Perfectly reasonable. For the record, I have not asked you or Joe Biden to care about me. I appreciate the offer but I'd rather go at it alone.
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Perfectly reasonable. For the record, I have not asked you or Joe Biden to care about me. I appreciate the offer but I'd rather go at it alone.
I can agree that a pandemic can hurt an economy, especially since we deal with the economic impact of epidemics every year, pretty much. Do you agree that an overreaction to health concerns can also hurt an economy, particularly massive overreactions?
That depends on what you define as "works". Is it 100% effective, no. Does it prevent more than a normal immune system without the vax, yes.
I'd like to see most everyone vaxxed, mainly for the reason that it will make politicians/people have to stop using that as the fall back for getting completely back to normal. As long as the vaxx rates are low, they can say "well, we need to continue pushing the vaccines to stop Covid before we can fully go back to normal". If everyone were vaxxed, they'd lose that, and we'd just have to come to accept as a country that there will be breakthrough cases, people will die from Covid, and we're just gonna have to get on with our lives.
That said, mandating the vaccine is a no-no from me. Doesn't surprise me that Biden is going that route though, he seems to be a calamity of errors recently, despite the claims to the contrary from certain poasters here.
Do they have the right to require one to vote? Talk about a woke brain pretzel.
Just send the shots out to everyone in the mail and then everybody will send something back in saying they took it. What could go wrong?
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I guess I can at least give Biden credit for trying to sneak the mandate in the back door instead of just coming out and looking like a complete dictator, although his words certainly don't make him look any better than a Trump press conference. I'm kind of happy about it in a way, because it's going to give me some interesting court cases to watch. I always enjoy controversial SC rulings and that's where this is headed.
I wonder how this might change the way companies decide to treat work from home issues. Meaning, if an employee can really work from home, is the company going to just let them continue to work from home instead of paying for weekly test? Seems like it would be easier to just let the employee work from home instead of having to spend that money and go through the hassle of testing every week. Would they just fire the employee? That's not an efficient way to run a business, but it is definitely an option.
Speaking of work from home, does anyone know if the requirement is just for employees that work in an office? Seems like work from home would be exempt, but I haven't heard anything about it.
Speaking of work from home, does anyone know if the requirement is just for employees that work in an office? Seems like work from home would be exempt, but I haven't heard anything about it.
Oh I see, now it’s about the economy. And the “kids”. Because of “long covid.”
So we’ve gone from, take the vaccines bc they’re 90-95% effective against covid to save ourselves, to, the economy will crumble if the 80-100M unvaxxed Americans won’t get the jab. Amazing logic.
Save the kids! So we’ve went from, kids aren’t at risk, to kids need to be masked fo protect adults, to now we need to be vaxxed to save the kids. There are less than 300 kids who have died in the 18 months of this pandemic. Of the 10s of millions of kids.
So shut up and get vaxxed to save the economy and the children! Get vaxxed so you don’t get fired and don’t kill my neighbors kid.
You know what you have to do to get vaxxed? Show an ID. How in the hell are all those poor underprivileged people going to get the shot if they can't get an ID? It's way too much of a burden for them to get an ID.
The economy and life in general haven't sucked since March 2020 because Gov Cooper closed gyms or because you have to wear a mask at Walmart. They've sucked because a floating thing killed 700k+ people and sent millions of survivors into the ICU.
Who said kids aren't at risk, other than trumpsters and horse-dewormer eaters?
It is a fact that non-infant kids are at less risk of immediate severe issues than old people. And pre-Delta kids didn't seem to be getting the infection as frequently as older but people. But that is different now that Delta is so much more contagious. Long-covid has been a known problem for at least a yr now, and it can effect anyone of any age.
Because if you think that’s why they’re imposing these mandates for a virus where we already have herd immunity (vaxed pop and people who’ve had it) plus a 99.9%+ survival rate, you’re crazy. That’s why.
just social distance for 15 days
Just wear a mak
Just wear two masks
Just get the vax
Just get the vax and wear a mask
Just get the vax mask your kids even if you’re at home
Just do all of the above or lose your job.
What’s next?
How many kids have died of covid? Look again bc I already told you. Less than 300.
more kids have been shot in Chicago than have died of covid in the entire nation.
so no, kids are not at risk.
and “long covid” is such a joke. Do you even know what “long covid” actually is? If you do and continue to talk about it as if that’s a reason to force a jab, you’re a moron.
98.4% survival rate, nationwide.
ETA: and, that's with all of the different variants. YMMV with each variant. It appears that the Delta variant might be more deadly, I don't know for sure.
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It’s not more deadly. The statistics prove that. Every virus has variants. Covid will never go away. Vaccinated people are spreading variants as much as non vaccinated people.
We know who is at risk. People with severe comorbidities and elderly. The vast majority of elderly people are now vaccinated. That’s good news. The fear mongering needs to end.
You have brought kids up multiple times to me. You can’t refute what I mentioned on children’s deaths with covid so it makes sense you don’t want it mentioned.
Joe Biden yesterday said and i quote, “we have to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.” Someone explain that logic to me.
If you think we’re at herd immunity you’re wrong. So what do you think the vaccines for then? Why is the medical
Community pushing for it?
I didn't bring up kid's deaths, rather I brought up long-covid and hospitalizations. So STFU regarding deaths. Are you going to tell me hospitalizations and long-covid aren't a concern for parents, and don't have an impact on life returning to normal?
Can’t wait to get an answer on what he thinks the vaccine push is “really” for. My top 5 guesses
gubment mind control
Fauci retirement fund
Make repubs esp Trump look bad
Usher in socialism
Satan
More kids have been shot in Durham than died from cigarettes. So let them smoke. Esp the ones that are dook fans
How many were smoking while they were shot?
So we’ve had 175+M Americans vaccinated, plus tens of millions of Americans that have already had the virus and have built natural immunity. Right? So that would put us conservatively in herd immunity territory.
And let’s not get this twisted here. Im not anti vaccine here, I’ve been vaccinated. The over extension of the government to get into private institutions and use the Dept of Labor to enforce fines/lay offs if you don’t get a jab, that is totalitarianism at its core.
I believe I saw it in a clip from the Stephen Colbert show that 75% of American adults have at least one shot of the vaccines
Show me the data on these hospitalizations of children that are overrunning hospitals. Explain to me what long covid is and how it develops. Explain to me how you avoid long covid. In order to avoid potentially developing “long covid” symptoms, you’d have to avoid getting covid period. Do you get a less severe case of covid if you contract it from someone that is vaccinated vs someone who isn’t? Show me that data. Because your suggestion here would surely imply that being vaccinated would cure “long covid” and keep our precious children (the least at risk group in the universe to this virus) out of hospitals. However, the fact is that you can spread and contract covid just as easily whether you’re vaccinated or not.
So tell me again. Why did you bring up children.
