Despite the angry mob of "protestors" that were stealing cheesecakes, I'm sure they would have been happy to pay for the hot dogs.
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Despite the angry mob of "protestors" that were stealing cheesecakes, I'm sure they would have been happy to pay for the hot dogs.
I'm all for them not getting things done for the most part. But they have made it impossible to do normal things like fund the defense department among other things. A government shutdown is almost guaranteed and while that sounds fun and makes for good TV, it's not good after a certain amount of time. You need to be able to accomplish normal business. I'm perfectly fine with not adding anything new, though.
I get what you are saying, but this rules package will hurt republicans in the long run. That's the smarter play I think. There are already people saying they won't vote for it. And making them fight for the past few days isn't a bad idea.
awwwwww Nancy is mad cause maga is dead and I’m pissing on it’s grave. Just wait dick, next pres election being associated with maga will be the kod for any repub candidate. They gonna run from any association with the orange turd like rats from a sinking ship.
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Let's go back to maybe 7th grade civics class. The R's aren't passing a bill as anything has to still go through D controlled Senate and get signed by magic pen Joe. Their only real job is to gum things up over the next two years so the pendulum will stop swinging vigorously to the left. Any sprinkles on top of that are just tasty treats. Perhaps this will help. . . .
Sure thing. Big Dick Ron was created by Big Dick Don. He’s MAGA Jr and he’s the overwhelming favorite to be the next President…and he hasn’t even announced.
MAGA just held the House hostage until McCarthy caved to its demands.
But yeah, I’m sure it’s over. Good call.
"One might expect that, as a member of Congress, you would have a passing familiarity with the laws of our country. It’s possible, though, that laws governing intellectual property are a little too arcane and insufficiently populist for you to really have spent much time on. We’re writing because we think an actual lawmaker should be making laws not breaking laws, especially those embodied in the constitution by the founding fathers."
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this is no doubt the worst president ever....
Convince me that I'm wrong.
He wants to degrade one rich person by completely fvcking over thousands and thousands of responsible people who aren't getting a completely undeserved break. And he has an attitude about it.
Convince me that I'm wrong.
He wants to degrade one rich person by completely fvcking over thousands and thousands of responsible people who aren't getting a completely undeserved break. And he has an attitude about it.
Oh, brother.
As one of the many who has paid off his student loans, I think the forgiveness of those who still owe is a very liberal and unpopular tactic. But to suggest it makes him the worst president ever is completely idiotic. It sounds like bitterness from someone whose hero is going down in history as we speak as one of the absolute worst U.S. Presidents ever.
You sound like you are in favor of doing away with Congress all together.
I don't think he cares if they are all together or not. Some of them don't even show up in person.
I've said for years that Congress should write bills and the gen population should vote on everything via referendum. So not get rid of them, just neuter them significantly.
I'm guessing you couldn't find a good pic of FDR.
I was gonna make a polio joke but still feels like too soon.
DOJ taps Trump-appointed attorney to investigate classified documents found at Biden think tank
Trump-appointed U.S. attorney John Lausch will handle the DOJ's investigation into classified documents found at a pro-Biden think tank, Fox News has learned.
Can't wait for the lib spin on this one. At least as president Trump had the power to declassify, Biden as VP, not so much.
This would be horrible. Much of "the gen population" isn't knowledgeable or qualified to vote when they step into the booth or seal an envelope for electing president or other candidate besides looking for the R or D next to their name. How on earth could they be trusted to be informed enough to develop a vote on specific legislation through referendum? The last thing we need is to govern through popularity contests and which way the wind is blowing. We already have enough of that with the messaging developed through focus groups.
I came here to mention this little problem and read all the outrage expressed here about the crimes Joe had committed. I mean, if it applied to the orangeman, it should be doubled for our actual sitting president who had no authority as VP to declassify, correct? Call me shocked that the usual suspects aren't pontificating accordingly.DOJ taps Trump-appointed attorney to investigate classified documents found at Biden think tank
Trump-appointed U.S. attorney John Lausch will handle the DOJ's investigation into classified documents found at a pro-Biden think tank, Fox News has learned.www.foxnews.com
Can't wait for the lib spin on this one. At least as president Trump had the power to declassify, Biden as VP, not so much.
It would weed out the less engaged citizens. The people you're talking about wouldn't show up to vote.
The DOJ worked with Trump for months behind the scenes to recover the classified documents. It wasn’t leaked or politicized. It was only when someone inside Mar-a-lago reported Trump hadn’t returned all the documents did things escalate. Hence the raid. Had he just turned everything over or better secured the documents, we would have never known.
The only thing we know about Biden is that he had documents he shouldn’t have. Regardless of who discovered it, he fully complied and turned them over.
I keep saying this is like the NCAA. You can make a mistake but you’d better not lie to them or they will come down hard. Same with the Fed’s. Classified documents are often mishandled. It’s usually a slap on the wrist so long as it’s not nefarious.
I will say Biden absolutely looks like a total dumb ass when he spiked the football after the raid. While the raid was justified, he damned himself by saying something to the effect of ‘what fool would have classified documents at home’ while he knew he had just turned over similar documents the prior year. While the two instances are very different, public perception won’t care too much. Reason #7,827 Biden is a terrible politician.
Also, neither will sniff jail time.
They don't have to. All of the many problems that have been discussed with the last couple of elections regarding mail-in voting, failure to clear the voting records, etc. would be exponentially multiplied across multiple issues. The last thing that is needed is to give the "grass roots" voting machine more power to directly influence laws. People can't even tell us basic things about how our system works and so forth. Why would we empower them to vote on individual laws that they wouldn't read and many wouldn't even understand? For example, remember a certain law in Florida that specifically said that certain topics were not to be taught/discussed in school until it was age appropriate and never mentioned certain words, yet it was widely and inaccurately publicized as the Don't Say Gay bill? You really think the average person on the street had read the bill and knew it made absolutely no such reference?
These are no longer the times of the truly invested showing up on election day. Failing to recognize that is a major part of the R's and particularly conservatives' challenges going forward.
The big problem with that whole analysis is we, the public, have no idea if anything Trump had was classified or not, and we have no reason to trust the system, certainly not the DOJ and FBI who have become more of a criminal operation than legit law enforcement. Nor the judicial system frankly minus some decent judges here and there and perhaps the Supreme Court.
For illustration, does anyone actually believe the leaked laughable reports that Trump was holding key, nuclear secrets and classified intel related to nukes? No reasonable person believed that, and of course, we now know it was BS.
My guess is there were no legit classified docs, just formerly classified but declassified and nothing serious whatsoever. It's all political to try to keep Trump off the ballot and so all illegal as well.
It shouldn't be surprising what the left will believe.
Well, of course, they are totally different situations. Last I heard, we were being told that the former president had the nuclear codes that he was going to give to his good buddy in a certain country. They want to always skip over the part where all of those kinds of things are pure speculation from unnamed sources and that there is a very good argument that he was entitled to have any documents that he had the power to declassify regardless of what was stamped on an empty folder. Our current president had his documents from his time as VP and had no such authority. I am sure we will be told it was only the WH recipe for tuna casserole or something.
In all seriousness, they are different situations, but we will never know the truth about either. All I am asking for is a little consistency regarding the outrage towards our former pres versus the failure to even express opinions about our former VP. Either taking and keeping secret/classified doc's is bad or it isn't.
Not really. There is no way to determine if the evidence gathered is real or not, especially after the DOJ appeal shut down an examination of the seized docs to independently determine what they were, what was taken, etc,...
No one should take the DOJ's word for it. If they prosecute, they may well just plant evidence. They have morphed into a brazenly criminal organization.
I suspect someone like you will always leans toward conspiracy.
Consider their recent track record. Why would anyone expect them to act differently?
Because the basic principle of having classified documents when you are not supposed to have them is the same. And, of course, there is the basic difference that Joe could never have properly had classified documents after leaving office whereas narcissist could have waived his magic wand and made classified documents non classified.
Had Trump turned them all over and not lied, we would never have known. End of story.
And you are wrong about the imaginary Jedi mind trick about declassification. Otherwise, Obama could simply say he declassified the stuff Joe took when he left office.
It is quite common for ex-presidents to negotiate what and when docs are turned over. The disparate treatment of Trump compared to Obama, for example, shows the NARA acted in a partisan and so illegitimate manner.
However, the VP does not get to do that. Biden storing SCI docs in an unsecured location is far worse than anything Trump did because it is not clear Trump did anything wrong at all. Certainly, the location was secure whereas Biden's location was not.
Moreover, we still do not know if anything Trump had was classified or not. Nor were they SCI docs, which are more sensitive than merely Top Secret.
Right. To assume they acted in good faith with Trump as they have with all former Presidents is sticking your head in the sand.
DOJ taps Trump-appointed attorney to investigate classified documents found at Biden think tank
Trump-appointed U.S. attorney John Lausch will handle the DOJ's investigation into classified documents found at a pro-Biden think tank, Fox News has learned.
Can't wait for the lib spin on this one. At least as president Trump had the power to declassify, Biden as VP, not so much.
My God, you still believe that line of crap? Trump didn't have the power to declassify anything. Nor were Biden's documents in this case being requested or subject to any inquiry.
But yeah sure, keep making excuses without doing the slightest amount of digging. Fox news, it's like catnip for morons.
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