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The dude ain't above it. No way. Skin that thin combined with unlimited funds can be a dangerous thing, I would imagine. I wonder just how many bodies are buried at the bottom of Mr. Trump's checkbook.

I don’t peg him for a murderer but there’s no doubt he’s stiffed a lot of mom and pop subcontractors and done other shady stuff.

It’s why I don’t get the love he gets from evangelicals. He’s their polar opposite in belief system and way of life: adulterer, doesn’t care about religion, values money above all else, foul language, etc
 
He claims he's taking the hydroxychloroquine to prevent getting the Covid... I don't think he's taking it. I think he thinks he is taking it.
 
Can’t stand Pelosi myself, but her calling trump morbidly obese and him having a meltdown about it is comedy gold
 
Can’t stand Pelosi myself, but her calling trump morbidly obese and him having a meltdown about it is comedy gold
yeah... that's a great idea. It's best to get him pissed and holding a grudge. It's almost like she wants it to be difficult for her and everyone else. She should take tips from Howard Stern. He could get Donald right where he wanted him because he knew how to placate him.
 
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yeah... that's a great idea. It's best to get him pissed and holding a grudge. It's almost like she wants it to be difficult for her and everyone else. She should take tips from Howard Stern. He could get Donald right where he wanted him because he knew how to placate him.

Yeah because it totally wasn't difficult before she insulted him...
 
She has chosen to piss him off before, too. The dude is easy to please and placate. She's gotta grandstand just like he does.

Yeah I’m sure he would be completely cooperative and reasonable if she just complimented him enough.
 
She has chosen to piss him off before, too. The dude is easy to please and placate. She's gotta grandstand just like he does.
I agree with this. He's shown that that he doesn't operate on the partisan divide that everyone else in a major political position does (including Pelosi obviously).

It ends up being close to a partisan divide because the people most likely to kiss his ass are republicans. But Newsom (D) has bent the knee and Trump praises him, Romney (R) has challenged and insulted Trump and he's public enemy #1 in Trump's mind. I'm not saying people should necessarily capitulate to Trump, but it's fairly easy to get in his good graces, as you said.
 
I But Trump's mind. I'm not saying people should necessarily capitulate to Trump, but it's fairly easy to get in his good graces, as you said.
Do you not think that is a very dangerous trait for a POTUS to have? And on a list of other dangerous traits the man has, this is way down the list.
 
Well, she hasn't tried that. I can guarantee you that calling him morbidly obese is going to make him much more of an asshole. She won't try placating him because she's too much LIKE him!
On the plus side, we will never have to hear her talk about how immature and unprofessional he is. Surely she wouldn't be hypocritical about something so serious.
 
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It’s why I don’t get the love he gets from evangelicals. He’s their polar opposite in belief system and way of life: adulterer, doesn’t care about religion, values money above all else, foul language, etc

i've said this a hundred times - as an evangelical, i "love" him as PRESIDENT and policy maker - not as a moral or spiritual compass. i already have a Pastor, i'm never looking for one when i vote for POTUS or anything else.

also, whether you believe it or not does not matter to us evangelicals, but Trump has done more to protect religious freedom than any POTUS in a long time. another reason why we "love" him.
 
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I agree with this. He's shown that that he doesn't operate on the partisan divide that everyone else in a major political position does (including Pelosi obviously).

It ends up being close to a partisan divide because the people most likely to kiss his ass are republicans. But Newsom (D) has bent the knee and Trump praises him, Romney (R) has challenged and insulted Trump and he's public enemy #1 in Trump's mind. I'm not saying people should necessarily capitulate to Trump, but it's fairly easy to get in his good graces, as you said.
You can get anything from him that you want... if you schmooze him. I noticed that from the Netflix biography. If you play to his weaknesses, or his obvious insecurities, he's easy to manipulate. You may not get credit for the project, directly, but you will get paid for it and it will go smoothly.

Conversely, if you choose to be his nemesis, he'll make it his priority to make sure your life is hell. He learned from Roy Cohn.
 
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i've said this a hundred times - as an evangelical, i "love" him as PRESIDENT and policy maker - not as a moral or spiritual compass. i already have a Pastor, i'm never looking for one when i vote for POTUS or anything else.

also, whether you believe it or not does not matter to us evangelicals, but Trump has done more to protect religious freedom than any POTUS in a long time. another reason why we "love" him.

Well I appreciate religiosity isn’t the first thing you look for in a President. Unfortunately, many evangelists do and those that do and support Trump are hypocrites.

Second do tell what on earth he’s done to protect your religious freedom? It was never under attack in the first place.
 
Well I appreciate religiosity isn’t the first thing you look for in a President. Unfortunately, many evangelists do and those that do and support Trump are hypocrites.

Second do tell what on earth he’s done to protect your religious freedom? It was never under attack in the first place.

i'm sure they exist but i do not personally know any evangelical who has said/would say that they love Trump bc of his spiritual character and leadership. it's mostly policy and the alternative.

regarding religious freedom's, here are two fantastic and accurate lists, though i doubt you'll read them.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ght-religious-freedom-students-organizations/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...religious-freedom-united-states-around-world/
 
i've said this a hundred times - as an evangelical, i "love" him as PRESIDENT and policy maker - not as a moral or spiritual compass. i already have a Pastor, i'm never looking for one when i vote for POTUS or anything else.

also, whether you believe it or not does not matter to us evangelicals, but Trump has done more to protect religious freedom than any POTUS in a long time. another reason why we "love" him.

amazing how his detractors fail to grasp this simple concept...a leader who isn't (seemingly) everything to everybody, but simply addresses the job he was elected to address. But isn't he clownish and petulant? Don't foreign leaders not respect his approach? Isn't he 'dangerous'? That's the one that gets me. Let's count the bodies admin by admin and then see who is (was) dangerous.

He's rough as a cob and what I sincerely say about that is, 'it's about time'...that we had a for real human being at the head of our ship, and not some poser wearing a captain's hat for the lefties to get their warm fuzzies with. Give me someone who tells little innocuous lies and inaccuracies, and exaggerates for effect, over some POS doosher who sells us the big 'it's raining gold' lie while pissing down our backs.

When I'm sick I see a doctor, when my plumbing leaks I call a plumber. It wouldn't occur to me to heed anything a President represents in those regards. But when I want my country led, give me a Donald Trump over a Joe 'Kin-Before-Country' Biden, or a Hillary "Hot Sauce' Clinton, e.g., any day of the year. And especially over a Nancy 'Obstruct-or-Die' Pelosi or a Barrack 'Big Lie' Obama.
 
i'm sure they exist but i do not personally know any evangelical who has said/would say that they love Trump bc of his spiritual character and leadership. it's mostly policy and the alternative.

regarding religious freedom's, here are two fantastic and accurate lists, though i doubt you'll read them.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ght-religious-freedom-students-organizations/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...religious-freedom-united-states-around-world/
Those two links don’t provide one dam thing he’s done.....lol
 
amazing how his detractors fail to grasp this simple concept.

they have no other recourse with evangelicals, so they go back to this over and over again. they're going to have to deal with this made up "mystery" for several more years.
 
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Hypocrite. I love that word. I love how much it's used. I love when people who are clueless about their own hypocrisy chastise others for being hypocrites. I'll be direct. You are a hypocrite too. You won't admit to it like I will. But you definitely are one. Every single person that poasts at this board is. There are some here that attempt to explain how they're not a hypocrite but they're either too blind to recognize it or they're lying. I'll let you decide which group you fit into.


Admitting you’re a hypocrite doesn’t make you a better person or somehow more upstanding person. You seem to think that blatantly flaunting whatever beliefs you have for personal benefit is somehow admiral. Which is ironic really, you’re a stickler for a lot of things.
 
i'm sure they exist but i do not personally know any evangelical who has said/would say that they love Trump bc of his spiritual character and leadership. it's mostly policy and the alternative.

regarding religious freedom's, here are two fantastic and accurate lists, though i doubt you'll read them.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ght-religious-freedom-students-organizations/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...religious-freedom-united-states-around-world/

Two executive orders. Okay, fair enough but it’s not like he passed some comprehensive bill.

Furthermore “religious freedom” is a very tricky concept. Do you have the freedom to worship in whatever church or hold what beliefs you want? Yes, everyone does. But many wrongdoings are perpetuated in the name of religious freedom. I’ve seen it first hand.
 
I’m a better person regardless. My willingness to admit to my hypocritical ways is just a small part of the equation.

Right, keep telling yourself that.

I would never say I’m not hypocritical about certain things, everyone is. But I’m certainly not hypocritical when it comes to what I look for in a President. These so called pious types are not often the same.
 
Religious freedom is important. Have to protect the religious types from each other so they don’t tear each other to shreds.

Freedom from religion is what’s really important though. Believe whatever silliness you want to on your own time, but stay the hell off my porch, and stop trying to butt into public education.
 
Two executive orders. Okay, fair enough but it’s not like he passed some comprehensive bill.

Furthermore “religious freedom” is a very tricky concept. Do you have the freedom to worship in whatever church or hold what beliefs you want? Yes, everyone does. But many wrongdoings are perpetuated in the name of religious freedom. I’ve seen it first hand.

'But many wrongdoings are perpetuated in the name of ___________________(fill in the blank). I’ve seen it first hand'
 
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