I ventured over to the dook site and sure enough they are laughing at that thread. I probably should have waited until I got home to do that. It's going to be a while before I can shower off.
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Easily one of my Top 5 favorite Tar Heels, regardless of sport. Easily. He's in my pantheon.
This confuses me. Don't ducks use their webbed feet and not their wings to swim?
Really cool to see on Twitter the huge crowd at the Dean Dome to welcome the team home.
So, this one time, I combined meth and heroine and chased it with a 40 oz of O.E. while standing on the shoulders of a chimp riding a unicycle while juggling.
Can you believe that? It's as believable as the end of last night's game. When Marcus hit the shot, my boys and I went bananas. Just minutes earlier, my 9 year old thought we had no chance. I told him, "We're still in this game. Something big is gonna happen." And the last 2:30 of the game unfolded. After Marcus' shot, I saw there was 4.7 seconds left and I got down on my knee and looked my kids both in the eye and said, "You have to be ok with it if Nova hits a shot." They were jumping up and down during the timeout because of the excitement. But I made them look at me and tell me they'd be ok. Then I stood up and even though I was muttering to myself "not like this,...not like this,...not like this", I clearly envisioned it happening just like it did. And I made peace with it before the shot went up. For a millisecond, the shot looked long. Obviously, it was not. My boys cried but only for a minute. My 4 year old said he was tired and went on upstairs and got in the bed. My 9 year old sat with me for about 10 minutes. The TV was still on, but I don't think either of us were actually watching it. We were just kind of staring off into the distance in disbelief. We didn't say a word to each other as we sat there. Then, I stood up, cut the TV off and hugged my son and told him how much fun it was watching with him and his brother this season. And I also said, "Don't sweat it, buddy. Next year's our year." I went ahead and went to bed then and fell asleep pretty quickly.
As I woke up today, I'm sad for Marcus, Brice and Joel. But overall, I feel ok. I've always said that getting to the FF is the goal and then anything on top of that is gravy. We won the ACC regular season, the ACC tournament and made the Final Four. That's a hell of a season. I'm ok. I really am. Well, sort of.
In retrospect, I was going to be a little down today anyway. The season was over either way and I knew the next time my boys and I would have this time together, they'd be a year older. They'd be taller. They'd be different than they are today. My 4 year old will probably be tall enough to dunk on the indoor goal we have downstairs like his older brother. That's our past time. Every game (well, maybe not every game but certainly most games), the boys and I (and sometimes the wife) gather in the basement mancave for the Heels game. The boys play ball on the indoor hoop for much of the first half. At commercial breaks, I join in and throw oops to my older son and run some give-and-gos with my younger son. They love it. I love it. It's as much a part of our routine as anything else we do. I'll miss that until next season. We'll have the summer - going to the river, fishing, kayaking, we'll do vacations at the beach and swim team. And then we'll have Saturdays in the fall watching the Heels football team. Both sons will have soccer games. School will start a new year. So there will be no shortage of time spent with my boys. But our routine - we would set our weeks up by looking at the schedule and the boys would get excited for late game tips because I allow them to stay up and watch even on school nights - I'll miss that. This season was special, not only for the team, but for our family. My 4 year old can name every player on the team and tell you what each one does well. And he'll also tell you why I get frustrated with each guy. We had come to really know this team. And yeah, we'll develop a similar love for future teams and we'll hopefully have that time together in the mancave watching games. But as we saw last night, nothing is guaranteed. And while I'm sad we didn't win last night and I'm sad for my boys that put so much time and love into watching the team this year and then it ending the way it did, I'm mostly sad that another season of my sons' lives have passed. And I'll only get a few more of these before they're doing their own thing, watching with their friends, chasing girls or simply lose interest. The Heels basketball program will always be there. But I'm on borrowed time with my boys. The end of the season underscores that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah,...tl;dr. I know. But I wrote that for me - not really any of y'all.
Go Heels.
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Can you believe that? It's as believable as the end of last night's game. When Marcus hit the shot, my boys and I went bananas. Just minutes earlier, my 9 year old thought we had no chance. I told him, "We're still in this game. Something big is gonna happen." And the last 2:30 of the game unfolded. After Marcus' shot, I saw there was 4.7 seconds left and I got down on my knee and looked my kids both in the eye and said, "You have to be ok with it if Nova hits a shot." They were jumping up and down during the timeout because of the excitement. But I made them look at me and tell me they'd be ok. Then I stood up and even though I was muttering to myself "not like this,...not like this,...not like this", I clearly envisioned it happening just like it did. And I made peace with it before the shot went up. For a millisecond, the shot looked long. Obviously, it was not. My boys cried but only for a minute. My 4 year old said he was tired and went on upstairs and got in the bed. My 9 year old sat with me for about 10 minutes. The TV was still on, but I don't think either of us were actually watching it. We were just kind of staring off into the distance in disbelief. We didn't say a word to each other as we sat there. Then, I stood up, cut the TV off and hugged my son and told him how much fun it was watching with him and his brother this season. And I also said, "Don't sweat it, buddy. Next year's our year." I went ahead and went to bed then and fell asleep pretty quickly.
As I woke up today, I'm sad for Marcus, Brice and Joel. But overall, I feel ok. I've always said that getting to the FF is the goal and then anything on top of that is gravy. We won the ACC regular season, the ACC tournament and made the Final Four. That's a hell of a season. I'm ok. I really am. Well, sort of.
In retrospect, I was going to be a little down today anyway. The season was over either way and I knew the next time my boys and I would have this time together, they'd be a year older. They'd be taller. They'd be different than they are today. My 4 year old will probably be tall enough to dunk on the indoor goal we have downstairs like his older brother. That's our past time. Every game (well, maybe not every game but certainly most games), the boys and I (and sometimes the wife) gather in the basement mancave for the Heels game. The boys play ball on the indoor hoop for much of the first half. At commercial breaks, I join in and throw oops to my older son and run some give-and-gos with my younger son. They love it. I love it. It's as much a part of our routine as anything else we do. I'll miss that until next season. We'll have the summer - going to the river, fishing, kayaking, we'll do vacations at the beach and swim team. And then we'll have Saturdays in the fall watching the Heels football team. Both sons will have soccer games. School will start a new year. So there will be no shortage of time spent with my boys. But our routine - we would set our weeks up by looking at the schedule and the boys would get excited for late game tips because I allow them to stay up and watch even on school nights - I'll miss that. This season was special, not only for the team, but for our family. My 4 year old can name every player on the team and tell you what each one does well. And he'll also tell you why I get frustrated with each guy. We had come to really know this team. And yeah, we'll develop a similar love for future teams and we'll hopefully have that time together in the mancave watching games. But as we saw last night, nothing is guaranteed. And while I'm sad we didn't win last night and I'm sad for my boys that put so much time and love into watching the team this year and then it ending the way it did, I'm mostly sad that another season of my sons' lives have passed. And I'll only get a few more of these before they're doing their own thing, watching with their friends, chasing girls or simply lose interest. The Heels basketball program will always be there. But I'm on borrowed time with my boys. The end of the season underscores that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah,...tl;dr. I know. But I wrote that for me - not really any of y'all.
Go Heels.
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I got a good laugh out of some of it. A lot of them are basically saying the same thing you and others on that board are saying so it may be a little repetitive. It's under the "favorite THR quotes" thread.
Aside from being 29 years old and having a penis, yes.
Thank you for that. Seriously.
This line qualifies for a nomination for post of the year. After that I feel asleep when you went all dsouth on me.
I still feel lousy. This day needs to end.
Well, the officiating thread got locked up. I was getting some good laughs out of that. I'm sure something similar will pop up later.
when did 58 become such a knucklehead? I never knew him to be a Key disciple.
For me, Radar breaks into:
1) The "your" not a real fan contingency (Archer's Tribe)
2) The angry at the world contingency (Key's Tribe)
3) The I'm smarter than you contingency (G7s Tribe)
I didn't realize 58 had any tribal allegiances, but apparently he is Key's medicine man.
Radar has turned into Animal Farm and we are Boxer and the pigs have taken over. Time to move on from that place.
For me, Radar breaks into:
1) The "your" not a real fan contingency (Archer's Tribe)
2) The angry at the world contingency (Key's Tribe)
3) The I'm smarter than you contingency (G7s Tribe)
I didn't realize 58 had any tribal allegiances, but apparently he is Key's medicine man.
Radar has turned into Animal Farm and we are Boxer and the pigs have taken over. Time to move on from that place.
If we're Boxer, I'm glad we got out before we were shipped off to the glue factory.
There's a thread about Villanova playing tackle and us playing touch. It's not any better.
Welp, there's my sojourn over to Radar for the quarter. See you in July.
which threads?....other than a soft troll i did under the apologize thread, shoutout to @BillyL, i haven't had the stomach for it.
I haven't been watching the Heels for as long as you guys obviously, but I what I can say is, I'm certain I wouldn't be this invested in North Carolina if it weren't for Marcus Paige.
Following a College team from 4000 miles away seems trivial, but Marcus - in particular - really made it seem important. If it weren't for him, I probably wouldn't have the chance to feel this bummed out today. And in a weird way I'm very thankful for that.
I think we can be pretty good next year. Obviously losing Marcus and Brice will hurt. But I'll give g7 a shout out here by saying, this is now Joel Berry's team. We will go as far next year as Berry takes us. Of course he'll need help from Jackson, Hicks and Meeks. But next year is about Berry. And I can say with confidence that Berry has shown the chops to take and make big shots and direct the team. I think we might have seen more from Berry this year had Marcus not been around. I think Roy always thought about Marcus first (as he should have) and I think Berry even backed off at times to defer to Marcus. But next year, it's Berry's team.
Starters:
PG - Berry (JR)
SG - Pinson (JR)
SF - Jackson (JR)
PF - Hicks (SR)
C - Meeks (SR)
How many other teams can start 3 juniors and 2 seniors? Not many. And these guys aren't just experienced, they're as experienced as any player can be. No stage will be too big for any of them. Berry will be the engine. And I imagine Hicks and Jackson will be featured. Hicks has got to learn how to play aggressive D without fouling. If he learns that this summer like Brice learned that last summer, he could be due for a big year. Not Brice Johnson big, but a big year nonetheless. I could see Hicks averaging 15 and 8 next year. Jackson's first step is lethal. Roy will have to find a way to incorporate Jackson's ability to drive a little better next year. And if he can hit the 3 ball all season like he's shown at the end of the past 2 seasons, then I could see Jackson averaging 15-17 ppg. If his shooting doesn't remain consistent, then maybe we only count on 12-13 ppg from Justin. Meeks will be Meeks. I think we should expect another up and down year from Kennedy. But hopefully, more up than down. If we can get 10 and 7 from KM next year, that might be enough. And then there's Pinson. I'm sure Theo will work on his shot and we'll need him to score some next year. But if I'm Roy, I work with Pinson to help him become one of the best defenders the ACC has ever seen. He can be a terror in the open court and he's the best passer with the best vision on the team. He also should work on his handle so maybe we can move Joel off the ball some to get him some open looks.
Bench:
PG - Nate (SR)
SG - Williams (SO)
PG/SG - Woods (FR)
SG/SF - Robinson (FR)
PF - Maye (SO)
PF/C - Bradley (FR)
We'll go 10-11 deep again next year with quality players. I don't know about y'all, but I have a feeling that Seventh Woods is going to be special. Maybe not next year. But Seventh is going to be a headache for the rest of the ACC and the source of some fun highlights. Even as a freshman, I think his speed and driving ability will be a nice boost for our team. Nate will be steady as he has been his whole career. I expect him to be a leader next year. Not sure what to expect out of Kenny, Luke, BRob and Bradley. If Williams finds his stroke, we'll be in great shape. If Luke makes a big jump, that will help too. I really like Bradley and I think he's up for the challenge that he'll see next year. We're going to need maybe as much as 15-20 mpg from him next year. I like his style - fundamental. Not a lot of wasted movement. And I like his demeanor. He seems grounded.
If everything falls right into place for us, we could make a FF run next year. But a more realistic expectation for this group would be topping out in the Elite Eight. UK and duke will have their loaded freshman classes. But I like our guys. I go into next year expecting a split with duke like always and as good of a chance to win the ACC as anyone else.
Starters:
PG - Berry (JR)
SG - Pinson (JR)
SF - Jackson (JR)
PF - Hicks (SR)
C - Meeks (SR)
How many other teams can start 3 juniors and 2 seniors? Not many. And these guys aren't just experienced, they're as experienced as any player can be. No stage will be too big for any of them. Berry will be the engine. And I imagine Hicks and Jackson will be featured. Hicks has got to learn how to play aggressive D without fouling. If he learns that this summer like Brice learned that last summer, he could be due for a big year. Not Brice Johnson big, but a big year nonetheless. I could see Hicks averaging 15 and 8 next year. Jackson's first step is lethal. Roy will have to find a way to incorporate Jackson's ability to drive a little better next year. And if he can hit the 3 ball all season like he's shown at the end of the past 2 seasons, then I could see Jackson averaging 15-17 ppg. If his shooting doesn't remain consistent, then maybe we only count on 12-13 ppg from Justin. Meeks will be Meeks. I think we should expect another up and down year from Kennedy. But hopefully, more up than down. If we can get 10 and 7 from KM next year, that might be enough. And then there's Pinson. I'm sure Theo will work on his shot and we'll need him to score some next year. But if I'm Roy, I work with Pinson to help him become one of the best defenders the ACC has ever seen. He can be a terror in the open court and he's the best passer with the best vision on the team. He also should work on his handle so maybe we can move Joel off the ball some to get him some open looks.
Bench:
PG - Nate (SR)
SG - Williams (SO)
PG/SG - Woods (FR)
SG/SF - Robinson (FR)
PF - Maye (SO)
PF/C - Bradley (FR)
We'll go 10-11 deep again next year with quality players. I don't know about y'all, but I have a feeling that Seventh Woods is going to be special. Maybe not next year. But Seventh is going to be a headache for the rest of the ACC and the source of some fun highlights. Even as a freshman, I think his speed and driving ability will be a nice boost for our team. Nate will be steady as he has been his whole career. I expect him to be a leader next year. Not sure what to expect out of Kenny, Luke, BRob and Bradley. If Williams finds his stroke, we'll be in great shape. If Luke makes a big jump, that will help too. I really like Bradley and I think he's up for the challenge that he'll see next year. We're going to need maybe as much as 15-20 mpg from him next year. I like his style - fundamental. Not a lot of wasted movement. And I like his demeanor. He seems grounded.
If everything falls right into place for us, we could make a FF run next year. But a more realistic expectation for this group would be topping out in the Elite Eight. UK and duke will have their loaded freshman classes. But I like our guys. I go into next year expecting a split with duke like always and as good of a chance to win the ACC as anyone else.
Don't be surprised to see Williams start next year. He's already an above average defender and if he can get his shot to start falling then he's got the potential to be really good. I like Pinson, but I think that Williams has more upside. Just a gut feeling. Either way I agree with you about the elite eight ceiling.
Williams might find his shot and I agree, he showed some defensive ability. But you're talking about Roy here. You know Roy prefers guys that have been around the block over the younger fellows. I can't see him starting Williams. And unless Williams becomes unconscious shooting the ball, I would prefer Pinson. Pinson has earned it. He's a spectacular athlete that didn't really get unleashed this year. And as I stated above, his passing is magical. He sees things that most PGs don't. And he usually executes the pass well too. His shot is broken and needs major work. But I don't think we need him to shoot much. Let Joel, JJ and Williams do the shooting. Pinson is in to do just about everything else.
It's going to be hardest to replace Brice Johnson. Maybe Isaiah can emerge. I'd love to have that go-to big man again (Zeller, Hansbrough, May).
If everyone stays, we could have an encore performance.
I feel pretty good about that. Lacking some frontcourt depth but otherwise really solid, experienced lineup, with good or potentially good backups.
Of course that's barring any unexpected departures.
True, but he's got a special place in his heart for good defenders as well. I just haven't seen enough improvement in Pinson's game to write him down in ink as a starter. I might pencil him in, but I don't think it's a sure thing. In his defense, he hasn't had an injury free off season to develop as much, so he could take a huge leap this summer. Either way I think UNC can be a top 10 team next year.
I was told to come over here from there. Not sure if I'm really welcome here either though. lol.
Thanks for posting that. Enjoy those moments while you can. My kids are 16 and 21, and while neither were huge sports fans (despite my best efforts), I did get a few special moments like that with them years ago. Man, it will move by so quickly. Cherish the time.
I swore to myself that I would avoid all sports tv, radio, newspaper, websites today because I just don't to ever see that "damn" shot again. But then I go out to lunch with my manager and a few coworkers and of course the bar & grill has tv's all over the damn place showing espn and 8,000 replays of that "damn" shot. To top it off, my manager is a Kansas alum - who while he won't say it out loud - hates Roy and is glad as hell that Carolina lost. The other dudes didn't even watch the game and don't really care about basketball, but kept going on and on about "oh my god, look at THAT shot". It's so amazing.... blah, blah, blah.
All I could think about doing...
All I could think about doing...
Of course you're welcome here. You have a long history of rational, thoughtful posts that are supported by specific examples. You're basically the anti-Radar.
Ok I subbed in for you there, but I'm out for the night. One of you other guys will have to pick this up.
You're welcome here even if you are the sneaky duke fan that I think you are. You don't seem to insult people who disagree with you, so have at it.
5 star alert. paging @gunslingerdick @Raising Heel @heelmanwilm @gteeitup @Hark_The_Sound_2010 @UNC '92 am I missing anyone?
Showenuff and DukieJay have come out of protection to try to talk shit on the Nova board.
https://villanova.forums.rivals.com...-youre-our-only-hope.31341/page-4#post-519123
Showenuff and DukieJay have come out of protection to try to talk shit on the Nova board.
https://villanova.forums.rivals.com...-youre-our-only-hope.31341/page-4#post-519123
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