynched blacks in the early 1900s, 10s, 20s, etc. Those are people demonstrating actual racism.

"Racist" is way overused now and it's lost its meaning.

So you can't be a racist unless you kill someone?

CC

 

[TarHeelNation11]

So you can't be a racist unless you kill someone?

CC

I'll take Sweeping Generalizations for 500, Alex.

 

[CanuckChuck]

Ok, so you just assume everyone is racist. That's ok. I'm not going to assume he is or isn't racist. He certainly could be racist or he could be someone who's just trying to get a rise out of people. Either way I don't really care.

Where did I say everyone? Sorry but I make assumptions based on words/actions. This person(s) actions make me think that they are racists.

You'd be right if you weren't wrong. Racism is taught to children by adults. No one is born a racist. The only way a child would know that this was racist would be if they were told that it is.

This is true. And that parent going telling the child "Look at that ni**er corn pop cleaning the floors" is doing just that.

Any adult old enough to understand what is going on isn't going to become a racist because of this box.

I hope not but my faith in people not sucking is at an all time low.

CC

 

[CanuckChuck]

I'll take Sweeping Generalizations for 500, Alex.

Pot calling the kettle corn pop.

CC

 

[CanuckChuck]

I'll take Sweeping Generalizations for 500, Alex.

But seriously, I only had your words to go on. What is your definition of racism?

CC

 

[TarHeelNation11]

But seriously, I only had your words to go on. What is your definition of racism?

CC

Actually treating folks differently (harming or negatively impacting them in some way) because of their race. Very few folks nowadays reach the level of actual racism (by my definition).

I'm talking, like, you own a store and you refuse to sell to a black person. To me, that is racism.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Actually treating folks differently (harming or negatively impacting them in some way) because of their race. Very few folks nowadays reach the level of actual racism (by my definition).

I'm talking, like, you own a store and you refuse to sell to a black person. To me, that is racism.

Bingo.

 

[gunslingerdick]

And who looks at a cereal box these days anyway. This isn't the 80s when you sat down for a bowl and read the cereal box. Nowadays, kids pour the cereal and go sit in front of the TV or play their tablet. If the complainer had never tweeted his complaint, I'd say exactly 7 people in the entire world would have ever noticed. And only one of them would have been black.

 

[uncboy10]

Racism is taught to children by adults. No one is born a racist. The only way a child would know that this was racist would be if they were told that it is.

Actually that's not correct at all. Children have innate bias towards other kids who look more like them without being taught anything about race. There also seems to be a strong genetic component to racial bias when we test identical twins.

The idea that children have to be taught racism is dead wrong. They can figure it out just fine on their own. Though it obviously doesn't help to come from a racist household.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

This is true. And that parent going telling the child "Look at that ni**er corn pop cleaning the floors" is doing just that.

Do you actually think anyone has ever said that about the Corn Pops box?

 

[Raising Heel]

Do you actually think anyone has ever said that about the Corn Pops box?

** sheepishly raises hand **

 

[Raising Heel]

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Movie studio Sony Pictures apologized on Monday for a scene in its “Peter Rabbit” children’s film after an online outcry from sufferers of food allergies.

The scene in question portrays rabbit archenemy Mr McGregor, who is allergic to blackberries, being pelted with the berries by a gang of bunnies. He ultimately has an allergic reaction that requires the use of epinephrine.

 

[Raising Heel]

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Movie studio Sony Pictures apologized on Monday for a scene in its “Peter Rabbit” children’s film after an online outcry from sufferers of food allergies.

The scene in question portrays rabbit archenemy Mr McGregor, who is allergic to blackberries, being pelted with the berries by a gang of bunnies. He ultimately has an allergic reaction that requires the use of epinephrine.

 

[UNC '92]

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FINALLY!!! Thank you Jason Biggs! Since watching that movie I have felt like less of a person each time I placed my junk in those warm, fruity pies.

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

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