Can we start this up again? This goes out to the ones who really thought UNC was turning it around with a 4 game win streak beating .500 teams or worse.. How do you like Hubert now??? I will forever dislike this hire. Cant wait until he's gone. We will never be ranked again until he is gone.
Fire Hubert
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Why? Bubba is much lower on the totem pole of blame IMO. He'd be in a lose/lose situation no matter what he did. He's better off facing the ire of disgruntled fans with no power than that of the alumni and the rest of the cronies who actually wanted Hubert hired (and probably pay his checks).
Now, if he continues to be spineless and makes another nepotistic hire once Hubert's gone, then absolutely get him the f' outta here.
If Hubert had us in the top 10, no one would be complaining either. Why is Nate Oats even mentioned?
If Hubert had us in the top 10, no one would be complaining either. Why is Nate Oats even mentioned?
It was a realistic choice that would have been an upgrade. Few and stevens weren’t realistic options
What's sad is that the hires that Bubba has been allowed to make have been good hires.
Give him a little slack guys .. college bball has changed big time .. and he was brought up in a stable 3/4 year world. Besides .. it's just a game .. a diversion from the things that matter.
Well said. That's rational. Thank you.
Can you help this guy?
WV seems like a rough place to live.
If he cat recruit & land top 20 guys , he & they will win ... 3-4 year players aren't a match with top 5-10 players anymore ... maybe we need to give Porsche or tesla to top recruits to hopefully land some
I read the only ones considered were Davis, Stackhouse, Wes Miller, Coach Rob and King Rice.
So, who did Cunningham hire that was "his hire", and a good choice?
Apparently, UNC's purse strings are prepared to kill their own program by being Carolina Blue heard-heads. Cunningham seems like a yes-man to me.
I must say I agree. Well said. You are right it has changed big time, so why hire him when we probably could have gotten a proven HC to navigate the insanity that’s become the NCAA?
Oates is catching heat as well this year. Struggling with a highly touted returning squad. Very erratic, under .500 in conference.
I agree. That was not a very responsible way to go. Unless the coaches from other schools and locations all said "No, thanks!"
Being the head coach at UNC might be more trouble than it's worth to those guys!
I'm watching them lose at home to KY right now they're 14-8 and 4-5 in the SEC. @FromTheThrill How was Oates going to take UNC to the Top 10???
I think the argument is taking a proven head coach that doesn't have ties to the university vs an unproven guy that is in the "family" - at this point give me an outsider that can get us to a national title against a "carolina guy" that is going
WV is a lovely state - we are all frustrated by this team getting boat raced by decent teams, and this is an avenue to voice displeasures - coaching is bad, guard play is bad, Manek, while he carried us tonight drives me crazy that he feels he needs to shoot the ball anytime he touches it - Next year might be worse losing Manek, Bacot, Love and Black.
Well, you'd better find some alternative activities for a few years, at least.
There's been some Olympic sports hires and women's basketball. Unfortunately, no one cares about those sports.
Those people listened to Roy. Bubba was never going to be able to hire Roy's replacement, but that's not exclusive to Bubba. Any person that took the job wasn't going to have that power, because UNC is UNC. Basically the same thing in football and to a lesser extent baseball.
Because hes an actual coach
If Hubert had us in the top 10, no one would be complaining either. Why is Nate Oats even mentioned?
If you don’t like my example of Oates, fine. Point is we should have gotten a coach. Someone with experience. Instead we picked a super nice guy who is well over his head. And we were tunnel visioned with our search. A tunnel that wasn’t successful two of the last three times we went down it.
Congrats on his Olympic sports hires. I'm sure they are bringing him tons of recognition.
If the AD is just a yes-man for the coaches, then... oh well. Baddour did whatever he was told, too.
The fact is; Roy Williams was responsible for continuing to make UNC a true blue-blood program for the last 19 years. His record at UNC was pretty magnanimous. He's practically as much of an icon as Dean Smith ever was. So, we'll have to endure his choice and his influence in exchange for the greatness he brought the school and the program. As fans, we can choose to piss and moan about it, or... try and get behind the guy we have. We have absolutely no control over who gets hired or fired.
I didn't want Davis hired, either. But, he's the coach. He's going to be the coach for a few more years. The sooner people get used to it, accept it, and try to get behind him, the easier it will go for all of us.
Like I said, nobody (meaning the fans) care. You proved my point.
I was just telling you how it works at UNC. There isn't a single person on the planet that was going to overrule Roy. People blaming Bubba are blaming the wrong person.
I don't mean to sound like I BLAME Cunningham. I agree, no one was going to block RW's choice! Like I said, he kept us great for almost 19 years. This is the price we pay. We'll see how much it will cost us over the next few years.
Well joyful joyful, the fire hubert crowd gets another opportunity to enjoy from their bandwagon UNC losing another game. Fully expect them to be very vocal over the next few days, they have not been able to be so for a good while so they have extra venom toward Hubert saved up. So to let them have their joy, I am going to ask the same question I did after the string of 4 wins that preceded this game...
Is fire Hubert still a thing? LOL
Is fire Hubert still a thing? LOL
Of course Bubba is a yes man. Most ADs are. They have cushy, high-paying, do-nothing jobs. These are all people who have never done anything but be bureaucratic yes men. They can't run businesses. They've never brought a product to market. They've never met a payroll. What do people expect from them? They don't really know how to DO anything. They're bureaucrats who have been rewarded for WHO they know, not WHAT they know.
Bubba was almost single handedly responsible for us not getting hammered by the NCAA. I'd say he's done alright.
Hubert is a great man. A great ambassador for UNC. A true Tar Heel. He would be the ideal person to lead us in those ways. I hope he succeeds. I want him to succeed.
I think there is a snowballs chance is . . . He will.
I figure he has five years. Doherty had a temper, otherwise he would have gotten a longer leash. And unless wes blows up, there is no Roy equivalent waiting
I agree with all of that. All good things come to an end. There's a lot of uncertainty right now.
There's no automatic/perfect hire for this kind of thing. For all we know, all of these outside-the-family contenders had no interest in coming to UNC. People like Mark Few were pipe dreams. That guy is not leaving Gonzaga! Nate Oats is hardly some kind of proven ringer.
And, Matt Doherty was the darling of UNC Land after his first season. He won ACC COY, and all kinds of accolades. You know what? I liked having Matt Doherty as coach. As a fan, I enjoyed his presence. But... the players didn't like him. Roy came home. We were very fortunate.
We don't have a coach like Roy Williams now!
And there is no guarantee that a "experienced" guy works out better. Louisville is experiencing that now. Crean and Miller were suppose to be that at IU, poor results.
Roy was mentored by Dean, he was weened to step in with NO head coaching experience at blueblood Kansas, by his legendary mentor who entered the same way from assistant to the head seat at a powerhouse program. I think that is the method that he saw as the best route. From his first hand experiences, I can see why he thought so.
Are you an AD? Do you have any real understanding of the responsibility of being an AD for a major program (or even a minor program). Yet you are expert on how the UNC AD is supposed to do his job?
You don't have to answer that, we all know, you do not have a clue about how easy or difficult being the UNC AD is, you simply don't know (does not seem to stop you from talking like you know but we all know you have no clue what it is to be the AD). Hey, I know, you don't like me saying that but I told facts, didn't I? More facts, I don't know either, do you really think we have anyone on this board that outside of their own minds would be a better AD than Bubba? But hey, you keep on doing you and I will keep on laughing! LOL
The sooner people get used to the fact they're are things much more important than college athletics the better off we'll all be. Although it does have it's place as long as it's all kept in perspective, GO HEELS !
And, college basketball is a much different landscape now than it was 30+ years ago, or even 10 years ago. I would NOT want that job at UNC. Any of these places where the fan base is hard to please? Forget about it. You've got to deal with the kids... and THEIR parents, pleasing them, the school, pleasing the fans, the recruits, dealing with the transfer portal, NIL.
The whole landscape has changed, big time. Places like Kansas and KY are lucky. Their coaches aren't too old... yet!
Scheyer may struggle worse than Hubert for all we know.
I didn't say I knew how to do his job or that he didn't know how to do his job. I said that he and ADs in general are bureaucratic yes men. Can you read, bro?
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