I'd rather take him now. At this point, who's to say that 2020 gets better?
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I'd rather take him now. At this point, who's to say that 2020 gets better?
You aren't kidding about the great shooting:
44.9% from deep
59.9% from 2-pt range
86.8% from the line
That said, is there much chance he'll go anywhere but BYU?
No it isn’t. We have topics on Pierce, Tucker, Harris, Cole, etc on the front page. All guys we have or had realistic shots at landing.
This kid has zero UNC interest and why aren’t there threads on the top 26 transfers also? This is pointless.
Looking at his history, he started at BYU then transferred to Utah Valley.
His second year at BYU he only played 9 games, so presumably a redshirt year. Then sat out a year for the transfer.
Why does he have a year of eligibility left? Is it because he's grad? Why would that change anything.
I'm thinking of Terry Henderson at State who was denied a 6th year with basically the same trajectory. (Henderson was injured in his first game at State after sitting out his transfer year and then missed that whole year due to injury - but the NCAA wouldn't let him play what would have been his 4th season.)
His second year at BYU he only played 9 games, so presumably a redshirt year. Then sat out a year for the transfer.
Why does he have a year of eligibility left? Is it because he's grad? Why would that change anything.
I'm thinking of Terry Henderson at State who was denied a 6th year with basically the same trajectory. (Henderson was injured in his first game at State after sitting out his transfer year and then missed that whole year due to injury - but the NCAA wouldn't let him play what would have been his 4th season.)
I would take Harris for sure. He is a 4 year guy, that could be a glue type player like Kwill. I would love Cole, Harris, Pierce and Keeling
Plus we have 6 scholarships and at least two more opening up next year (2020 class). Can certainly afford to spend a few on long term players.
He is 30 spots above Kenny in ranking. Not sure how much that matters, but something to consider.
Kinda thought I answered that in my reply, kid has a lot of Kenny Williams in his game, rangy lock down defender that is working on his streaky jump shooting, yeah, I take him. I would not expect a ton from him as a frosh, maybe situational but not a lot, but solid 4yr guy from all I can tell.
Didn't we have a thread specifically for grad transfers at one point? I would think combining these threads into one thread would solve the problem. There wouldn't be multiple threads, but we could still talk about grad transfers.
ETA: Here's the thread I was talking about.
https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/the-grad-transfer-thread.69139/
Huh? Guys we have 4 open scholarships. Four! There's plenty of room. It'd be a shame if we can only get two more quality guys.
I think the only reason Cole hasn't committed is because we need to add more talent. For my money we need two of Utomi/Pierce/Achiuwa/Tucker/Keeling. Any two and we shore up our wing depth and Cole is probably ours as the team looks much better.
We could take three plus Cole but that's probably too many grad transfers, they wouldn't get enough playing time. I think the final spot should be used (if possible) on someone like Anthony Harris that could contribute in future seasons, as we're set to have 6-7 open scholarships for 2020 right now.
Take both. We need the grad transfers plus long term guys. Still room for Cole and someone else.
Last year, UNC recruited grad transfer Jack Whitman from William and Mary. He signed with Kansas, but left campus after only a few days. I've asked my Kansas friends what happened to him. They don't know and nothing on Google. Anybody out there know what happened to Jack Whitman?
Thanks for your informative and hospitable posts, Danika13! I didn't know that there was a ranking of grad transfers on ESPN. Most helpful! Tucker is ranked #1, Pierce#4, Keeling #6, Ironic #22 and Toolson is #27, which seems low for a conference player of the year with premier shooting statistics!
Without reading the rest of the thread, what needs to be noted here is that Tucker was originally recruited by now-Auburn Asst. Wes Flanigan (when he was HC at Little Rock), and they have an excellent relationship, and sure enough an OV has been set up for Auburn. Tucker is understandably testing the NBA waters, but if he stays in college Auburn has a very good shot at him.
It might behoove folks to remember that putting your name in the draft is not permanent until the cut-off date passes or an agent is hired. Many players (including members of our 09 championship team) tested the waters and came back.
He's not committing on 4/20. He has no set announcement date, and on a recent Instagram AMA when asked what the date will be he said "I have no idea". I'd hazard a guess that he's waiting to see if we can add a couple good guys.
....you do not need to save scholarships every year. Odds are that by this time next year someone will have a great season, that we're maybe not expecting to, and that person will put their name in the draft process. Can not say it enough but ships happen...
wouldnt he be considered a grad transfer having already graduated from an institution?
He'd still have to make it through graduate admissions which generally has university and department requirements.
We will land Cole, Precious and Tucker. I keep telling myself that at least.
This may be true, but I believe he is smart enough to know if he commits the likelihood of some good players getting onboard increases significantly.
Chuma Okeke is more than likely returning and the time-table now is right after Xmas.
They do lose their starting backcourt (unless Harper opts out of the draft), Dunbar and Spencer. Big Wiley is having thumb surgery and will likely return, as will Purifoy and the little backup PG (who abused us) as well.
They have a small but strong class coming in headlined by Okoro (a 3) So their immediate need is at SG (thus the interest in Tucker), and perhaps another PG if Harper stays in the draft.
Thanks, Gary! I've enjoyed reading your posts for several months. Very well written and informative. I am flabbergasted at the abusive comments directed toward you. I suspect that you have many silent supporters like me!
It's wasted breath for some people who do nothing but bemoan over recruiting. It doesn't matter that Roy has delivered more than anyone could ever have reasonably expected. It doesn't matter that they have no real idea what is actually taking place. It doesn't matter that Roy has a career .788 winning percentage since 1988 and knows more about coaching then they do about most anything.
Roy also has 23,951 'time-outs' on deposit for whenever he feels the need to use them.
I know....that's what scares me. We literally have to land Cole no matter what. There's no other point guards in the portal. There's a bunch of combo guards but not sure they can be fill the voids we need while playing point and trying to score with little scoring support at other guard positions based on what we return. Cole is a must, and then we must land at least 2 out of this bunch: Precious, Utomi, Pierce, Tucker
I think Blackshear would do a little more than add depth. He'd be a our best big no doubt.
Does he start over Bacot or Brooks? Possibly but not a given. More likely over Bacot I'd guess.
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