Coronavirus
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That ladyman sounds like he/she knows what he/she is talking about. And I’m finally glad to hear someone bring up the long term psychological effects this could have on children.
Too long, I only got as far as this part, which you have wrong:
"And then, its been proven to be only transmittable by adult humans with symptoms. Not spreadable by kids or by asymptomatic adults."
Asymptomatic people do spread it, kids spread it too.
A few things
- Science evolves, the learning is fast in some ways (vaccine creation) and slow in others. Understanding of this virus is still changing.
They are just now confirming that viral load, regardless of symptoms, is a key in spreading. This seems obvious, but it is a critical thing to know since they can target treatments at viral load (rather than purely severity of symptoms, for example) to thwart spread.
I think it is fine to be skeptical, but not obtuse. Pandemics suck, illness (hospitalization-wise) is going to happen, so economic impact is going to happen, so you shouldn't downplay them from the outset.
- The messaging from CDC, WHO, etc has been pretty shitty during all this. But the CDC was handicapped by politics (orange florida man).
- The virus was not taken seriously enough from the beginning by our federal gov. There should've been centralized, organized studying of the virus, rather than leaving everything up to states, industry and universities alone without coordination. We'd have better tests and tools by now if we'd done that, rather than 450,000 dead with flooded hospitals.
Didn’t you just poast about how kids should watch the documentary about misinformation on social media manipulating people?
That was interesting. Did you notice how the vapors flow from his mouth when he had nothing on his face, and then how the vapors are minimized when ANYTHING was on his face? Now, you could argue the overall effectiveness of the masks. But, it's pretty obvious that the vapors are less abundant with masks on the face. And, those are escaping vapors. If you are also wearing a mask, how much of what he exhaled are you inhaling from him? If neither of you have masks, it's a helluva lot more, and more direct. So, you see? Masks DO WORK! They're not foolproof and perfect, but it slows the spread.
Efficacy of face mask in preventing respiratory virus transmission: A systematic review and meta-analysis
Conflicting recommendations exist related to whether masks have a protective effect on the spread of respiratory viruses.The Preferred Reporting Items for Systematic Reviews and Meta-Analysis (PRISMA) statement was consulted to report this systematic ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Is that it? No Tik-Tok videos???Efficacy of face mask in preventing respiratory virus transmission: A systematic review and meta-analysis
Conflicting recommendations exist related to whether masks have a protective effect on the spread of respiratory viruses.The Preferred Reporting Items for Systematic Reviews and Meta-Analysis (PRISMA) statement was consulted to report this systematic ...
Then I think you should wear one if you want to wear one. No one is stopping you.
Corona, False Alarm? - Chelsea Green Publishing
In Corona, False Alarm?, award-winning researchers Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi and Dr. Karina Reiss give clarity to these confusing and stressful times.
www.chelseagreen.com
You linked a 160 page book from June 2020, is there a summary somewhere?This is an interesting take on the Coronavirus pandemic by 2 accomplished authors. It questions the testing and data used to justify our current countermeasures among other things. It’s good to read information on both sides of the equation. Maybe the truth is somewhere in between.Corona, False Alarm? - Chelsea Green Publishing
In Corona, False Alarm?, award-winning researchers Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi and Dr. Karina Reiss give clarity to these confusing and stressful times.
The testing definitely sucks, the tests have sensitivity issues, and the ability for governments to roll-out reliable testing for "community surveillance" as well as for patient/clinical diagnosis has sucked.
What do they say about countermeasures which was interesting?
I decided to google that book and the authors.
A few things jumped out that kinda discredit them:
- comparisons to flu. wtf.
- claiming Sweden's response was better. Sweden's deaths per capita is way higher than nordic neighbors and their economy has sucked as badly as everybody else's.
- Claims that governments were over-counting deaths. Nuff said (see "excess mortality" across the globe).
- stuff about suicide potential. Economic impacts from the pandemic took place prior to restaurants being shut-down or "lockdowns". Based on hospitalizations, it is obvious that covid19 makes people sick, and stuff like this is going to hinder the economy whether you have partial-capacity restaurants and mask mandates or not. And so far, in many countries, suicide hasn't jumped from 2019 in the general population.
The author is a PhD Biologist. That's science. What happened to trusting science?
^So apparently that was just for a particular dorm which had a ton of positives and they're basically wanting kids to not leave their dorm rooms, to keep them out of elevators, hallways, stairways, etc. So at least this isn't something campus-wide
I still say the funniest thing I have read regarding masks is when someone said that masks are designed to keep people from spreading the virus.. they are not designed to keep people from getting the virus.
so you saw LESS vapors with the mask than without? were you only focused on his mouth ... did you see the large amount of vapors escaping from the sides and below his eyes? i dont see any difference in the AMOUNT of vapors only the direction that they went ... meaning you're screwed if you're standing beside someone as opposed to directly in front of them. which makes the morons wearing a mask in their car (or on a bus, etc) look like an even bigger moron - you're basically breathing DIRECTLY onto the person beside you.
I quit school at the age of 7 .. starting working at a wall paper plant making road signs. Recently got a job at a local furniture store selling warranties on used cars. Right now I make about $5 an hour plus all the varnish I can drink.
it's Berkeley - they havent been "people" in nearly 60 years. lets link a study done by psych ward patients next!!
libtards trust science when it benefits them to trust science and/or when the government tells them to trust science. it's a new class of Americans called "sheeple."
Really? Most are amazed the varnish is part of the deal.
Well didnt Biden say they trust truth over facts? Or was he talking about.. you know.. the thing?
could be, but it's accurate ... hard to argue with vapor amount and direction. keep on sheepin!
President Papaw is a retard. but hey, at least he's "presidential."
Aside for the letters, what's the difference between trusting science and trusting a scientist? What do you think people mean when referring to "trust science" vs "trust this scientist"?
The people who don’t understand that masks catch water particles that carry smaller particles like COVID are going after Biden for his intelligence.
I suppose life would be terribly boring without irony
I suppose life would be terribly boring without irony
So wouldnt the mask catch those smaller particles and keep them from entering someone wearing the mask?
Lol you're the last person to accuse of anyone of being a 'sheep' when you post false information on a daily basis.
Then you would have particles all over the outside of your mask to take home. And on your face, your clothes, or anywhere else. The idea is for everyone to wear a mask to catch the particles on the way out so that less of them get spread around in the first place. As much as I would like to be nice, this has been explained 50 times on this board so anybody who doesn't understand it at this point is a f*cking moron.
Ok.. so since you have the answers help with two others. Why does the basketball team sit 6 feet apart after exchanging sweat on the court? Why do you have to wear the mask into and out of the restaurant but at the table is safe?
Next time you have surgery, tell the doctor he's a sheep for wearing his mask during the operation!
"Keep on sheepin'." I like that. I will be using that in future correspondence.
