I hope the young man makes the best choice for him and his family, he may play for money eventually, but it's like he's getting a signing bonus and saving Carolina basketball..we'll be ok..I just hope he researches his decision
Udoka closing in on decision?
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i just hope the decision is his to make for his sake - no inside information but it appears others are driving this decision for him against what he would like to do - i am sure the situation is extremely difficult for him at the moment
That's 'effort and hustle! from a couple men that bleed Carolina Blue..hopefully Big U sees Chapel Hill is the best fit. If not, good luck to the young man.
Once they said FSU dropped out, which was pretty dramatic given that they had him as a lock there on 247, everyone said it would be KU instead. Now this delay can't hurt us because according to those predictions we were running a distant 3rd and then suddenly a distant 2nd to KU. The fact that he delays can't hurt us because we got in this a little later than some of the other players but clearly he is unsure and there must be a school giving him a reason to doubt his prior beliefs. We are probably that school, win or lose in this recruitment I think that more time can only help us here since we were a little later to the dance but clearly made an impression.
KU did have an assistant coach there, Jerrence Howard. My thoughts are he was going to announce his decision to play for KU but NC's push gave him second thoughts and his being a Florida guy and not choosing the local school caused a number of screws to be twisted. No inside information but it seems likely.
His delaying things IMO is a good sign for us, does he want to see what meeks is going to do? If meeks does ,leave then it is between he and Tony for the starting center role. Next, while the dukies think they have him or at least thought so up till the last couple days, rumors are it may be between Ky and KU for that kid. But if Bolden ended up at KU, then that is another position player he has to compete for PT with and they have 2 already on the bench that so far have not been factors this season. Cool would be the dukies missing on Bolden, he commit to KU and that forcing buike to us.That would be a double play to good way!
Things have obviously changed. We have picked up several crystal ball predictions since.
New to the boards guys, although I have been reading post on here for years. I enjoy reading all of your insights to Carolina basketball and especially the recruiting our Heels do. I do have a question if anyone can answer or have any knowledge of when is Udo planning on announcing his decision.
He delayed his decision. Don't think anyone knows when he'll decide. I'm with those that think it bodes well for us if he waits till Springtime. All indications are that Meeks is gone, opening up a ton of PT, an attractive proposition for Udoka.
I actually think all three schools will have a lot of playing time. KU loses most of their big man rotation, he'd start at FSU, and he'd play a lot for Roy if Meeks is gone (and likely a lot regardless). The play I think UNC has is they're relatively close to home and he'd be playing for a blue blood. KU has part of that equation but the proximity doesn't favor them. It's why I see UNC's entry as being so strong. He gets the high-high level program of KU with a better proximity similar to FSU. Win-win.
Would that put Giles at the 5 for next year? That would be music to my ears...Giles would be smart to bail-out if K does not get a center. My 3-year old grandson would put hurtin on Jeter and Obi Wan Nobi...lol
Chieck Diallo can't get on the floor for KU this year and he was a top 10. I may have already posted this , if so pardon
I assume you're saying that big men don't start for Self, but they're two different players that would be starting college in two totally different situations.
I'd say UNC, KU and FSU would likely have about the same number of minutes to go around, depending on early departures.
These guys mike..before the postponement!!http://northcarolina.247sports.com/Bolt/Source-Azubuike-down-to-two-schools-42902268
The same 24/7 that had 7th going to Lil Carolina? 
Yeah, we can really bank on them!
Yeah, we can really bank on them!
yes the same 247 that said Bradley and Robinson to UNC , Ingram , Tatum and Giles to dook and Smith to moo. do some of you guys work for Rivals?The same 24/7 that had 7th going to Lil Carolina?
Yeah, we can really bank on them!
Go back and look at the ORIGINAL picks if you can.
Been with Rivals a very long time and 24/7 spun off Rivals.
No. I have no idea of Self's history with big men. Diallo was a top 10 big man in 2015 and he is playing single digit minutes in most games. Azubuike is top 30 and his development is also in early stages. I personally think he would develop better under UNC tutelage.
They do often blow their initial prediction, luckily their second predictions tend to be a little bit better and it looks like we're trending upwards. Just got to hope for the best, Roy really features his big men and I think Udoka could flourish here!
The recruiting process is a journey and many of these kids change their minds pretty often , just look at all the recent flips in FB , so of course analysts are going to change picks. 247 has many guest analysts that they invite to make picks and most of these guys are followers of the recruiting process for various blogs , publications etc. and I think if you go back you will find the accuracy to be pretty decent. A lot of them come in and make picks very early in the process so change occurs. I don't know of another site that gives such a variety of opinions/picks and I personally find it informative and entertaining. I remember a poster on here saying he had inside info on Dennis Smith to UNC being a strong possibility and a few days later he commits to moo. Does that make me not listen to anything he says? Of course not because that individual is one of the more insightful posters on here. Just my $2 worth.Go back and look at the ORIGINAL picks if you can.
Been with Rivals a very long time and 24/7 spun off Rivals.
$2 worth? That's some serious inflation! To each his own.
based on number of words I typed. "to each his own" Just a benefit of living in the greatest country in the world.
Don't even need premi. If ppl just used the same thread for the same recruit instead of a new one made over and over you could read it when it happened back then.Yep, you boys need premi who doubt this.
Fair enough. I think most observers would say Self has a pretty impressive track record with big men but if you think Diallo proves Azubuike would flounder at KU more power to you.
So are you a KU fan , Self's agent or what? I don't think 1 player proves anything , but I think Roy's track record with bigs is equal or better than Self's. As far as a state NC > KS.
I'm a KU fan. I don't think the facts would support your belief Roy is better than Self at developing bigs - at least looking at bigs that have been drafted as that's every player's goal. As for a better location, I have been to NC many times and to UNC games and like both. Chapel Hill and Lawrence are fairly similar. If you prefer Chapel and the Dean Dome to Lawrence and Allen, fair enough. I wouldn't agree, but I'm a KU fan so not surprising.
Regardless, to get to my original point, I think UNC has an edge given blue blood status and proximity to FL. KU has blue blood status but lacks a location close to FL. FSU has location.
One thing I will give Kansas over NC. BIG BUCKS! As in whitetail deer. So line me and few of us deer hunters up with a hunt! Bleed and I would be there.
I'm glad everybody loves their team-area. Otherwise it would be a very boring world. Self just isn't my pick for HC but that's ok, you guys love him. We love Ol' Roy.
One thing I will give Kansas over NC. BIG BUCKS! As in whitetail deer. So line me and few of us deer hunters up with a hunt! Bleed and I would be there.
I'm glad everybody loves their team-area. Otherwise it would be a very boring world. Self just isn't my pick for HC but that's ok, you guys love him. We love Ol' Roy.
One other thing Kansas has over NC is DOUGH. Mucher's Bakery, Wheatfield's, Billy Vanilly. Man, they sure know how to generate a lot of DOUGH that keeps those basketball players nice and full. Bill Self declined comment but we were able to capture this picture:
Yeah but you can drive 3 hours or so from Chapel Hill and be on a beach one direction and in the mountains from the other , not so much so from Lawrence. Cold spells are brief and even the summer humidity makes no difference when you are sitting on a beach with a cold one. Oh yeah as the song says "Carolina Girls best in the world they are sweeter than candy and hotter than heat".
One thing I will give Kansas over NC. BIG BUCKS! As in whitetail deer. So line me and few of us deer hunters up with a hunt! Bleed and I would be there.
You're darn right, Mikey .... someday ... bucket list.
Developing big men does not always get reflected in the draft. 3 examples, first McAdoo, very highly hyped coming to college but the problem was he was not ready for this level of play, even with all the he should enter after his freshman season nonsense.
I STRONGLY disagree about your facts, did you not see either Brice or Hicks play as freshmen? Did you not see Joel James play this season and recall him as a freshman? I am not talking about amazing athletes that were ready to play as freshmen and left after 1 season for the NBA, I am talking about DEVELOPING big men. Developing big men means they come in not nearly ready to be big time players and before they leave they are big time players. It really doesn't matter how a kid plays in a micky D game or if he even gets on one of those teams, it is about how a kid can play at this level. Look at Skal right now, pre-season ranked and projected as #1 pick in the next draft, that is called hype. JMM was projected by all the so called experts as a very likely one & done level player, those same guru's clamoured for him to leave after his freshman season screaming he is a sure fire lotto selection. Problem was outside of a couple games in the NCAAT, he had a awful freshman season, he was no where near ready to play against competition at the major college level.
Folks look at the hype of a player, JMM became a MUCH better PLAYER each of his 3 seasons at UNC but all the guru's could talk about was how his draft stock slipped after each season? It is bizzar, you become a much better player and yet your draft stock slips because you are not living up to the hype you had coming in? There you are, wanting to prove your point about developing big men by citing facts like a crazy talented center you guys had drafted way before his game was developed? If Skal is in fact drafted lotto this season, do you credit Kalipari for developing him so well? If you do you have not seen that kid play this season cause he isn't anywhere near a NBA player right now. If you watched Hicks as a freshman you saw a kid very hesitant with the ball, definition of deer in head lights, played in a mucky D game but honestly after his frosh season looked like a buster. To borrow K's new phrase, Hicks development has been AMAZING from frosh to now. Brice as a freshman was honestly a basket case for most of that freshman season and look at the player he is now.
On the other hand for example look at Perry Ellis, considered one of the very best big men in his class, has been having an outstanding sr season but did you see the huge jumps after each season till now, see the huge leap this season.
You say the facts are in Self's favor, you forgot to share those facts? I would love to see them? Cause I got Henson, came in as a wing and was developed in to one of the best power forwards in the country, TyLer Zeller, of course Tyler Hansbourgh ( a beast at 6'7" and played mostly at center), Deon Thompson who was barely able to jump over the Cary phone book ( as thick as maybe the A's in the NY phone book) when he got here, Meeks has transformed his body from way over 320lbs to 260lbs and has the NBA looking hard at him. Brice & Hicks of course but even Joel James is unreal better than as a freshman. And yes, McAdoo did become a MUCH better player after each season he played for Roy, never really lived up to the incoming hype but don't blame that on Roy or the kid, blame that on the guru's that didn't know what they were looking at, you know, many of the same that were touting Perry Ellis as a one & done, Diello as a one & done, and Skal as the best player in the college game this season? If you want to suggest that maybe KU has been able to get more talented big men to work with, maybe we can talk but you are not going to prove facts to me that say Roy does not develop bigs as well as Bill Self, just not gonna buy that.
That is a good thing, it tells me he really wants to see what Meeks & Hicks do after this season. It is not secret that meeks plan is for this to be his last season, can totally understand the kid wanting to see if that plan works out because right now he does not exactly have NBA swagger as you would expect a kid looking to leave early and enter the next draft.
