Coronavirus
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Andy Slavitt and the like we're calling to redefine 'essential worker' and go wuhan style late summer... Seemed drastic to me back then but it was a good idea in retrospect.
The US could ‘virtually eliminate’ coronavirus in weeks, ex-Obama health chief says. Here’s how.
There are still months to go before a vaccine becomes available. But one expert says there’s still time to reign in the coronavirus.
thehill.com
Andy Slavitt and the like we're calling to redefine 'essential worker' and go wuhan style late summer... Seemed drastic to me back then but it was a good idea in retrospect.
The US could ‘virtually eliminate’ coronavirus in weeks, ex-Obama health chief says. Here’s how.
There are still months to go before a vaccine becomes available. But one expert says there’s still time to reign in the coronavirus.
I'm copying and pasting the meat of that inanity for those that don't want to open the link. I wish I hadn't. His idea would essentially be the end of America. The cost to implement this plan would be something we couldn't come back from.
- Universal mask wearing. A number of states have begun mandating face masks in public, but the preventative measure has become highly politicized, with some Republican governors refusing to issue mandates and Trump supporters organizing to protest against such measures.
- Keep hot spots, including bars, restaurants, churches and transit, closed. Many states began reopening around Memorial Day weekend, against the advice of public health officials, and have since been forced to pause or backtrack on their reopening plans.
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- Prohibit interstate travel. Several states have begun requiring that travelers from other states, especially those states where the infection rate is on the rise, self-quarantine for one to two weeks upon entering the state, with thousands of dollars in fines for those who disobey.
- Prohibit travel into the country. Many other countries sealed their borders soon after the initial outbreak in Wuhan, China, and some are still restricting travel, especially from the United States. As Slavitt said, "no one will let us into their country so that shouldn’t be hard.”
- Set up hotels to allow those with symptoms to isolate at no cost. This would likely require government funding, unless hotel companies and private donors were willing to step in. It would also require a much larger coordination of infrastructure and resources than the United States has deployed up until this point, rather than the piecemeal local approach Americans have seen thus far.
- Institute a 90 percent lockdown. According to Slavitt, this would mean keeping even those who were previously classified as essential workers — truckers, farmers and health care professionals — at home. Such a strict lockdown would be unprecedented for the United States, but has been done in other countries.
Eh, that plan not only wouldn't get rid of the virus it's not all that practical. Too many people are dependent on certain kinds of services to shut it all down for eight weeks.
People have been saying it's the end of America since the start of America. Wake me up when we're absorbed by Canada.
that’s why it is hysterical to see it in print, especially from him...he’s now negative nancy.
And they've largely been correct. You're going to sit there and tell me that Americans today are as creative, steadfast, resolute, committed, hard-working, and productive as they were 75 years ago?
It's not a light switch. These things don't happen overnight. But we have eroded the American spirit - the spirit the built the best, most free, most feared, most respected nation in the history of the world. As a self-proclaimed history buff, it's shocking that you won't admit that.
We're still doing okay on this
"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ck-on-u-s-travelers-over-coronavirus-concerns"
On the 14th, 6% of the country had round 1 of the vaccine. Keep pumping out vaccines, and let it run it course. An 8 week shutdown is worse than leaving things as is. That $600 is hard to spread over that long.
Ps... i think i can finally go to disney in march. Disney is extending hours and prepping to open live shows again.
Ps... i think i can finally go to disney in march. Disney is extending hours and prepping to open live shows again.
Good to hear about disney. I'm currently scheduled for the end of May, but it depends on character interaction. It will be my kids' first time, so if they still can't run up and give the characters hugs and take pictures we are going to reschedule.
I don't know of anyone calling for a massive shutdown right now.
tarheel0910 was just saying that our half-assed approach wasn't doing anybody any good.
China showed the non-half-assed approach to be pretty effective. Their response looked creative, steadfast, resolute, committed, hard-working, and productive, but wouldn't fly here since we can't even get people to wear a mask.
The Chinese are also a one party dictatorship. If their people are told to do something they have to do so at the point of a gun.
It may be a few more months before that happens.
Its crazy that disney world can open, but not disneyland.
I believe very little about anything coming from the Chinese
If it doesn't happen by May, I might reschedule until around Christmas. I've always wanted to go around that time.
Just a suggestion, go ahead an book an alternate date. If they open up completely, you will have a hard time reserving your resort. You can always canc we l. It does t require much to do that
My cousin, now 61, was in ICU for 9 days, in Atlanta (Cumming). His wife had just a fever and was very tired- slept for 20 hours some days- but he, after about a week of dealing with it, had to finally go to the ER and they took him straight to ICU and wanted to intubate him, but he begged them not to do it. He was released from ICU on Christmas night. He was in exceptional physical condition (worked out daily and just in perfect health), but he said he was really afraid he might die and his wife and son were unable to see him. I've known people who had it, but he's the first one I knew to get hospitalized. He lost 25lbs, and is just now able to actually exert himself on any level. It's a very strange virus.
I was there for NYE one year and it was insane. Magic kingdom was full to capacity that night for the firework show. Talk about a lot of f*cking tourists
I will never understand the appeal of Disney world, even when I have kids. Why would I want to go to Orlando to wait in line all day with a bunch of tourists and spend $30 for a bottle of water that I need because the heat index is 120 degrees?
No thanks, I'll take my kids literally any place else.
No thanks, I'll take my kids literally any place else.
The lines are for the poor people.
And the food prices aren’t THAT bad. I distinctly remember getting a very solid chicken finger basket for like 20 bucks. I’ll never forget munching on those chicken fingers while extremely stoned watching that NYE firework show.
Those are the kinds of memories you pay for your kids to have.
maybe different for my experiences, but the appeal with disney is everything can be done ahead of time...the disney cruise is outrageous, i don’t recommend, but disney can be done painless...get your passes scheduled, meals whatever you wish; we did it twice, meal plan, no meal plan.
no meal plan was waaaaay better...it allows freedom due to convenience, being tired af, or weather...some mornings i wanted waffles, others an ice cream mickey chocolate bar.
@Grayhead glad you’ll get it done...looking forward to the stories.
no meal plan was waaaaay better...it allows freedom due to convenience, being tired af, or weather...some mornings i wanted waffles, others an ice cream mickey chocolate bar.
@Grayhead glad you’ll get it done...looking forward to the stories.
Info isn't just coming from "the Chinese" rather from people we know who've been in that country, from friends with relatives in that country, from American reporters or American students studying-aboard over there, etc.
We know they didn't half-ass from the outset. And now they have full attendance concerts, movies, sports, restaurants, etc. You can't trust their economic numbers but supposedly their GDP has gone up this yr... certainly looks like business-as-usual if you are out & about.
I'm not saying we could dream of doing what china did, just saying their hammer approach worked much better than our denial, down-play and "let governors figure it out" approach.
I agree. If you’re scared of a virus with a 99% survival rate, you’re over 65 years old and you don’t mind having your freedom taken away by your government, this was the way to go.
again, without knowing the long term effects, and the fact that it doesn’t gaf who you are or how you yourself can spread it, that’s reason enough for me to wear a mask, mandated or not, and get the vaccine.
i’m listening now to story of a perfectly healthy 43 yr old construction worker that thought he had a work injury(knot behind his knee), turns out it was a blood clot created from covid...he was asymptomatic so he didn’t even get tested...now he might have to have his leg amputated...wtf
i’m listening now to story of a perfectly healthy 43 yr old construction worker that thought he had a work injury(knot behind his knee), turns out it was a blood clot created from covid...he was asymptomatic so he didn’t even get tested...now he might have to have his leg amputated...wtf
There are lawns in New York City?
Fine, from my fire escape.
He's in NJ, so it's actually a landfill, not a front lawn.
I'm even more skeptical about mask working since being told that we should wear 2. Plus I would be more likely to wear one if they would open everything up.
I went all year doing my side work scoring short track racing all season no mask no regulations and it took me a year and after our racing season to catch it, I have no idea where I got it, my wife is in health care so I'm assisted brought it home.
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I know it's hard on some people but I am not really a picture of health as in I don't work out and 40 pounds over weight and eat anything that won't eat me and it's rarely healthy food.
I felt like shit and was very tired and slept 18 hours a day, but other than the being tired it wasn't much different than a bad cold.
Oh and lost taste and smell and it didn't come back till 3 weeks after being better.
well, maybe you’re lucky to this point, hopefully anyway...the people that are speaking about this are healthier than you it would seem and they are suffering long term; on blood medication, hair loss, circulation issues, etc.
i’m not telling anyone to wear a mask or telling them to live life differently...i’m just saying i’ll wear a mask to the abc store, grocery store, target, get tested, etc for weeks just to help control the spread just to get to the obx this summer.
fwiw, my banker still has not regained his sense of smell and taste is decent he says and he had it in july...he runs often, eats well, leads a rather stress free life.
Nebraska is most likely to lift all covid restrictions this weekend.
i know firsthand 25+ people (including immediate family) that have had covid, some are "healthy" and some arent, some had pre-existings, some didnt. none of them are suffering from any side affects at this point.
i know the deaths and long term problem stories are out there, but i do not personally know anyone who is still dealing with covid related issues.
i know the deaths and long term problem stories are out there, but i do not personally know anyone who is still dealing with covid related issues.
Well thank goodness you don’t personally know anyone who has died. Then it would be a real tragedy.
My neighbor died from it but admittedly had numerous other issues. A good friend tested positive but had no symptoms. That’s a as close as it’s gotten to me.
The liberal media has plotted against Donald Trump to sensationalize the severity of covid-19.
