OOTB's Political Thread . ..
- Thread starter BillyL
- Start date
It'd be nice if the post office didn't lose that much money.
I get it, it's not going to be profitable, but does it need to hemorrhage cash?
I get it, it's not going to be profitable, but does it need to hemorrhage cash?
It’s puzzling the usps is struggling given their amazing business model
There's definitely a negative correlation between the quality and quantity of voters.
Begs the question of whether you'd prefer certain things to be determined by high quality voters or a high quantity of voters.
Dick's platform: If you're a genius in a wheelchair, F you, you don't get a chance to vote.
It would be nice if only educated objective reasonable people “of means” that were highly motivated to have their voices heard voted. Making them register ahead of time then travel somewhere And stand in line on a weekday and provide valid picture Id will certainly “weed out” some of the undesirables. But I’m not too sure that’s what those “framers of the constitution” that people reference when it suits their agendas had in mind when making voting a right as a us citizen. Maybe we could add an agility course, or pay a poll tax, or make em provide a dna print out proving they arent one of those hyphenated minorities hell bent on spreading socialism, taking our money, and making us drive electric cars.
But no I don’t support mass mailing of ballots to people who haven’t applied for them. If that’s indeed happening.
unless they’re gonna vote like I do.
But no I don’t support mass mailing of ballots to people who haven’t applied for them. If that’s indeed happening.
unless they’re gonna vote like I do.
Last edited:
If a dating app on your cell phone can verify your identity, I’m pretty sure we could make online voting work
Last edited:
I'm certainly not implying that the "undesirables" that you mention shouldn't be allowed to vote. They certainly should be. I was just raising the question of whether the result of any vote would be "better" if it had a higher quality of voter or a higher quantity of voter, that's all.
And those framers of the constitution didn't include blacks and women in who they deemed fit to vote, so I'm not sure how much weight we should give their opinion on it.
I completely agree with this (although then we'd have to listen to how it's voter suppression because not everyone has access to the internet). But honestly in the age of the internet, we really could have something closer to a true democracy, where every citizen votes on everything (or at least all major things) via online voting.
Tax payers could allocate which portions of their taxes go to which programs, etc. which would drive a true market power for various programs and entitlements. If people want to overfund a certain program, great. If people don't want to give their money to a certain program, maybe it goes under.
Subsidies and taxes are primarily supposed to address market failures though. You don’t want market forces driving where the funds get allocated to. They already failed, that’s the point. That’s just going to lead to runaway externality problems IMO.
With regards to entitlements, you’re opening the door to some nasty tribalism. Who the entitlements and governments programs benefit has a huge impact on the way they are perceived in this country. Nobody cared about ‘socialism‘ when the government was handing out free land or cheap mortgages to white folks, but give a black woman a free cell phone and people lose their damn minds.
We could get closer to a pure democracy, but that doesn’t mean that we should. I’d still prefer to have actual economists making those types of decisions, instead of politicians or uninformed voters.
There are certain issues that are appropriate for ballot measures. I’m not sure that voting on how entitlements are funded is one of them.
Last edited:
I'm all for low voter turnout. I'm also for coming up with some way to weed out the dumb voters. It would probably require some type of test, so I guess that makes me a racist probably.
I doesn't make you racist. But, how do you (or whoever) establish a universally-objective test? That's the hard part. I actually think it's a good idea... but, I'm biased! We are all biased.
Aside from the slavery concession, the Electoral College was a good idea. It was never intended for the citizens to vote for president. Now, the EC is totally emasculated, it is a completely token institution, but their votes are still "counted" in electing the president. The delegates/electors in the EC can't even vote against the popular vote of the state! That is exactly why it was created! "The people want Johnny Shit-For-Brains? Sorry, folks! I'm voting for John Quincy Adams."
That's not a nice thing to say about James Monroe.
(yes folks, that's an election of 1820 joke, I'll be here all weekend)
Good question and I don't really have the answer. It should be some simple questions though. Like name the president and VP, how many branches of government are there, who was the first president, etc. Things that anyone over the age of 10 should know. Or maybe we could make people take the citizenship test every 5-10 years. It's kinda sad that most people who get their citizenship know more about the country than your average natural born citizen.
- Name the 3 Branches of Government
- How many electoral votes are required to decide the election?
- Name your current US Congressperson
- Name your state's two senators in the US Senate
ETA:
How many electoral votes does your state carry?
Last edited:
Bring back civics for high school students and make it a mandatory core curriculum class. If you don’t pass the class you can’t graduate high school. What percentage of people who don’t graduate high school bother to vote? I’m guessing it’s a tiny minority.
Yeah but the bottom 20% of my high school class seems to be the loudest on Facebook about politics so you're just wrong, they are experts....
you're being disingenuous. You can't have known Biden over so many years, as I have, and know him to be anything but a career political player and a clown of a human being. He is a complete dork. He is literally the walking shitshow he appears to be.
newsflash: it hasn't yet, but it has taken large strides in that direction in recent years. And as with all you usual suspects, you dwell on the irrelevant and the superficial, as if you don't have the capacity to see past it. I don't care one shit about how our leader comes off, I care about what he does or at least tries to do. It sickens me to see so many pussies whining about mannerisms rather than what matters.
and shouldn't that be true regarding any elected official, unless you're some starstruck liberal muttonhead? I've done a lot of stupid crap in my life, but voting for a politician because he dresses well or has a great personality or perfect teeth isn't something I'm guilty of.
you really expect this to be taken seriously? Only pointing out a few exceptions to the point is laughably lame.
Why didn't you mention his unfettering of business and his effect on unemployment, for starters?
If I could give this infinity "likes", it still wouldn't be enough. You nailed it. I am like you...I couldn't possibly care less of what people think of Trump. What he has done to make this country stronger is what we needed, not some pretty boy that can smile and dupe the world with his charm.
Dems just can't get over that Trump doesn't think like Obama, doesn't kiss ass like Obama, doesn't act like Obama, doesn't have the business stupidity of Obama but, most importantly to the Dems, Trump doesn't look like Obama.
I am going in to life saving surgery and I have to choose my doctor. If I am going to choose between a nice looking, slick-talking doctor with a shitty record of success or a loud-mouth with no bedmanners but an extremely high success rate, who the hell you think I'm going to chose?
What exactly is a "career political player"? This isn't office politics we're talking about, and you obviously don't know much if anything about Joe Biden because those who do, those who know him personally, describe him as anything but "a clown of a human being." Who's being disingenuous now?
But after all, you're Donald Trump's #1 crotch remora and I'm sure your butthole stings right now knowing his days in the White House are drawing to an end. Suck on it.
Except Obama isn’t the one with a long track record of failed businesses, bankruptcies, and outright scams. The irony here is that he ‘slick talked’ you into buying the jingoistic bullshit that you keep repeating.
How in the hell did you ever even manage to GET a 401K???
Biden could wrap this thing up in no time if he came out and said he'd legalize weed on day one.
I was a Patriot way before Trump took office. Growing up near Ft. Bragg has a lot to do with it. I've always loved my country but not my government. I live my life KNOWING I'm responsible for virtually everything that happens to me in my life. I don't point fingers at others for my mistakes and I sure as fuhk don't worry what others think. I live and work for the betterment of me, my family, my friends foremost. Next is what's best for my country.
Just like most libs, you believe anyone that supports Trump supports everything he does or has done. That's simply not the case and digs deep to show how desperately lost your kind are. I am not in least bit concerned about his private life. Do I agree with him having affairs? Not at all but I don't care because it didn't cost me anything. Do I like all of his personal business deals? Not at all but I don't care because it didn't cost me anything. But do tell me...what has he done other than hurting peoples feelings that was so terrible for this country? PLEASE don't start with the buIIshit that he causes racial tension and racial divide because that shizzle started in 2007 when The One was running for president. All the libs were shouting that the only reason a White person would not vote for Obama was because he was Black. THAT started the racial divide. Many conservatives like myself were shocked that libs...especially WHITE libs, were calling conservatives racist. Simply because we didn't like his platform. There is absolutely NO WAY you could not like his policies as an organizer or what his platform was. Just couldn't be. It just HAD to be racism. Very shallow, dangerous, and truly desperate thinking.
Again...other than hurting some feelings and saying things that, perhaps, he shouldn't say...what has he DONE to this country that has been bad for us? No emotion can be used. This is strictly about how the country was performing from his election until the COVID hit.
Similar threads
