I think it's just a situation where they want to give a big GFY to the media since pretty much all of them said it was racist and a sizable majority said he is racist. I don't think many of them want a theocracy.
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Well said.
The fact that someone can be a brain surgeon and believe something that stupid shows that religion can easily poison an otherwise gifted mind.
LOL - you think Ben Carson gives a sh#t about black America. That's funny.
Political views aside, what is up with Ben anyway? I honestly wonder if he's on the spectrum. He's a world renown surgeon that comes off as the black Chauncey Gardner.
I've seen some Joe (not the other guy) before and he's always struck me as a middle of the road guy.
Yeah I watched it.
That one chick is pretty anti semitic too. It's amusing to me how some people will claim Trump is racist and discriminates, but then turn around and support her.
What makes you think he doesn't care about black American? That's typically a go to line for conservative black people, so I'm curious why you think he is.
They said his tweets were racist. The hard news and opinion people said that in basically every article I read. I've already stated my feelings on the whole Trump is a racist issue multiple times.
100%. It's the most hypocritical stance in an arena filled with hypocritical stances. It's really amazing.
Well, unless you're a member of a more protected minority group, then you get a pass (see above).
I need a rank 'em from the DNC on which protected minorities trump which protected minorities. I get the impression Jews are at the bottom of the food chain. Like sure, if I rip on them, they'll crucify me - but they don't stand a chance against the rest of the traditional minorities, who in turn don't stand a chance against the non-binary folks out there.
It was tongue-in-cheek. I agree it's better to have everything in one place, but that doesn't mean this thread doesn't suck.
I spoke on here of a friend of mine recently who has 7 kids. He's a professor at Charleston Southern. Our last conversation included him trying to imply that dinosaurs were mentioned somewhere in the book of Job, I think. Something about a beast with a long tail, I forgot. I said "Are you trying to put Dinosaurs on earth with human beings?" He said "The word of God is infallible. If one part is wrong, it's all wrong." I've known the man since 1988. I love him like a brother (we're like brothers). But, I couldn't hold back. "Dude... everything we know doesn't always have to also fit into that book that was actually written by human beings long before most human beings had the ability to read and write, and also had no knowledge of the world outside of the Mediterranean Sea."
Of all the ways to communicate with us, written words has got to be one of the least effective and least reliable! I even offered "God is a FEELING I get! We have the capacity to recognize feelings, to be introspective. I don't need an ancient book to make me aware of the greatest gifts God has given me." And, yes, he is a republican, and always votes republican.
K....but how does have anything to do with the fact that it is impossible that the Earth is only 5,000 (or 500,000 even) years old?
Don't look at me. I'm not the one who needs it to be. I was just offering a persona example of someone I know, and have known most of my life, who is a professor at a university, and also believes similar to someone like Ben Carson. Now, granted, CSU is a bible college (like the other colleges my friend has attended and been a professor or assistant professor). I've never hung-out with groups of his peers and fellow administrators, so I cannot testify to their views and opinions on scientific subjects.
It's interesting to me that some other friends of mine here in the upstate, who are "cradle Catholics", from PA originally and 2nd generation French immigrants, are extremely diverse in their religious attitudes and perspectives. I always thought Catholics were rigid and course with their beliefs and rituals. Not so, with these folks. Their mom turned me on to Lao-Tzu!
Alan Watts said "Christianity turned Guilt into a virtue to be treasured." Amen!
I asked my sister “how can you claim its the word of god?” She said “cause it says it is”
Oy veh
Yeah. It's kind of a wish list of "wouldn't it be nice if ..."
I could see plenty in it that lots of people would disagree with but I'm surprised some consider it sick.
It's mainly based off the second part of my response. Something is seriously off about that guy.
LOL
There's a part of me that is so envious of that simplicity. But, it's like a memory of childhood.
I'll tell my buddy that "I absolutely believe in God" and his response will be "Well, that's easy. Demons BELIEVE in God!" So, there ya go. Demons are part of God's creation, too! We all get to play.
So he doesn't care about black America because he's on the spectrum and/or comes off to you as the black Chauncey Gardner?
Almost everyone in this country is from somewhere else, even Trump. Is Trump a racist about himself?
She grew up in Somalia where Islamic anti-semtism is extremely prevalent. Tbh I haven’t followed her at all. All I’ve heard is that she criticized Israel and then suddenly people started calling her an anti-semite, which to be fair to her is an extremely common tactic. Hard liners love to claim that any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic. Are there anti-Semitic quotes or something?
Ayan Hirsi Ali should be the ultimate source on these matters. She grew up in the same culture at the same time before fleeing Somalia and eventually becoming a vocal critic of Islam and at one point held elected office in the Netherlands. Her book infidel paints a startling picture of what that culture is like.
Saying she grew up where anti semitism is cool so it’s fine that she’s an antisemite is really shitty.
She’s quick to say “I’m an American” but apparently that stops short of having to be ok with Jews?
This is the problem with political parties. You’re a dem so you feel the need to defend an antisemite cuz she’s also a dem? F that.
Broad strokes are a common tactic? Well, you would know.
Wtf are you talking about? I never said it was okay. I was explaining context that would explain her anti-semitism...
And I’ve been a registered independent since I registered to vote. This is the problem with political parties. People assume anyone that disagrees with them is a “dem” and must be defending things that they actually condemn.
You can say you’re independent all you want but you seem to support solely dems.
And reread your post above. It’s you trying to defend her. Shitty stuff.
Good job registering to vote last year. Glad you are finally old enough.
I didn’t defend her at all. In case you haven’t noticed, I’m more critical of religion (including Islam) than anyone here. The cultural point was about how pervasive the problem is in that region. Maybe you should reread the post yourself instead of making ridiculous assumptions.
You’re right I support zero republicans. That doesn’t make me a Democrat. But by all means keep trying to tell me what my views are.
I asked for evidence of her anti semitism because I don’t know anything about her besides the fact that she wears religious garb in the house.
She just introduced a resolution in committee today supporting a group that doesn't think Israel should exist and also compared Israel to Nazi Germany.
That’s a ridiculous comparison obviously and it sounds like something an anti-Semite would say. That being said, criticism of Israel is not necessarily anti-Semitic. Both Israel and Palestine do some pretty horrible shit. I’ll read up on the resolution. All I’ve seen reported was that it’s a resolution to support the right to criticize Israel.
Given her background and religious views, I wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised if she holds anti-Semitic views. But everyone should have the right to criticize Israel if that criticism is not based on bigotry against Jewish people. Maybe hers is. Like I said I don’t know anything about her and haven’t read the resolution.
Fox News says the resolution is about giving Americans the right to boycott Israeli products. Why shouldn’t they have that right? And why is that anti-Semitic?
Like I said I wouldn’t be surprised if she was anti-Semitic given her background and religion. But I don’t see how that resolution is anti-Semitic.
You need to read up on the BDS movement. It's more than just a regular boycott.
Okay fair enough. I don’t really have strong views on the Israeli-Palestine conflict, other than condemnation of both sides. It sounds like the BDS movement is against Israeli sovereignty and promotes a one state solution by trying to prop up Palestine. Doesn’t sound like a very effective approach to me.
That being said, I find it odd that the same people who have no problem with trump calling Mexico a shithole country that sends us rapists, don’t even hesitate to call a proposed trade war with Israel anti-Semitic. Not talking about you, just speaking in general.
These are the exact kinds of dog whistles people have been trying to explain that trump uses. Suddenly the right relearned how to read between the lines again... how strange.
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