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I wonder if Covid can squeeze-in one more fall/winter with no spectators at sporting events. There won't be any at the Olympics.
 
Refusing? That's an odd way to put it. They makes it sound like they're supposed to get it. I thought people got to make their own choices concerning their health. My body, my choice, right?

I can't speak for everyone who is "refusing" the shot. But me personally, I don't feel it's necessary. That's it. That's why I'm not getting the shot. Maybe others have different reasons. But based on what I've seen, I simply don't find it necessary. And I'm just not going to put something in my body to make others feel better. It's not my job to make you feel better, safer or anything else.
This is where I'm at, too; and where I feel everyone should be at, but to each his own. I just never have felt that the vaccine should be absolutely mandatory, where Biden and his volunteer goons are going to knock on your door, pushing the vaccine on you, regardless of your age, whether you've had & recovered from COVID, and whether you have other factors that make you COVID-high-risk (other health conditions, age, etc). I defy anyone to tell me how this "everyone STFU and take the jab because we said so!" has anything to do with science or health. It doesn't. It has everything to do with testing how much they can control uppity people who think they still have some personal freedoms.

It should be each person weighing his personal situation...assess: do I believe, based on what I know from the data, from real science, from reliable sources, that I am more at risk of catching and dying from COVID? Or from some potential, rare, bad consequences of the experimental, unapproved medicine (not an FDA approved vaccine)? And if I've had and recovered from COVID, building up antibodies superior to the "vaccine" why on earth would I take the jab?

If people followed this logical comparative assessment, I think nobody under 25 would get the vaccine, and almost nobody under 40, unless they are high risk for some other reason. The way Biden and friends are pushing for this, with new rules and findings arising weekly, is crazy. Not at all how things have ever worked for past common truly helpful, rightly required vaccines.

And for grade school, high school, or college to be required to be vaccinated to attend school is evil, criminal, the opposite of science. Thankfully that BS seems to be cratering and imploding. F around with people's kids health and find out.

Parents will pull their kids, and forego the tuition, etc...and no way will these colleges risk damaging the money inflow, due the exodus driven by vax requirement. Colleges are struggling with decreasing enrollment / tuition fees meeting the ever-growing college funding needs. No way are the colleges going to jeopardize their money stream.
 
And for grade school, high school, or college to be required to be vaccinated to attend school is evil, criminal, the opposite of science. Thankfully that BS seems to be cratering and imploding. F around with people's kids health and find out.
I remember when I, and every other child, had to have measles, mumps and rubella vaccines to attend school. It was criminal! Those damned Nixon criminal haters-of-science mutherfvckers! Just trying to keep all of us sheep in the same place! I think they even made us have polio and smallpox vaccines! Somehow, Polio vanished from the Western Hemisphere.
 
I remember when I, and every other child, had to have measles, mumps and rubella vaccines to attend school. It was criminal! Those damned Nixon criminal haters-of-science mutherfvckers! Just trying to keep all of us sheep in the same place! I think they even made us have polio and smallpox vaccines! Somehow, Polio vanished from the Western Hemisphere.
You still have to do that, but I'm not sure that's an exact apples to apples comparison. This would be more like schools requiring a flu shot.
 
I remember when I, and every other child, had to have measles, mumps and rubella vaccines to attend school. It was criminal! Those damned Nixon criminal haters-of-science mutherfvckers! Just trying to keep all of us sheep in the same place! I think they even made us have polio and smallpox vaccines! Somehow, Polio vanished from the Western Hemisphere.
The exact line above what you quoted from my post clearly stated I agreed with exactly those other types of vaccines being mandatory, required for all people. And how this non-approved vaccine, for a virus not even remotely as dangerous as those other viruses, is not comparable at all.

Reading / comprehension is hard.
 
You still have to do that, but I'm not sure that's an exact apples to apples comparison. This would be more like schools requiring a flu shot.
....true, except I think the CDC is recommending children not get vaccinated for COVID, given the microscopic risk to them of COVID issues. So even less needed than if they did recommend a common flu shot. Many more kids (k-12) each year die of flu than have died from COVID.
 
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The exact line above what you quoted from my post clearly stated I agreed with exactly those other types of vaccines being mandatory, required for all people. And how this non-approved vaccine, for a virus not even remotely as dangerous as those other viruses, is not comparable at all.

Reading / comprehension is hard.
So, this is purely a political control thing?
 
You still have to do that, but I'm not sure that's an exact apples to apples comparison. This would be more like schools requiring a flu shot.
I'm not sure that Covid-19 is like the flu, nor is the vaccine like getting a flu shot.
 
I'm not sure that Covid-19 is like the flu, nor is the vaccine like getting a flu shot.
It's more like the flu than it is those other diseases you mentioned. Not sure that's really debatable. As @Heelicious mentioned, kids can't even get the shot, which would seem to indicate that the CDC either doesn't think it is as necessary as those other ones and/or they don't know if it's safe enough.
 
It's more like the flu than it is those other diseases you mentioned. Not sure that's really debatable. As @Heelicious mentioned, kids can't even get the shot, which would seem to indicate that the CDC either doesn't think it is as necessary as those other ones and/or they don't know if it's safe enough.
Yeah, it's an upper-respiratory virus.

I don't think it should be mandatory, myself. This virus is still not fully under control, though. We already know that the world's population sucks at pulling together on this thing. The longer it hangs around, keeps mutating, it will continue to be costly- in a LOT of ways!

I'm, frankly, surprised that the FDA hasn't approved them all by now.
 
This is where I'm at, too; and where I feel everyone should be at, but to each his own. I just never have felt that the vaccine should be absolutely mandatory, where Biden and his volunteer goons are going to knock on your door, pushing the vaccine on you, regardless of your age, whether you've had & recovered from COVID, and whether you have other factors that make you COVID-high-risk (other health conditions, age, etc). I defy anyone to tell me how this "everyone STFU and take the jab because we said so!" has anything to do with science or health. It doesn't. It has everything to do with testing how much they can control uppity people who think they still have some personal freedoms.

The Biden admin is putting some folks in a very precarious situation by having them go to people's houses (who the hell would sign up for this?) I assure you, that will not be received well by many, including me, my wife and my two dogs that at first glance, are ferocious and unkind to strangers coming onto my property.
 
The Biden admin is putting some folks in a very precarious situation by having them go to people's houses (who the hell would sign up for this?) I assure you, that will not be received well by many, including me, my wife and my two dogs that at first glance, are ferocious and unkind to strangers coming onto my property.
yes. There are millions out there with your sort of response, @gunslingerdick - including me, though my dog is a fluffy, docile yellow lab who might not harm someone to save his own life it seems.

I predict this volunteer door knock genius idea will soon fade away into obscurity, the way so many other Biden / KumAllah genius ideas and plans greatest hits have faded away rapidly, once they got the massive blowback from the masses, that they so richly deserve:
  • Defund the police
  • South and Central America, please send us all your illegal immigrants that want to come
  • A few of you can get together on July 4 for a bbq IF you're all vaccinated
  • We need to keep funding unemployed people through end of 2021, regardless of whether there are jobs open those people can work at
  • Moving the all-star game from largely Black business ATL to largely White business Denver was the right thing to do...
and on and on....

good times.
 
I have AFib. I didn't know it until I went for a regular Dr. appointment and my heartrate was about 180 BPM. It took them 3 days to get it under control with meds. but since then I have had no problem. My doctor thinks it came from steroids I had injected in my spine for a pinched nerve.
Was your Dr aware that you'd had a vaccine previously in life?
 
"**** around and find out" is the new scientific method

Yeah, it's an upper-respiratory virus.

I don't think it should be mandatory, myself. This virus is still not fully under control, though. We already know that the world's population sucks at pulling together on this thing. The longer it hangs around, keeps mutating, it will continue to be costly- in a LOT of ways!

I'm, frankly, surprised that the FDA hasn't approved them all by now.
 
The Biden admin is putting some folks in a very precarious situation by having them go to people's houses (who the hell would sign up for this?) I assure you, that will not be received well by many, including me, my wife and my two dogs that at first glance, are ferocious and unkind to strangers coming onto my property.
Didn't you say you had a Trump sign in your yard? I'm guessing people with Trump signs will be skipped.
 
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If we aren't going to mandate vaccines, then we should mandate honesty from people when they avoid the shot.

If you aren't going to get it, at least let other people avoid you like the plague if they have at-risk family at home.

I know two diff people who had to learn the hard way that their coworkers are anti-vaxx. One wound up sleeping in his garage for a few nites (after the coworker got sick and realized they had covid) since they have an infant and a pre-teen at home, and cuz Delta variant.
 
Even though I got the vaccine, can I still tell "progressives" that I didn't, so I don't have to interact with them?
Absolutely, good idea to maintain 6 feet generally, no matter how quick you are with your EDC in a tight space.

Gayness and socialism might be airborne though... Better keep that mask on.
 
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The Biden admin is putting some folks in a very precarious situation by having them go to people's houses (who the hell would sign up for this?) I assure you, that will not be received well by many, including me, my wife and my two dogs that at first glance, are ferocious and unkind to strangers coming onto my property.
for the benefit of those who love to post risk/risk comparisons as argument, here's a risk/reward posit.....the risk of getting punched in the face for obnoxiously intruding on someone's privacy is greater than the chance of talking someone into getting vaccinated who has already declined to do so.

Biden's legacy...door-to-door mindlessness at taxpayer's expense.
 
"**** around and find out" is the new scientific method
nah - it should be blatantly obvious...

"STFU and do what your overlords say!"
and "if you request the actual data to do risk assessment and make a decision based on factual evidence (aka science), you are a conspiracist / extremist"

... that is the new "scientific method"
 
for the benefit of those who love to post risk/risk comparisons as argument, here's a risk/reward posit.....the risk of getting punched in the face for obnoxiously intruding on someone's privacy is greater than the chance of talking someone into getting vaccinated who has already declined to do so.

Biden's legacy...door-to-door mindlessness at taxpayer's expense.

Make sure your doctor clears you for physical activity before you go starting any fights.
 
I think "making fun" of something means that "seriously" is lacking from the whole sentiment and gesture. He was jokingly making fun of it.
huh...and here I thought it was the "humor" that was lacking. I'll read it again.
 
Are you seriously making fun of someone that has a health problem?

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Hilarious. Maybe you'll get to wear them while you watch the games from your living room again this fall, and probably the winter.
 
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