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I remember hearing about Cobb NOT being the evil racist he's portrayed as in the film Cobb, at least 15, maybe 20 years ago. When I moved to Greenville, SC, there was a guy that worked at a local music store, who had a grandfather that was friends with Joe Jackson. he said that Cobb was nothing like the character that Tommy Lee Jones played. He donated a fortune to hospitals and schools as well.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/43506-ty-cobb-was-not-a-racist
ETA: I'm not too far from where Cobb was born and raised. I've seen a lot of Ty Cobb memorials over in northeast GA
Well heres verbatim what he said. So yea. I do. Tell me where i was innacurate.
"Well, I do think there's blame -- yes, I think there's blame on both sides. You look at -- you look at both sides. I think there's blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either. ... But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. ... You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
So you really dont know what i’m taking about with trump’s infidelity to his wives?
https://www.newsweek.com/how-many-times-trump-cheated-wives-780550
So are you really standing by yours that he wasnt mocking the reporters disability? Lol. Smfh
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...trump-appears-to-mock-disabled-reporter-video
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Let’s stick with Cville before moving on to the other points.
What in the quote was wrong? How could anyone take issue with that statement in its entirety?
Dang man a woman was run down by one of the alt righters. She was murdered. To say what he did is reprehensible. Its like getting up at someones funeral and bitching about the $20 they owe you. What if she were your family? Would you think his repsonse was appropriate? I mean really dude. Holy crap. “Yea your daughter was raped last night but just as a reminder theres fine men out there” lol. At best his response shows a colossal lack of tact and respect for the dead girls family. At worst hes defending white supremacists as “fine people”
And fwiw, imo, everyone there was trash. No fine people in sight. But noone deserved to be murdered.
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I would think his response was appropriate. Your analogy is terrible.
And the fact that you think people who peacefully demonstrate are trash just because you don't share your views says much more about you than them.
Appropriate? Lol. Wow just...wow. Only tds could make such a response seem appropriate.
And they didnt peacefully demonstrate. Both sides came equipped to fight, both baited each other with insults both fought and assaulted each other and oh yea... one side murdered. (But they’re fine people). Thats why they’re trash. The fact you would call that “peaceful” speaks volumes about you.
That's simply not true. There were people there who came to fight, and there were plenty of people there who did not come to fight nor did they want any part of that.
Do you know how the girl got killed? Because I've seen the video and the guy rams another car and then backs out. I don't see an injured girl anywhere.
I like you Heelman and I always have. Therefore I am exiting this conversation
bro i have never had a "bad week." you're the one constantly whining about a 73 year old man, as if he controls your life.
I wonder how that rumor got started? Did it stem from the movie or was the portrayal in the movie a result of the rumor?
That, I don't know. I think I first saw it in Ken Burns Baseball. That documentary tore him down BIG TIME. It reveals his skills, abilities and records. But, it also depicts a very angry person who hated almost anyone else. He was portrayed as KKK level racist. And, just mean to the bone.
Field of Dreams is a good movie in some ways. But, I don't like the way they depict the players. Ray Liotta isn't remotely accurate to Joe Jackson. That same guy I mentioned before was actually pissed about that movie! Ray Liotta was nothing like Jackson at all. He liked DB Sweeney from Eight Men Out, however.
Tim Pool, who is far from a Trump supporter, on why the progressives are so bat-s*** crazy. If you people want to fix the Democrat party, you should probably hear this guy out. He talks about ANTIFA and the Democrat politicians who are supporting them. He lays out the facts. The Democrats need to come to terms with the progressives like the Republicans had to come to terms with the Evangelicals. Of course, he's been labeled as a white supremacist by the progressives, which makes sense since he's half Korean. 
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Colion Noir talks to Bill Maher about guns. This is good for those of you who don't really know a lot about guns.
You guys just worry about keeping Trump in office. Those who oppose him will take care of themselves.Tim Pool, who is far from a Trump supporter, on why the progressives are so bat-s*** crazy. If you people want to fix the Democrat party, you should probably hear this guy out. He talks about ANTIFA and the Democrat politicians who are supporting them. He lays out the facts. The Democrats need to come to terms with the progressives like the Republicans had to come to terms with the Evangelicals. Of course, he's been labeled as a white supremacist by the progressives, which makes sense since he's half Korean.
I changed my voter registration from Independent to Democrat in order to vote for Tulsi Gabbard. She's probably the only chance the Dems have to take down Trump. I rather doubt it's going to be Fauxchohontas or The Groper.
I can’t think of anyone who wouldn’t be better than the shit show we have now.
Is that how it works in FL? I'm unenrolled in a party, and can choose which primary I want to vote in (can't choose multiple though).
I also plan to vote for Gabbard in the primary.
Yup, I know there is a petition out there that is trying to change this, but as of right now we don't have that option.
You Dems just want another warmongering, corporatist, against the common man, establishment type in there.
I’m not a dem, you dumbass. I have been a registered republican for over 50 years and had never voted for a democrat until this shit show ran for office.
So, you're a mainstream Rep. That isn't much different from a mainstream Dem. The fight isn't Dem vs. Rep anymore. It's mainstream vs. non-mainstream. People are done with the career politicians, that's why Trump is in office, and that's why I don't think the three Dem front-runners can beat him. I know you're an older gentleman, probably a baby boomer like my father. My father hates Trump as well. He can't understand how he won. The world is passing you people by. We won't be slaves to the establishment.
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Donald Trump is the King of Chaos. He has lied at least 12,000 timessince becoming president of the United States.
These lies are often obvious and lazy — such as incorrectly claiming that Hurricane Dorian would hit Alabama and then forcing scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to parrot his lies. Trump’s lies are made no less dangerous when they happen to be lazy and obvious.
Trump is unapologetic and unabashed in his contempt for American democracy and the rule of law. Many mental health professionals have concluded he is unwell. He lacks impulse control and evidences sociopathic behavior.
Trump acts like a self-styled mob boss — a corrupt bully who forces his subordinates to “kick up” to him.
America’s own spies do not trust our unpredictable president to act responsibly with the country’s secrets.
Trump is mercurial in his cruelty, waiting until people are in dire need to punish them, often based on sheer bigotry and racism. Most recently he has refused to let desperate people from the Bahamas enter the United States after their homes were destroyed by Hurricane Dorian.
He tells his subordinates to break the law as they execute his plans and promises to pardon them if they do so. He fires people on a whim in order to ensure their loyalty. He ignores any restraints on his power as mandated by the Constitution.
Progress is under assault in America as Trump and his allies are overturning the human and civil rights of nonwhites, women, LGBT people, the disabled and everyone else he and his movement deem to be “less than” and the Other.
Chaos is at the nucleus Age of Trump. This chaos and the disruption and destruction it causes manifest in many ways.
Trumpism is a form of backlash politics fueled by white rage at a perceived loss of privilege and power in a more diverse and cosmopolitan world. Trumpism is a temper tantrum along the global color line fueled by anxieties about power and social dominance.
Writing in the journal Contemporary Sociology, Jeffrey Alexander offers this context:
Backlash does not occur because conservative cadres and followers are anti-modern, irrational, or even unusually bigoted. Backlash is triggered, rather, because ideal and material structures of the status quo have been abruptly displaced, and those who occupied those structures wish to return to the time before displacement, when they were sitting and standing in what was obviously, and not just in retrospect, a better place.
In their 2016 article “Trump, Brexit, and the Rise of Populism,” social scientists Ronald Inglehart and Pippa Norris also locate Trumpism as part of a global right-wing movement that is channeling what they describe as “retro backlash.” This is a feeling “especially among the older generation, white men, and less educated sectors, who sense decline and actively reject the rising tide of progressive values, resent the displacement of familiar traditional norms, and provide a pool of supporters potentially vulnerable to populist appeals.”
Trumpism is doing the work of “accelerationism” — an ideology which holds that the destruction of the existing social order must be hastened, regardless of the human cost, so that a new and “better” world can be created. Trumpism is a means through which a right-wing, reactionary version of accelerationism is being enacted in the United States.
Writing in the Guardian, Andy Beckett summarizes the goals of accelerationist thinkers: “They often favour the deregulation of business, and drastically scaled-back government. They believe that people should stop deluding themselves that economic and technological progress can be controlled. They often believe that social and political upheaval has a value in itself.”
Predictably, white supremacists and other right-wing terrorists have embraced accelerationism because they understand it to be a viable strategy for destroying multiracial society.
Going beyond a conceptual framework, new research shows how backlash politics and accelerationism are lived through and experienced by Trump’s supporters — and make clear that Trump’s hold on them will be difficult if not impossible to break.
In their new award-winning research paper “A ‘Need for Chaos’ and the Sharing of Hostile Political Rumors in Advanced Democracies,” political scientists Michael Bang Petersen, Mathias Osmundsen and Kevin Arceneaux show that Donald Trump’s supporters are attracted to chaos and want to inflict it on others. They reached this conclusion by surveying a representative sample of approximately 6,000 people in Denmark (a country with comparatively low political polarization) and the United States.
The researchers asked the subjects if they agreed with the following statements:
- I fantasize about a natural disaster wiping out most of humanity such that a small group of people can start all over
- I think society should be burned to the ground
- Sometimes I just feel like destroying beautiful things
- There is no right and wrong in the world
In their paper Petersen, Osmundsen, and Arceneaux describe their findings as “staggering.” They write:
The extreme discontent expressed in the “Need for Chaos” scale is a minority view but it is a minority view with incredible amounts of support. … A substantial minority of individuals are so discontent that they are willing to mobilize against the current political order to see if what emerges from the resulting chaos has something better in stock for them.
People who measure high in “Need for Chaos” are also more likely to circulate conspiracy theories online. This is done not out of sincere belief but rather from a desire to cause chaos and confusion.
Right-wing authoritarians — a group that strongly correlates with Trump supporters and Republicans — are also emotionally immature. This is the conclusion of social psychologist Alain Van Hiel and his colleagues in their new paper “The Relationship Between Emotional Abilities and Right-Wing and Prejudiced Attitudes.“ Van Hiel explained his findings to the website PsyPost
The results of this study were univocal. People who endorse authority and strong leaders and who do not mind inequality — the two basic dimensions underlying right-wing political ideology — show lower levels of emotional abilities.
When one includes the findings of other research showing that Trump supporters and other conservatives) are likely to exhibit what psychologists call the “dark triad” of human behavior — Machiavellianism, psychopathy and narcissism — we must consider the possibility of significant political violence if and when Trump is removed from office.
Donald Trump’s movement is a type of political body. The brain consists of ideologues, whether they work in the White House (like Stephen Miller), right-wing think tanks and interest groups, the Republican Party, Fox News and other elite groupings. These people see Trumpism as their best chance to destroy America’s multiracial democracy, profit from environment disaster, gut the social safety net, destroy the commons, slash taxes on the wealthy and large corporations, or (in extreme cases) install a Christian nationalist regime.
The muscles, bones, guts and sinew of Trump’s political body are his coalition of white right-wing evangelicals, white suburbanites who do not care about democracy or the country’s overall health as long as their 401(k) accounts continue to grow, and bigoted, rage-filled members of the infamous “white working class.”
You’re posting on a public message board.
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First, I'm not sure what any of this has to do with my comment.
Second, I'm not really going to pay a lot of attention to snippets of "information" that don't really have much backstory. I know you're a "die-hard" Republican. I'm sure I could post some snippets that would make Reagan look like a goon.
Come strong, or go home, old man.
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