Roy's Health....Next Coach
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not wanting anyone on the bench either...this "family" thing should run out with roy.
we're putting interlocking n/c(2000) on a uni, turning them gray or black, possibly building a new arena...i think we're moving away from era...i'd argue there's no other "family" member in the next 3 years ready to take this job.
it should start with brad stevens and sean miller tho, imo.
we're putting interlocking n/c(2000) on a uni, turning them gray or black, possibly building a new arena...i think we're moving away from era...i'd argue there's no other "family" member in the next 3 years ready to take this job.
it should start with brad stevens and sean miller tho, imo.
How dare you question picking an ex player out of an espn booth with zero coaching experience and training him to be the coach for the sake of keeping it in the family!
The absurdity of that and that some of the smarter more well respected posters on here are on board with that still baffles me!
i wish people would stop bringing up dean smith when referring to hiring a coach with no experience...carolina, imo, isn't in the same position as it was then...
also, hoiberg left for the only job he said he would leave isu for...why would he go somewhere that expects to win, and the pressure, other than kentucky, is the greatest...he's also the perfect pro coach, imo....stevens might be the perfect college coach as evidence by his ability to get the most out of marginal talent...his guys also go to the league and transition well because they learn fundamentals in college...wow, i know, the f word used to describe a college basketball player, strange.
besides, i'm sure hubert would get it if he were passed over for a coach that had f4 experience and league experience...if he didn't, maybe he's not the guy that needs to be coaching at carolina.
also, hoiberg left for the only job he said he would leave isu for...why would he go somewhere that expects to win, and the pressure, other than kentucky, is the greatest...he's also the perfect pro coach, imo....stevens might be the perfect college coach as evidence by his ability to get the most out of marginal talent...his guys also go to the league and transition well because they learn fundamentals in college...wow, i know, the f word used to describe a college basketball player, strange.
besides, i'm sure hubert would get it if he were passed over for a coach that had f4 experience and league experience...if he didn't, maybe he's not the guy that needs to be coaching at carolina.
I don't get all of the hate about Hubert being our head coach. Assuming Roy hangs around a few more years Hubert would have almost a decade of experience under Roy. I'm not saying that makes him the only choice, but some on here don't even want him to be considered. I think by that time he should at least be considered as an option. If it were to go to someone else though, they would be smart to keep Hubert on staff.
okay...but if roy wins a title, and retires, are you comfortable with anyone on the staff right now being the head coach?...and it's likely he'll have a say in this...are you comfortable with that?
I wouldn't be comfortable with him if Roy would retire after this season. I was just talking about down the road. Even then I'm not sure I would take Hubert, it would depend on our options at the time. I just think it's odd people wouldn't at least consider it a few years down the road.
Just hire Chase Rice and call it a day. He's from the Carolina family and kicks @$$ at every thing he tries.
It's equally odd that people wouldn't at least consider hiring someone from "outside the family"
I'd like to have at least heard of a guy before we hire him. Who is this fella? Any relation to King Rice?
The whole idea of hiring within the family was not even a thing...until we had family members that were worthy of being hired. I promise you, even Dean Smith would say that hiring within the family for the sake of hiring within the family is an absurd notion. He would advocate for us to go out and hire the top coach we could find.
Former UNC linebacker - finished in 2nd place on Survivor (shoulda won it IMO), and is now one of the more popular country artists out there.
He fits the "in the family" and really doesn't have all that much less legit experience than King Rice, so if people are willing to consider King, they might as well consider Chase as well.
I realize that Stevens is probably a pipe dream, but if he wanted to be the next coach at UNC, I can't understand how any UNC fan in their right mind would rather have Hubert Davis, or King Rice, or someone of that nature over Stevens.
Oh yeah. I remember THN telling me about him a year or so ago. Just out of curiosity, he's not one of those new wave country artists that raps in his songs, is he? Country singers rapping is an abomination.
I don't believe he raps much if it all in any of his songs (I'm sure now that I say that, someone will find a song where he does). He does have a few songs where he gives a shout out to Carolina.
Jerod Haase I mean he has the same bench training from Roy that Hubert has gotten and plus he has head coaching experience!
Does that mean if Jay-Z were to put out a country album you wouldn't buy it? I got 99 problems but a tractor ain't one!
I'm not down with keeping it in the family if it gets us another Matt Doherty.
Brad Stevens would be my first choice but I don't think he's leaving Boston since he's crushing expectations there.
Tony Bennett would be next, though not sure if he'd leave UVA. Other guys I'd like are Matt Painter and Scott Drew.
That said, hopefully Roy can give us another 5 years and one of our assistants will be ready (Hubert).
Brad Stevens would be my first choice but I don't think he's leaving Boston since he's crushing expectations there.
Tony Bennett would be next, though not sure if he'd leave UVA. Other guys I'd like are Matt Painter and Scott Drew.
That said, hopefully Roy can give us another 5 years and one of our assistants will be ready (Hubert).
You know it's funny that with Hubert being chosen and put on the bench under Roy is good enough for some to say he is the guy because he is in the family, if that's the case and Roys touch is all it takes to make someone the guy why did that logic not work with Dougherty?
He coached under Roy and Mckillop he should have been extra great?
He coached under Roy and Mckillop he should have been extra great?
Many keep discussing this like it was happening tomorrow! THERE is where the big problem lies.
I'm an on-air talent at a country station here in NC and he's definitely one of the leaders of the "bro-country" movement which includes more pop and rap in songs. That said, he's a great guy, and always reps Tar Heel gear in his video series on YouTube. Not only was he a UNC linebacker and contestant on Survivor, but was also a member of Jimmie Johnson's pit crew before becoming a country music artist
I don't matter if it happens tonight or in 25 years if they hire a coach with out experience and a proven track record they are making a huge mistake.
Honestly, I think you're the only person on this thread acting like anyone thinks this is happening tomorrow. Not sure why you're on such a high horse about this one. It's a pretty fun, purely hypothetical conversation about the future of the program everyone on here loves. There isn't a single person who doesn't want Roy to win a championship this year and go on to win 3 more in the next 10 years.
There is a few posters on here that think that if your not on the Hubert Davis for coach stay in the family bandwagon your not as good of a fan for some reason
lol That pretty much sums up the theme of this board concerning any topic.
UAB has shown steady improvement under Haase.. they are 21-4 this year. Maybe he'll get an offer to a P5 school? If he proved himself at the next higher rung, then he could be a legit option 5 years down the road.
That being said, I don't give 2 $#!+$ about keeping it "in the family". Just get the best guy out there. I have faith that Bubba will do that.
not tomorrow in the literal sense, but guys, the season is almost over, six weeks???
i agree with the above poster that we all want the program to achieve its very best under whomever...however, that discussion might be happening in a lot of places other than here...i see nothing wrong speculating about the future of the program, especially when this team is considered a contender and when the head coach has had health concerns...meaning, if they win it all, it's the perfect time to exit(if he so chooses) and nobody will think poorly about the timing, he'll be going out on top, and the program will once again be on top.
if they don't win, and he leaves by choice, the pressure to find the next coach will be enormous, imo...more so than if they win it.
finally, if they win and he keeps going, i will question whether or not he's making decisions on what's best for the program...he's been incredibly fortunate that his best scorer has stayed four years?...that is so unusual!!...does anyone believe that will continue?
it's almost game time and i want them to win this one for coach williams and for themselves...lets hope for a great effort and to hang a w on that sorry bunch from durham.
i agree with the above poster that we all want the program to achieve its very best under whomever...however, that discussion might be happening in a lot of places other than here...i see nothing wrong speculating about the future of the program, especially when this team is considered a contender and when the head coach has had health concerns...meaning, if they win it all, it's the perfect time to exit(if he so chooses) and nobody will think poorly about the timing, he'll be going out on top, and the program will once again be on top.
if they don't win, and he leaves by choice, the pressure to find the next coach will be enormous, imo...more so than if they win it.
finally, if they win and he keeps going, i will question whether or not he's making decisions on what's best for the program...he's been incredibly fortunate that his best scorer has stayed four years?...that is so unusual!!...does anyone believe that will continue?
it's almost game time and i want them to win this one for coach williams and for themselves...lets hope for a great effort and to hang a w on that sorry bunch from durham.
Wouldn't surprise me if Roy packed it in after this year. Bit of a rebuilding job after this year, and it doesn't appear that this team will live up to expectations. Secondly is all of the NCAA situation surrounding UNC the last couple of years. Appears they have cleaned things up where it won't touch men's basketball, but it has still been a nagging cloud. And Roy's health is more of an issue as time passes. And for some reason Roy looks like he has aged ten years. He just looks tired. But with all those things combined, it wouldn't surprise me one bit of Roy called it a career.
Now if he does, forget Hubert. Nobody knows if he is a coach or not. Forget Hasse just because he is decent at UAB. Brad Stevens is obvious, but I don't see him leaving Boston. If not him, I go to Texas and get Shaka Smart. Good coach, and kids love to play that brand of basketball. He would kill it in recruiting at a place like UNC.
Now if he does, forget Hubert. Nobody knows if he is a coach or not. Forget Hasse just because he is decent at UAB. Brad Stevens is obvious, but I don't see him leaving Boston. If not him, I go to Texas and get Shaka Smart. Good coach, and kids love to play that brand of basketball. He would kill it in recruiting at a place like UNC.
Shaka Smart isn't that good. You can't stand Roy for not adjusting and just trying to push tempo at all times. Well Smart does the same thing just with defense instead and a worse offense.
You don't have any clue what you are talking about. Have you ever watched his teams play? Did you happen to see his totally outmanned Texas team handle UNC earlier this season? Did you actually pay attention to what he did at mid-major VCU? Obviously not.
Do you actually watch college basketball? Go look up what Smart has done offensively at VCU and now Texas. I swear some of you have NO clue.
He is a good coach but he isn't the caliber that UNC should go after. He beat Roy with Rick Barnes players who btw beat UNC before with essentially the same personnel. You can get Shaka Smart but will be looking for another coach within 5-6 years.
Ok hire him. Will you be so bombastic with your stance when it fails?
You don't need to answer because it won't happen unless Bubba can't hire the quality of basketball coach he needs to.
I never said Smart was the best choice for UNC. I just disagree with the hate against him. Especially when he has done nothing but great things at both VCU and Texas.
We Texas fans would prefer that you hate on Smart. We're happy to have him.
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