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No i’m saying hes lying cause the tweet is in fact...a lie. And his point was that dems are complaining about daca now when they chose not to do anything about DACA (he didnt say immigration he said DACA) when they controlled all three branches from 08-11. That is a lie. They didnt control all three branches and oh yea....DACA DIDNT EXIST FOR THEM TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT!

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No i’m saying hes lying cause the tweet is in fact...a lie. And his point was that dems are complaining about daca now when they chose not to do anything about DACA (he didnt say immigration he said DACA) when they controlled all three branches from 08-11. That is a lie. They didnt control all three branches and oh yea....DACA DIDNT EXIST FOR THEM TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT!

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They absolutely controlled all branches from Obama's inauguration (Jan 2009) until the Congress was sworn in- early Jan 2011. If you want to try to make some deal about it being 09 and 10 instead of 08-11, knock yourself out.

If you also want to try to make some deal about DACA not being synonymous with Immigration reform, again, knock yourself out.

I must say I am surprised though- I never figured you for someone who would come down with TDS. I mean, sure, I can see it out of the likes of Lyles and Boy, but I never would have expected that BDD would break one off in you too.
 
Be that as it may, it's impossible to argue that Trump haters argue semantics all the time as their proof that Trump lied.

Here's the deal, I'm going to be as real as I can be here, when it comes to stupid shit like this, I don't give a rip if he lied or not.

Here's a lie: "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." The guy knew damn well he was lying when he said this.

Here's somebody popping off at the mouth: "The Dems controlled congress and the white house from 2008-2011." (what should have been said was 8-10 or 9-11). Trump knows damn well that he is talking about the first 2 full years of Obama's presidency, and so does everyone else.

But instead, because people have a need to be miserable (even when shit is going great), they parse his twitter account like it is the cot dam Magna Carta for proof that orange man lies, therefore orange man bad.
 
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Hey and if u want to ignore politicians lying to support their agenda knock yourself da fuq out as well. Just be sure and give the same grace when dems do similar. We wouldnt want to diagnose you with tds of your own.
 
Here's a lie: "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." The guy knew damn well he was lying when he said this.

Here's somebody popping off at the mouth: "The Dems controlled congress and the white house from 2008-2011." (what should have been said was 8-10 or 9-11). Trump knows damn well that he is talking about the first 2 full years of Obama's presidency, and so does everyone else.

But instead, because people have a need to be miserable (even when shit is going great), they parse his twitter account like it is the cot dam Magna Carta for proof that orange man lies, therefore orange man bad.

I despised obamacare and the way it was passed and said so ad nauseum in this very forum. The ones needing to be miserable are the ones martyring themselves in support of a liar. I just enjoy the hell outta pointing out partisan political hypocrisy and blind allegiance and trump twitter is a fuking gold mine for that! Lol.
 
I despised obamacare and the way it was passed and said so ad nauseum in this very forum. The ones needing to be miserable are the ones martyring themselves in support of a liar. I just enjoy the hell outta pointing out partisan political hypocrisy and blind allegiance and trump twitter is a fuking gold mine for that! Lol.

Who cares about Twitter? I only care about what actually gets passed.
 
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I despised obamacare and the way it was passed and said so ad nauseum in this very forum. The ones needing to be miserable are the ones martyring themselves in support of a liar. I just enjoy the hell outta pointing out partisan political hypocrisy and blind allegiance and trump twitter is a fuking gold mine for that! Lol.

Oh, ok, I didn't realize you were speaking generally. Probably the wrong place to troll though because no one here is blindly allegiant.
 
I have no qualms admitting i personally dislike trump. Hes an arrogant bully. I dont trust him. I feel he lacks integrity and honor in his dealings. I didnt vote for him cause i felt he wasnt qualified and i feel hes proven me right. Theres several repubs i would have voted for over hillary. I’m embarrassed hes our president. Carry on.
 
I don't know if this comment is aimed at me or not. I mean, I'm not @ticket2ride04 height but I'm also several inches taller than Napoleon was.

But that brings me to a thought. Why is the complex called "Napoleon complex"? He was 5'6"-5'7", which back in that day, was probably taller than the average man. I would understand if it were called the "Toulouse Lautrec complex". That would make sense.
I vote for renaming it Herve Villachaize complex.
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One of Trump's greatest legacies will be that he made it so that you could sift through a President's statements and try to pick out little things here and there that show him to be a fool, to just blindly go against anything a President does just because it's him that does it, call half the country a bunch of racist misogynistic bigots just for voting for someone, and not get branded a deranged lunatic in your own right.

I'll probably vote for some Progressive in 2020 just so I can try my hand at it.
 
I have no qualms admitting i personally dislike trump. Hes an arrogant bully. I dont trust him. I feel he lacks integrity and honor in his dealings. I didnt vote for him cause i felt he wasnt qualified and i feel hes proven me right. Theres several repubs i would have voted for over hillary. I’m embarrassed hes our president. Carry on.

I have no idea if I would personally dislike Trump. Of course he's arrogant and of course he's a bully. I feel like he has done a better job of keeping campaign promises than any president since Reagan, so I'm fine with his integrity and honesty. I did vote for him because I thought he was the only one who could beat the Clintons. I would have voted for anyone over Hillary. I'm not embarrassed because why would I be?

I am not sure he will run again in 2020, but if he does, then he will win.
 
One of Trump's greatest legacies will be that he made it so that you could sift through a President's statements and try to pick out little things here and there that show him to be a fool, to just blindly go against anything a President does just because it's him that does it, call half the country a bunch of racist misogynistic bigots just for voting for someone, and not get branded a deranged lunatic in your own right.

I'll probably vote for some Progressive in 2020 just so I can try my hand at it.

Mehhh i would say that over 7000 documented false or misleading statements (yea people are counting) doesnt require much sifting. Every time i log on twitter there’s a new gem staring me in the face it seems. But anyway i do support some of his policies on trade, gun control, and the economy. Its much more a dislike of his persona than his politics. Plus some groups i strongly distrust (cough, evangelicals, cough) have sold their souls to him to further their agenda.
 
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Mehhh i would say that over 7000 documented false or misleading statements (yea people are counting) doesnt require much sifting. Every time i log on twitter there’s a new gem staring me in the face it seems. But anyway i do support some of his policies on trade, gun control, and the economy. Its much more a dislike of his persona than his politics. Plus some groups i strongly distrust (cough, evangelicals, cough) have sold their souls to him to further their agenda.

This argument reminds me of Chris Rock's stand-up...Men tell the most lies, Women tell the biggest lies. Which lies hurt the most?
 
Mehhh i would say that over 7000 documented false or misleading statements (yea people are counting) doesnt require much sifting. Every time i log on twitter there’s a new gem staring me in the face it seems. But anyway i do support some of his policies on trade, gun control, and the economy. Its much more a dislike of his persona than his politics. Plus some groups i strongly distrust (cough, evangelicals, cough) have sold their souls to him to further their agenda.
Maybe you should stay off the twitter and just enjoy your life as it is.
 
Mehhh i would say that over 7000 documented false or misleading statements (yea people are counting) doesnt require much sifting. Every time i log on twitter there’s a new gem staring me in the face it seems. But anyway i do support some of his policies on trade, gun control, and the economy. Its much more a dislike of his persona than his politics. Plus some groups i strongly distrust (cough, evangelicals, cough) have sold their souls to him to further their agenda.

Ya, for the most part I like his politics. While I don’t really like his persona on its own, the fact it chaps so many people makes me love it. It doesn’t affect me one iota if Trump serves Clemson fast food, a spread from a 4 star Michelin restaurant, or if he was hunched over a stove all day cooking them something himself. The fact it got people so bent, makes me happy he went the fast food route (although granted, people would have found issue with whatever he served them, because that’s what they do).

As for the Evangelicals, ya, F those people.
 
All politicians lie, it's sort of in the job description.

However, the good ones usually lie for a greater good that will be achieved by lying. It's the old "honey, how do I look in this dress" thing.

I feel like our last 4 Presidents have lied for their own benefit, not for the benefit of the country. That's my issue.

Bush I was the last one that I thought lied for reasons that benefitted us. No new taxes is a prime example. Did he lie? Yup. Did the country really need new taxes and did he fall on the sword for the betterment of our country? Yep.
 
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Obama - wrong about the future effects of his policy = "liar"
Trump - ~10 documented lies a day = "meh"

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Telling someone they can keep their physician when the legislation signed specifically states otherwise is a lie. There was nothing unforeseen which occurred- this wasn't an honest mistake.

Saying 2008 when he should have said 2009 is meh. Unless you think Obama was a liar for saying there are 57 states and I don't think Obama was a liar for saying that.

Now go worry about that faggit PM of yours and leave us Americans to figure out how we will continue to keep everyone else fat, happy and safe. Fukkin mooches.
 
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All politicians lie, it's sort of in the job description.

However, the good ones usually lie for a greater good that will be achieved by lying. It's the old "honey, how do I look in this dress" thing.

I feel like our last 4 Presidents have lied for their own benefit, not for the benefit of the country. That's my issue.

Bush I was the last one that I thought lied for reasons that benefitted us. No new taxes is a prime example. Did he lie? Yup. Did the country really need new taxes and did he fall on the sword for the betterment of our country? Yep.

New taxes made our country better? Is that what you are trying to say?

Are you already drunk?
 
Today trump tweets another caravan of immigrants is on the way and thats why we need a wall.

Anyone know what happened to the last caravan? I’m assuming since theres no wall to stop them they must be in the US now.
 
Telling someone they can keep their physician when the legislation signed specifically states otherwise is a lie. There was nothing unforeseen which occurred- this wasn't an honest mistake.

Can you tell me where the ACA states this? I believe you are lying to me.

Now go worry about that faggit PM of yours and leave us Americans to figure out how we will continue to keep everyone else fat, happy and safe. Fukkin mooches.

Wow - Did JT sleep with your mom or something?

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Today trump tweets another caravan of immigrants is on the way and thats why we need a wall.

Anyone know what happened to the last caravan? I’m assuming since theres no wall to stop them they must be in the US now.


Legit question to all the Trumpies - Do you want a wall? Not talking better border security or changes to immigration policy but specifically a wall?

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Mosesm claims (and tazki cant like enough) the “leftist media and educators” have lied about silent sam’ purpose in response to a post claiming its a monument to students who served BOTH sides of civil war and “how did we get away from that?”

Lets see how hard this is to figure out....

HES WEARING A FUKING CONFEDERATE UNIFORM
 
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HES WEARING A FUKING CONFEDERATE UNIFORM

I don't give two shits about the Confederacy or really any Southern Pride, and in fact would have been fighting for the North had I been born 150 years earlier.

That said, it's sad that people can't disassociate the individual soldiers, fighting for their homes, most probably not literate/connected enough to know any other motives for the war. from the few powerful people that created the CSA, with one of their several reasons being slavery.
 
When u lie to people in an attempt to sell them something they will become skeptical and resistant. At least those who dont blindly agree with EVERYTHING you say.
 
I don't give two shits about the Confederacy or really any Southern Pride, and in fact would have been fighting for the North had I been born 150 years earlier.

That said, it's sad that people can't disassociate the individual soldiers, fighting for their homes, most probably not literate/connected enough to know any other motives for the war. from the few powerful people that created the CSA, with one of their several reasons being slavery.

Thats a reasonable take. And reasonable educated people certainly disagree on this stuff. But to claim ss was erected to honor students who served BOTH sides is just a plain lie. And to blame “leftist media and educators” for manipulating people into thinking it just honors confederate soldiers just doubles down on the stupidity.
 
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Can you tell me where the ACA states this? I believe you are lying to me.



Wow - Did JT sleep with your mom or something?

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Really? I’m not rehashing the ACA with a foreigner, and especially a Canadian.

And no, my mom is a woman and as such, not on your boi’s radar.
 
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