The tax cuts were a mistake. You never cut taxes when the economy is doing well like he did. You save that to use when you're in a recession and we are several years overdue for one.
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Where exactly have you been since the tax cuts went into effect?
That must have hurt CNN to write. On a further note with regards to the economy.
U.S. creates 263,000 jobs in April, unemployment falls to 3.6%
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u...-in-april-unemployment-falls-to-36-2019-05-03
Now, I have my own issues with how the economy is perceived, but this sounds pretty good for Trump.
The economy was doing well? On what planet? Of course, you should never attempt to help out the people. Just wait until the corporations get themselves into trouble again and to hell with everyone else.
Why do you think we are several years overdue for a recession? I haven't heard anyone else say that. Slowdown maybe, but not a recession. Several years would indicate the Obama years as well.
Maybe they have some new "meds" he's testing at the General Store. Hope management doesn't find out.
By the middle of this year we will be in the longest running untick in the economy in a long, long time. Do you think this can go on forever?
Obama was president during a lot longer part of this uptick than Trump. It started back in 2010
Yeah, that 1.5% annual uptick. What an economic genius.
If this economy continues through Trump's second term does Obama still get credit?
Did Matt D. get credit for Roy's 2005 Natty?
Did Matt D. get credit for Roy's 2005 Natty?
No. I'm following the sage advice I got on this board. Never trust a poll, especially if it comes from that liberal, fake news, bastion CNN. Should I ignore that advice? Also, why are you making personal attacks at me?
No it can't continue forever, but there is a difference between a slowdown and/or a dip vs a recession. Are you saying the only reason we are overdue for a recession is because there hasn't been a recession?
I prefer to give neither one credit.
I somewhat agree, but that's not how history see's it. Trump has to get credit for the tax relief and deregulation that has spurred growth.
You should never trust a favorable poll that is coming from a favorable news site. I wouldn't trust a Trump positive poll from Breitbart.
Well, considering the spurt in growth coincides with the lowering of corporate taxes, which any economist would have told you it would...
I know Presidents will get credit /blame for the economy. I just think their actual impact is largely overstated.
I'm confused. Are you saying CNN is a favorable news site? I was specifically told not to trust them when a favorable poll came out the other day.
I think there are things they can do to hurt or help the economy, but I agree with this to a certain extent. I think they get more praise or condemnation than they deseve.
It depends on what they're reporting on. They have an agenda, just like Breitbart does. Of course, you should take all polls with a grain of salt, it's just that some you should take with mounds of salt.
Again, I agree partially but I also believe tax relief and deregulation played a large role. Obama was stifling growth through regulation. Look at our manufacturing growth for example.
So the person the other day was wrong when they immediately dismissed the CNN poll? Should I be skeptical about both CNN polls that were favorable to Trump or just the ones that aren't favorable?
I'm willing to bet CNN was not thrilled about publishing this poll.
I'm just trying to figure out if I should believe them. They published a biased poll that made Trump look good yesterday. Why should I believe this one?
Don't worry about it, buddy. Let's just say that I take all polls with a grain of salt and leave it at that.
This was my point in a nutshell. Maybe you can describe the reasoning better than I could.
Got it. You just seemed to imply that the poll today was worth trusting since it was good news for Trump.
Good point. I don't trust many polls either. I've never been polled. They all sure had it wrong in 2015.
Depends on how you look at it. Hilary got a lot more votes than Trump, so she did win that. National polls for presidential races aren't very useful though. You need to look at the state numbers since the winner isn't determined by who gets the most overall votes.
The state numbers were wrong too. Here's the problem with trying to gauge Trump's popularity. A lot of people aren't going to admit they're voting for Trump because they don't want to deal with all the deranged TDS behavior. They don't want people stalking them online, threatening their job, or threatening their life. So, instead of being honest, they're going to lie.
Just trying to learn some more about polls. You seem to be very knowledgeable about polls, so I'll just defer to your opinion from now on.
