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Recruitng class of 2016

Agreed. Bill Snyder made his career out of finding hard working guys at TX and KS Jucos to fill immediate needs. Copeland is a big LB - tall enough to play pass D against TEs and heavy enough to pound into RBs and clog the middle behind the DTs.
I doubt Snyder's recruits could get into UNC.
 
I doubt Snyder's recruits could get into UNC.
For a number of them, such as QB Michael Bishop, that is true. But for many of them it is not true. They are like Copeland in that the reasons for Juco were not for being dumb as a post or being a criminal (like Cam Newton) - but instead were things such as HS injuries, late growth, very small high school that just does not get recruited by major programs.
 
Walston, Dorn, Wolfolk, Jordon Brown, Chazz, Logan Byrd are all early enrollees i think. We are at 80 scholarships at the moment, so 5 early enrollees can count against this yr instead of next yr's class. So we could bring in a total of 30 scholarships as long as we don't eclipse the 85 max. With Copeland in the fold we are expected to hit the 85 Maximum however. So we are done unless some unexpected people quit, go pro, xfer, get hurt, etc.
 
Walston, Dorn, Wolfolk, Jordon Brown, Chazz, Logan Byrd are all early enrollees i think. We are at 80 scholarships at the moment, so 5 early enrollees can count against this yr instead of next yr's class. So we could bring in a total of 30 scholarships as long as we don't eclipse the 85 max. With Copeland in the fold we are expected to hit the 85 Maximum however. So we are done unless some unexpected people quit, go pro, xfer, get hurt, etc.

If we are at 80 you have to think that some of those are walk-ons who were awarded Ships during the season...Also don't forget Walker left the team and we had 1 or 2 other guys that left also...

Going to look around tonight and see who we have on the team now...
 
Really wondering if we have a chance at getting DB Troy Pride (assuming we're interested).
We are still recruiting several DB's and LB's assuming for one spot for each. I saw that Rico Dowdle has 3 predictions on the crystal ball for SoCar. 247 doesn't have a * rating for him and I haven't seen a service who does.
 
If we are at 80 you have to think that some of those are walk-ons who were awarded Ships during the season...Also don't forget Walker left the team and we had 1 or 2 other guys that left also...

Going to look around tonight and see who we have on the team now...

My numbers include Walker, Joe Jackson, Caleb, Kedrick davis, all those people who were on scholarship this yr, but had a yr left, and who are no longer scholarship next yr.

Looking at the jrs and sophs, the only walk-on with scholarship i see is Hollins, unless Nick Weiler was also a walk-on. The redshirt frosh and frosh, I only see freeman jones and corbin daly as guys that might've walked on (only guessing since they are kickers). I doubt any of the kickers or hollins would have their scholarship pulled.

So to make room for another db or simms/hansford, craig, somebody needs to grad early or xfer or have a medical prob. I'm kinda surprised Dan Mastro isn't graduating early, cause i don't think he played much at all.
 
My numbers include Walker, Joe Jackson, Caleb, Kedrick davis, all those people who were on scholarship this yr, but had a yr left, and who are no longer scholarship next yr.

Looking at the jrs and sophs, the only walk-on with scholarship i see is Hollins, unless Nick Weiler was also a walk-on. The redshirt frosh and frosh, I only see freeman jones and corbin daly as guys that might've walked on (only guessing since they are kickers). I doubt any of the kickers or hollins would have their scholarship pulled.

So to make room for another db or simms/hansford, craig, somebody needs to grad early or xfer or have a medical prob. I'm kinda surprised Dan Mastro isn't graduating early, cause i don't think he played much at all.
pretty sure freeman Jones is on scholly and I think Corbin Daly walked on til one becomes available. Maybe we are grey shirting LOL.
 
Clemson is on fire right now. It's good for the conference but also bad for us since our recruiting territories overlap.
according to some posters on this board what's good for clemson is good for the ACC and since carolina is in the ACC what's good for clemson is therefore good for carolina. well, nothing i've read has changed my opinion that a clemson dynasty is NOT good for UNC.
 
according to some posters on this board what's good for clemson is good for the ACC and since carolina is in the ACC what's good for clemson is therefore good for carolina. well, nothing i've read has changed my opinion that a clemson dynasty is NOT good for UNC.
ACC football requires - if it is to be taken seriously - large numbers of highly sought after recruits and multiple ranked teams, especially teams in the playoffs and winning bowls. Would it make it easier for UNC football to recruit NC and border states if the top 7 in the ACC every year were UNC, FSU, Miami, BC, Syracuse, Pitt, and Louisville?

Probably so (as long as Tenn, SoCar, UGa and other SEC schools do not hit NC, VA, SC, and GA hard). But would it mean anything good long term in the national picture? Probably not.

Top players do not prefer to play nobody. Top players do not flock to Bama simply because it wins and has a 100,000 seat stadium. They flock to Bama for those reasons and because the SEC competition is top rate, and that is true because other SEC schools also recruit well. Bama does not recruit better when all its in-state and border state conference foes fail on the recruiting trail.

Would it make it easier for UT to recruit really well and rebuild if Bama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, and LSU were all down in recruiting? Yep - and all those programs down at the same time would lower the national respect for SEC football, meaning any Vols rise would be something less than nationally compelling.

ACC football has only 2 large football fan bases: Clemson and FSU. We require, in order to have maximum national respect, both to be good every year. In fact, we all but require one of that pair to win the Atlantic every year.

I hope Clemson and FSU both keep up the top recruiting. Our staff can and will sell that to recruits, that they can be part of beating those ACC giants.
 
...I hope Clemson and FSU both keep up the top recruiting. Our staff can and will sell that to recruits, that they can be part of beating those ACC giants.
you hope clemson and FSU continue to recruit better than us ("top recruiting") but you want us to beat them? that seems self-contradictory.
 
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i don't see anyone picking carolina because they want to beat fsu and/or clemson.
kids pick fsu/clemson because they want to win and carolinas best chance of winning is for the acc to be down.
we ain't bama.
 
i don't see anyone picking carolina because they want to beat fsu and/or clemson.
kids pick fsu/clemson because they want to win and carolinas best chance of winning is for the acc to be down.
we ain't bama.

You know, I don't agree with that last part. Look at this team this year. They want to compete and frankly could beat anyone in the country, including Bama. Doesn't mean they would as we saw with the loss to Clemson but they could. It's an important distinction in that we could have beaten Clemson. Just a little here and there and we win.

That'd be the same with Bama, with all of them. We want to win the ACC but we also want to win a national title. Imo, we are well-placed to do exactly that.
 
You know, I don't agree with that last part. Look at this team this year. They want to compete and frankly could beat anyone in the country, including Bama. Doesn't mean they would as we saw with the loss to Clemson but they could. It's an important distinction in that we could have beaten Clemson. Just a little here and there and we win.

That'd be the same with Bama, with all of them. We want to win the ACC but we also want to win a national title. Imo, we are well-placed to do exactly that.
when we beat clemson and fsu pretty routinely, THEN (and only then) will i root for them to be good to raise the prestige of our conference.
 
For what it's worth we have taken the lead in the crystal ball predictions for Keith Simms with 2 more picks going to UNC.
 
Coach Brewer visited him 12-10. He has to be looking at our offense and thinking about how he would excel in it.
Our offense is much more desirable for him than Auburn due to the Tigers' inability to recruit a good QB. Ole Miss can be electric at times, but NCM has to see that he'd thrive in the Fed Spread, especially with the stable of QB's we have.

Watch his film.....it is incredible. He would be an All-American at Carolina.
 
J C Copeland has been admitted and is good to go. I was wondering why this site didn't show him as a commit. I guess we now stand at 24.
 
You know, I don't agree with that last part. Look at this team this year. They want to compete and frankly could beat anyone in the country, including Bama. Doesn't mean they would as we saw with the loss to Clemson but they could. It's an important distinction in that we could have beaten Clemson. Just a little here and there and we win.

That'd be the same with Bama, with all of them. We want to win the ACC but we also want to win a national title. Imo, we are well-placed to do exactly that.
i agree that this year we might have held our own but we need to do this for more than one year to be compared to bama.
 
i agree that this year we might have held our own but we need to do this for more than one year to be compared to bama.

Well, not comparing our program to Bama. Just that we could compete and perhaps beat them. There will be some years, hopefully, we're better than them.

I wouldn't expect the overall program to field teams as dominant as Alabama year in and year out. But the Gators, for example, were terrible for a very long time and now they've become one of the more elite programs in the past 20-some years.

Something similar can happen at UNC.
 
Meh. Would've been nice for sure, but we have a decent DB haul already the past couple years.

if there are plenty of good corners left then i agree, but if we are getting desperate due to a lack of remaining talent, or forcing guys into positions that don't suit us/them ideally, then I disagree. Cause we need to sign at least 2 corners.

We only return FOUR scholarship corners next yr - hughes, lawrence, corey bell, mj stewart. Fantastic starting lineup, but with the amount of nickel we play we need more than 3 good players. One injury and we've got corey bell or a true frosh getting starters minutes in our nickel packages.
 
if there are plenty of good corners left then i agree, but if we are getting desperate due to a lack of remaining talent, or forcing guys into positions that don't suit us/them ideally, then I disagree. Cause we need to sign at least 2 corners.

We only return FOUR scholarship corners next yr - hughes, lawrence, corey bell, mj stewart. Fantastic starting lineup, but with the amount of nickel we play we need more than 3 good players. One injury and we've got corey bell or a true frosh getting starters minutes in our nickel packages.
We are fine at DB. That's one of our strongest position groups.
 
We are fine at DB. That's one of our strongest position groups.

I'd argue that it is the least deep position on the entire team.

Given the amount of nickel package (3 corners on the field at once), a true frosh is guaranteed to be in the 2-deep for this position group. It is the ONLY position like this on the entire team. Safety might have a true frosh in the 2-deep, but then Allen Artis or Cam Albright could be in it instead. Some noobs will be at other positions but they'll be redshirts.
 
^ I'm just not worried about the back end. Charlton Warren will coach em' up. Now, the front 6/7 in front of them .... THAT still terrifies me.
 
I heard Heels taking a look at(no offer) Connell Young 6' 205 rushing 237 for 2431 , 10.3 per rush and 27 TD's , 40 receptions , 19.3 per catch , 771 yards and 7 TD's for a Greensboro Dudley team that was 13-2 and made it to the state championship game. 3.8 core GPA and 1380 SAT , benches 315 , power cleans 300 and squats 510 and #56 overall prospect in N.C Probably equates to a mid 3*. Great stats and Dudley plays tough competition. ECU and the other team who were the leader have both had coaching turnovers. 4.55 speed. Coach says he is a Frank Gore type loaded with heart.
 
Just watched Nate Craig-Meyers Hudl highlights for this past season....My God this kid is a Grown Man....Reminds me a lot of Sammie Watkins..Speed and maybe more power...If you have not watched it just check it out....If we sign nobody else but him I would be happy....
 
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