Yet another fatal case of police brutality
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Why do YOU think the ones who are very active in the BLM movement that are or have been people of that character, are upset? Why do you think they are protesting and making so much noise? I do not agree with the way SOME of them are doing this. In fact, we had a peaceful protest this weekend here in Greenville that turned into a near riot and they were attempting to block traffice on I-385 near the law enforcement center last night and one protester ended up trying to choke a cop. I think this is ridiculous when these things get to that level but I have to ask myself WHY... why are they upset? Are they just delusional in thinking they are being treated differently? I know the numbers on the races killed by cops and I have to wonder why those whites being killed are not splattered all over the news. I thought about it last night in fact, and all I can come up with is there isn't someone right there with a camera phone to record it or what I think probably is the most likely reason, the media is attempting to create this hysteria because they know the reaction they will get and it will in turn create ratings, etc.
Still, there is an underlying problem here. I look at the young man who killed the cops in Dallas a couple of days ago. From the reports I have heard, he had been planning "something" for some time now and I suppose took this weeks events as an opportune time to act on his plan. He was going to eventually do something anyway. But WHY? What was his problem? What is the root of it? Could it possibly be because he was sent over to fight in Afghanistan like so many young people and they come back with a warped sense of how life is now? Did they witness things there that changed them forever? Does PTSD cause these things more?
Let's examine the last several mass shootings- How many can be linked to PTSD and the wars we have been subjecting our troops to. The BLM issue is separate, yet this young man managed to marry the two somehow. The media is not focused on it though, are they? They are focused on cops and the BLM movement.
So, since I am so unknowing and ignorant in most of your opinions, please, tell me where do you think the problem REALLY is?
Don't put words in my mouth. No one still wants talk about the info that he had a gun on his leg, and the cop told him to get hi hand off it
That's your point. Not mine. I never said that. More lies from you. Just a little illumination on the family tree.
And no one still wants to talk about the info that he had a gun on his leg and the cop told him to get his hand off it.
Because it destroys your narrative.
It must really suck to be you.
Care to cite where this statistic came from or is it just another of your gross generalizations?
And we'll just have to disagree about LEO's job being a thankless one. Most people I know, and the vast majority of them are law abiding citizens, would prefer that LEO's never be seen until a dangerous event occurs. Then they expect them to be johnny on the spot and rush in to protect them. It's a very thankless job.
An interesting graph we'll never see in the media:
Very telling when you consider there are five times as many white Americans as there are black Americans. The tendency to use violence to resolve issues is prevalent in black communities. I believe it is in large part due to the breakdown of the family unit. As little as 50 years ago, the illegitimacy rate in among blacks was less than 5%, it is now over 70%. All studies shown indicate that illegitimate kids are much more likely to drop out of school, use drugs, join a gang, have illegitimate children themselves, or go to prison. In most cases they are 2-3 times more likely to make these bad decisions.
And the overriding reason the illegitimacy rate has become pandemic, IMO? They have learned to work the system so that is has become a sort of livelihood for them, a source of annual income. Have one baby, get X amount of money in Welfare, SNAP, Medicaid, etc... Have three kids, get 3X the money. They can make more money if they aren't married. I'm all for helping poor people, provided they're trying to help themselves. But when we encourage negative behavior by rewarding it monetarily, it can only lead to increased negative behavior.
The Dems encourage this behavior by offering more free stuff every election. It's the main reason 95% of minorities vote Democrat every election. In effect, by promising more Welfare, Medicaid, SNAP, free college, etc..., they are buying elections. 50% of Americans don't pay any income taxes at all. 93 million are out of the work force, the smallest labor force participation rate in several decades. And millions of undocumented immigrants are pouring across our wide open borders, many of them going right on the government dole. Our national debt now exceeds our entire GDP. Regardless of how much money the government raises in taxes, we should know that they're going to spend 10% more than that amount every year, whether Republican or Democratic. We are in an untenable position.
And Ben Franklin said:
“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
As Maggie Thatcher said so astutely, "The only problem with Socialism is that sooner or later you run out of the other guy's money."
What does his MOTHER'S criminal history have to do with a cop murdering him the way he did??? Your decision to offer that backstory helps to illuminate your own racism. In fact, all your feeble attempt at justification of his murder accomplishes is to bolster the entire basis for the very existence of the whole BLM movement. You won't see it that way, of course.
It doesn't "suck to be me." It sucks to be me through YOUR filter. I wouldn't want to be anyone else.
Are you under the impression that "Black Lives Matter" is some kind of organization akin to the Black Panthers? Its a slogan. No I don't support killing cops. Believe it or not it is possible to believe that cops should be held to a high standard, and probably be wearing body cameras, while simultaneously not wanting to see them get murdered.
If you seriously think the idea is "(only) black lives matter" then could not possibly be more wrong. It's black lives matter (too). Saying "all lives matter" doesn't address the issue of the systemic racism plaguing the African-American community. Why is that so damn difficult for you morons to understand? Do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds for white people to basically be saying that the African-American community should just pipe down and be grateful for what they've got? They aren't fanning the flames. They're fighting for equality. Of course YOU want things to just settle down, and stay exactly the way they are, because you're trying to maintain your status of privilege. Whether you even realize it or not.
First, they do not say all lives matter or black lives matter to, they say black lives matter. Just imagine if a group began with the slogan white lives matter, just how long do you think it would take to be linked to the KKK?
Talk about a moronic statement, to even wonder if white people in this country, just like any people in this country no matter what race should ALL want the flames of hate to die down, not be flamed hotter. Do you support the assassination of police, you support that, you OK with pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon?
It's not ONE or THE OTHER, in that respect. Just because you're appalled at those specific policemen murdering those black people doesn't mean you hate ALL cops and you empower the criminal behavior of ALL blacks, or vice versa. Can you understand that there can be varying degrees of those variables?
Maybe we need to look through this list and see if we see ourselves in it. Do any of you identify with any or all of these statements? You "might" be a racist if.......
You hide behind the etymology of the word “thug”.
You remind people slavery is over.
You bring up Oprah Winfrey in any discussion about the struggle of the black community.
You mention we have a black President. But not because you grasp historical relevance.
You think black culture is awesome but the experience of the black community is their problem.
You called for an end to violence only after you couldn’t access the convenience of your CVS.
You cited a rap sheet of a dead man or woman (and a few still living).
You refer to riots as the cause of unrest instead of a symptom of it.
You use the term “race card”.
You mention or allude to welfare offices not being burned down in the midst of chaos.
You use the term “reverse racism”.
You think having a black friend means you couldn’t possibly be racist.
…because he/she is different and doesn’t “act like that”.
I don't even know where to begin to respond to that post, Chick. It's absurd on so many levels. Is it even possible to overgeneralize any more than you did?
If you were getting screwed over your first priority would not be getting the flames to die down. That doesn't change the status quo or rectify anyone's situation. Why should the black community want the flames to die down until they are actually treated equally? All lives matter is the entire point of the black lives matter movement. All lives can't matter until black lives matter.
You're a moron. I've said at least five times on this thread alone that killing cops is unacceptable an unjustified. Are your reading comprehension skills actually that weak? Or are you just another idiot that doesn't even bother to read, but feels the need to interject their stupidity on the rest of the world anyways?
Most of those behaviors are usually exhibited by modern racists. Social norms convince people to convince themselves that they aren't racist because that isn't acceptable socially anymore. So they find other ways to rationalize it, and this is a pretty good list of how they do that. The word "thug" is a great example. Its practically synonymous with ni%%er to half the posters here, whether they realize it or not.
Then why did you make such a lame effort to TRY and respond?
Saying "It's absurd" is about as over-generalizing as it could possibly get. She set forth a list of very concise, specific examples of behaviors, attitudes and opinions. You may not agree with any of them, but the list is there. And, the best you can muster is "that's absurd." It would have been better for you if you hadn't tried to "begin to respond." I truly believe that you don't know where to begin to respond.
I did not make that up. It is an actual test that is given in classes on races and culture. So argue with them!
It's going to be difficult. He doesn't know where to begin.
When I see someone say that, and leave it there, it usually tells me "I really can't dispute it and it's more effort than I want to put forth to try and dispute it." Comfortably ignorant, basically. But, at least it's absurd. That way he gets in a little jab.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ad-unarmed-California-teen-19-lay-ground.html
http://www.wyff4.com/news/parents-of-teen-shot-killed-by-officer-expected-to-speak/36113324
It happens to white kids, too. Maybe if we just check out everyone's mother's criminal background, it will solve the problem.
http://www.wyff4.com/news/parents-of-teen-shot-killed-by-officer-expected-to-speak/36113324
It happens to white kids, too. Maybe if we just check out everyone's mother's criminal background, it will solve the problem.
I was refusing to acknowledge the whole BLM premise until I realized that statement was true. I realized I wasn't getting it.
I see it now too! wow! So profound!
I have heard several in the BLM protests that were interviewed saying that they DO believe cops lives matter, white lives matter, etc. but this is about something that goes deeper and sadly a lot of people just aren't getting it. They refuse to. Like I said yesterday on here, we really need to read these posts in order to try and learn and understand or see another point of view, NOT read JUST to respond with our preconceived ideas or thoughts we have generally been conditioned to think all of our lives. We have to get beyond that and really think and really listen to people and then REALLY HEAR THEM before we respond.
There is a ton of money invested in making sure people continue to think that way. As long as 50% of the country is opposed to what the other 50% thinks, nothing can actually get done. Its an awesome system for anyone benefiting from the status quo.
I'll tell you why these nuts think BLM is a hate group.... they watch FOX news! That is what that douchebag Bill O'Reilly called them the black equivalent to the KKK!!!! He is a well-known idiot, of course, so I would not expect anything less from him. I would say a lot of these people that are not getting it are the conservatives for the most part (they will read that very statement I just made and say that I said ALL conservatives...LOL they cannot read on here!) But anywhooooo..... found this little tidbit... Could not resist sharing it.
You might be a conservative if...
- You think "proletariat" is a type of cheese.
- You've named your kids "Deduction one" and "Deduction two."
- You've tried to argue that poverty could be abolished if people were just allowed to keep more of their minimum wage.
- You've ever referred to someone as "my (insert racial or ethnic minority here) friend"
- You've ever tried to prove Jesus was a capitalist and opposed to welfare.
- You're a pro-lifer, but support the death penalty. ( LOVE this one! hahahaha)
- You think Huey Newton is a cookie.
- The only union you support is the Baseball Players, because heck, they're richer than you.
- You think you might remember laughing once as a kid.
- You once broke loose at a party and removed your neck tie.
- You call mall rent-a-cops "jack-booted thugs."
- You've ever referred to the moral fiber of something.
- You've ever uttered the phrase, "Why don't we just bomb the sons of bitches."
- You've ever said, "I can't wait to get into business school."
- You've ever called a secretary or waitress "Tootsie."
- You answer to "The Man."
- You don't think "The Simpsons" is all that funny, but you watch it because that Flanders fellow makes a lot of sense.
- You fax the FBI a list of "Commies in my Neighborhood."
- You don't let your kids watch Sesame Street because you suspect Bert and Ernie of "sexual deviance."
- You use any of these terms to describe your wife: Old ball and chain, little woman, old lady, tax credit...
- You scream "Dit-dit-ditto" while making love.
- You've argued that art has a "moral foundation set in Western values."
- When people say "Marx," you think "Groucho."
- You've ever yelled, "Hey hippie, get a haircut."
- You think Birkenstok was that radical rock concert in 1969.
- You argue that you need 300 handguns, in case a bear ever attacks your home.
- Vietnam makes a lot of sense to you.
- You point to Hootie and the Blowfish as evidence of the end of racism in America.
- You've ever said "civil liberties, schmivil schmiberties."
- You've ever said "Clean air? Looks clean to me."
- You've ever referred to Anita Hill as a "lying bitch" while attending a Bob Packwood fund-raiser.
- You spent MLK Day reading "The Bell Curve."
- You've ever called education a luxury.
- You look down through a glass ceiling and chuckle.
- You wonder if donations to the Pentagon are tax-deductable.
- You came of age in the '60s and don't remember Bob Dylan.
- You own a vehicle with an "Ollie North: American Hero" sticker.
- You're afraid of the "liberal media."
- You ever based an argument on the phrase, "Well, tradition dictates...."
- You've ever called the National Endowment for the Arts a bunch of pornographers.
- You think all artists are gay.
- You ever told a child that Oscar the Grouch "lives in a trash can because he is lazy and doesn't want to contribute to society."
- You've ever urged someone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, when they don't even have shoes.
- You confuse Lenin with Lennon.
Comfortably ignorant, riiiiiiiight. You ultra liberals and your gross generalizations. I think I've made my opinions pretty clear in this thread. If you and Chick disagree, fine. I disagree with your opinions but I won't sink to your level and call you ignorant. I'll agree to disagree.
No, you'll sink to calling me ultra-liberal and accuse me of making gross generalizations. That's "ignorant" in 4 words.
Obviously he's one of the millions who think the word ignorant means "stupid." smh lol
Actually, I understand perfectly well the difference between ignorant(implies lack of knowledge) versus stupid(implies lack of intelligence) And there you go with your gross generalizations once again. Let's just agree to disagree, okay?
See, I hate the term "reverse racism". Because there should be no such thing. Racism is racism regardless of which direction it's going in. I'm assuming the term was created because there are actually people out there that think that racism can only go one way - but its about time people realized that any race can be racist to any other race, and drop the "reverse" from it.
Guys, uncboy is just sharing his opinion that he has formed through his vast life experiences in the 19 years he's been alive.
Everyone has a bit of racism in us, especially anyone born before 1970, or we are at least aware of it and have witnessed it. I have friends who are black and tell me that when they were growing up they had the same thing from their elders as we did. My grandparents thought races should not mix at all and my friends said they grew up hearing the same things.
But please note, I did not write that above. I just copied and pasted it as I found it amusing.
You can make fun of him all you want but in just 19 years of my life, I witnessed plenty. I had COPS selling me speed, trying to get me to go off with them in their cop cars for "fun" and things no cop should EVER do to a 16 year old. I saw things I never want my kids to see. Don't think because someone is young they have not been through anything. They still have plenty to learn and plenty to see but they have had some experiences too.
See this works in the reverse too though.
If someone said "Kids lives matter" and someone else said "Yes, well adults lives matter too" there wouldn't be a contingent of people (you) that would say "Woah woah... adults lives matter? You must hate kids if that's your response to kids lives matter".
To further your point, I'll bet less than 20% of black protesters even know what they're protesting. "Hey, let's get real mad, break shit and inconvenience white people because...umm..." It's funny because blacks always talk about how they have to stick together to be heard. And the thing is, they will blindly follow black movements even when they don't have a clue as to what the movement involves. However, tell them to stop committing crimes against each other and they're not so thick then. I guess loyalty and "sticking together" only goes so far.
Cute. I know you didn't think these up. You clearly grabbed these off of some website. But let's examine.
1 - So "thug" is now a racist word? Are there no black thugs?
2 - Is it not?
3 - Why? Oprah Winfrey is a great example of how to lead yourself out of poverty. Why wouldn't anyone cite her success?
4 - I don't GAF about historical relevance. I care about the current state of affairs.
5 - I don't even know what that means.
6 - WTF is that supposed to even mean? Oh, you don't know because you just copied and pasted this list. Never mind.
7 - Oh, that's right. We're just supposed to take someone's word that Mike Brown was a "gentle giant".
8 - I know what they think is the symptom.
9 - I'm saying it if you're playing it.
10 - I've never said such but that is peculiar, no?
11 - No such thing. As if you can only be racist against blacks.
12 - Stupid.
I'd love to make fun of you for this dumbass poast but like I said, you just found that somewhere and you don't even know what half of that shit means.
She copied and pasted that from some website. I promise she doesn't have the capacity to think all of that up.
They are treated equally. That's the point. No one is buying the bullshit you and your white guilt, idiot liberal brethren are selling.
If you keep saying it, maybe someone will start believing it.
So, everything we experience before the age of 20 doesn't qualify as valid life experience?
Black lives do matter to me. The same as all other lives. Do black lives matter to everyone? Probably not. Do white lives matter to everyone? Probably not. C'mon strum, you're always talking about how you can only control yourself. Do black lives matter to you? If so, then you're good. Just like I am. And I will never give any credence to the BLM movement because as I stated, black lives do matter to me. So it's of no thought.
I've always said that's the best case scenario for our country. We are all better off when nothing gets done. Gridlock is good.
Again, please stop making fun of other poasters' intellect level. You're a top shelf idiot. Everyone on this board knows it. Seriously, stop.
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