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A few hrs ago nobody was defending accusations that Trump says horrible things about military members, and still aren't. But that's old news. The new news is stuff from the Woodward book, like him admitting that coronavirus was 5x more deadly than the flu.
ETA to add. Woodward book is old news. Now the news is the DHS whistleblower stuff where Barr and others asked DHS people to adjust their reports:
to "modify" a threat assessment, particularly "the section on White Supremacy" to make "the threat appear less severe," and "include information on the prominence of violent 'left-wing' groups."
Trump would shit in their mouths and they'd ask for mustard and relish... or just straight from the tap. He's like Johnnie Cochran- crooked as hell and nothing sticks.
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Guys, it's really not as close as your making it sound.
Healthy people are a product of healthy lifestyles. You want to legislate that too? We could start with drug and alcohol tests for those on public assistance. Next maybe limit EBT cards to healthy foods.
I know what you were trying to say, dummy. I in turn tried to explain to you that, unlike your understanding of the analogy, a deranged and resentful individual here and there isn't going to sink the country by blowing a hole in it. You have limitations, my friend. Try to understand them so you can do better.
And in case you haven't noticed, I HAVE a nation that has prospered by not providing everything to everybody all the time. I HAVE a nation that became great without making healthcare equally available financially to all. With the grace of God and Donald Trump (or whoever can keep the socialist tide at bay), I might still have it for a few more years.
So please tell me how this country became what it has become without providing 'free' healthcare to all. According to you, that apparently just wasn't possible. Yet it happened, so how does that indicate that somehow a change is necessary to sustain the success?
bluetoe is actually providing readable arguments, despite lame (according to him) analogies. Everyone else is just phoning it in. Humpday.
Sure- I’m flush with cash after Dad just came back from Ukraine
In worldwide comparison our nation's healthcare metrics are getting worse and worse. We're paying more money for worse healthcare outcomes. Our healthcare system is broken. You don't agree?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, but it's broke.
How about a show-of-hands for the Qanon devotees. You gotta be a certain level of cult status to get that prestigious association.
LOL. If nominated I will not run, and if elected I will not serve. But I'll tell you where to send the checks. And the hookers and the blow leftover from the last mayoralty.
we're paying more money principally for one major reason...supply and demand. We are spending money on healthcare for things that were previously ignored or that there were fewer solutions to. That we spend so much on healthcare is the greatest sign of our success that I can think of. If it ain't broke don't fix it by breaking it is right.
Holy shit, lemme put it another way - other countries achieve better health outcomes for less money.
uh oh, they're bringing in the ringer, heelmanwil. I gotta go, I have a date with a bourbon and ginger.
that might in some ways be true, but that also might be at least in part because our system is relatively unrestricted.
They didn’t have to be with him 24/7 to hear him say it
They would have to be to say that he never said it. God, you people....
Hating Charles Manson would not be irrational because there is a lot about the man to hate, same goes for Trump.
This is jibber-jabber and you haven't even hit the bourbon yet.
- supply and demand is the reason we're spending so much? 'Splain that? Are you saying the demand for healthcare is high, but we are in low supply of healthcare? Do other countries just have less demand and more supply then?
- And do other countries not have newer/more healthcare solutions or are other countries still ignoring things?
- Spending "so much" is a sign of success? Only if you are getting massive returns, which we aren't. What school of business did you go to?
I think you have zero clue why healthcare is so expensive in the US.
Huh? What does "relatively unrestricted" have to do with the fact that you can get better overall healthcare outcomes via less spending in other countries?
No, since the China Flu, fack the people and the roads. Who needs either one?
So we're invoking Manson when talking about Trump now? I guess that's slightly better than your comparison to Hitler.
I think this one fails worse than your cruise ship analogy.
What's wrong with comparing individuals, especially in circumstances like this, to Hitler and Manson. They're ideal comparisons. Hell, that is one thing their presence in history actually serves to HELP. You could argue that their whole existence was to set a precedent to make sure people never mimic again. Neither cult started out with murder and genocide.
I wasn’t comparing the two, I was simply saying they both have a lot to hate.
There's plenty of people that are hated. Why did you pick them? A lot of people hate obama. Maybe just use him since they are both presidents.
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