Which issue are you guys arguing? Employers having the right to set standards for their employees and employees deciding whether or not to work there OR the federal government mandating that employers must set certain standards or be fined? Or both? They are different issues on which people can differ.
I don't think the president has the authority... or, he shouldn't have it, in my opinion.
On the contrary. A private organization can mandate whatever it wants. The issue is the federal government in a non science based tyrannical move is forcing private organizations to mandate them or face the consequences. $14k/per instance per employee. They also for any employee who does not get vaccinated must provide a negative test every week. Those tests aren’t cheap. If Bob doesn’t get the vaccine, who pays for the $50 weekly test, a test that by nature is moronic because what if you test negative on Monday morning and contract the virus on Monday afternoon and work the rest of the week there?
I was going to highlight your first paragraph and laud you for it, but in fact virtually the entire post is excellent.
you mean he could have easily kicked it down the road as opposed to leaving it lying in the ditch like he did?
Aren’t you one of the Dookies on DI that make fun of DSouth for the length of his posts?
Solid retort. No clue, possible I did in the past and if I did I stand by that, for nonsensical comments about hoops.
To be fair, UNC fans on this site make fun of him too.
Every pres term since W has said they'd end our presence in Afghanistan, but all postponed and put it off because it is easier politically to put it off. 'kick the can down the road'. Biden ending that occupation is super ballsy politically in my opinion, just like this vaccine mandate.
ballsy? Is that what you call it when you blame your withdrawal fiasco on the previous President who instigated a withdrawal action that in Biden's words he was only adhering to as required? There might be some balls involved, but if so they are firmly tucked between his legs.
Ballsy makes it better in your opinion? You are far left of the left. Keep defending his actions. It's a good looking for you
You still haven’t answered why you think the medical community is pushing so hard for vaccinations. I hear lots of whining about how unnecessary the vaccine is and so on so once again…why is the medical community lying?
It may well be correct, but nctransplant's point about quality journalism was that strum was getting his hard hitting statistic from a comedy show known for their liberal agenda consistent with dnc talking points. That's the sad state of our sources of "news" and "information", whether it is correct in a specific instance or not.
I don't sit around watching "news/propaganda" channels, so I couldn't cite them as a source. I just happened to see this particular monologue in a YouTube clip. My apologies for citing my source. The point was to simply share the fact that 75% of American adults have gotten at least one shot.
Look up and stop putting words in my mouth, while also changing your question.
I wish the number was that 95% had both shots (just randomly allowing 5% for actual medical reasons not to get it), but no need to apologize. To the contrary, citing is a good thing as it often provides insight to the possible agenda(s) of the publisher of the information. There are certainly plenty of sites tracking these types of statistics so it's an easy one to vet. The observation was that it's not a good thing that we are all getting information from places like YouTube. This is one of the main problems we are having and cause for all the crap and spins that are out there. Anyone seen the pictures of spoons and other metal objects sticking to you after the vax? I mean, really.
This lays it out in a nutshell, however. You knew it was "fact" because you saw it on a YouTube clip of Colbert????
I don't know that it's an absolute, incontrovertible fact, no matter where I saw, heard, or read it.
It's not, which is the point. Methodology varies, but Mayo Clinic says as of yesterday that 63.3% had at least one dose, but you knew 75% to be fact because Colbert said so.
www.mayoclinic.org
No, imo ballsy doesn't make something better. A bad decision done while being ballsy is still a bad decision.
Or, you could just acknowledge that it was the bad orange man who campaigned on, followed through on, made the decision to, and implemented the process to withdraw from Afghanistan (instead of claiming that this was all Joe).
Think I just woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Blazers and I have had some fun over on premium in the past - Andrew didn't always appreciate us doing so, lol. The absolutes of people's positions and how it guides them can drive me insane. I will freely admit to supporting many of his positions from a policy standpoint, but that doesn't stop me from thinking that the orange menace is personally a total narcissistic douche. For our country, I value policy more than personality. And with our current office holder (yes, he is my president too), I believe we got exactly what we should have expected. Both of them, like all of us, are severely flawed. We cannot and should not be blind to those faults.
Wtf are u talking about “putting words in your mouth”.
What a load of horseshit. This is the exact type of stupidity and rhetoric that makes it seem like we’re doomed to never get through this. This question has been answered 1000 times and literally 15 seconds of research would reveal the answer as well. you may not like the answer… obviously from your posts you’re in denial of a lot of facts… but just cause you don’t like the answer doesn’t mean it hasn’t been answered…because it has…this was nearly a year ago
Sensible post. I would only add that for me it’s policy vs qualifications. I don’t like trump personally. That’s for sure. There’s been several presidents I haven’t liked in that regard but still voted for. But in all fairness you do have to be a bit of a narcissistic jack ass to want to be president anyway. I recognize that. But with Trump it was more of such a flawed personality in my opinion that it affected his decision making in a negative way. As for Biden I just think he’s mentally incompetent
I can agree with the vast majority of this - especially all of them being self important. I mean really, can you imagine the PIA it would be to be president? And certainly, there were times when I felt like Trump did something just because he was pissed in some manner. Fortunately, it was usually political and very short term. I will beg to differ on the policy v. qualifications portion, however. While I would see your pitch initially (disagree, but concede one could make the argument), after four years experience of being president, other than a very, very select few, I'd say there is almost no one more "qualified" to be in that office.
"I don't know" is a big part of all of this, and it's actually refreshing to have someone say so rather than flat speculating as if they have definitive information. Without pulling them together (a simple google search will give you plenty to read), my non-doctor summation of this is that generally they are recommending getting the vax 90 days after having recovered from covid. My basic take is that they believe that the downside to getting it is so low that you should because you get additional benefits. Simple risk versus reward type thinking. Whether this is ultimately true or just best guess type stuff, I think we need more time and lab study. In the interim, one can only do what they think is best.
He said they weren’t sure how long immunity lasts from having the virus. That’s why you should go ahead and get the vaccine. That’s fauci’s answer to “why do we need to get the vaccine if we’ve already had covid” the answer timo claims we’ve never heard from fauci.
www.cdc.gov
