The generals here and abroad recommend not doing this, but I guess you know more about it.
Afgan withdraw
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Pulling out rapidly. Creating a situation that Americans soldiers die. Creating a situation in which terrorists bent on blood shed gets enough tech and equipment to wage war equivalent to any nation, Creating a situation in which Christians and occupancy support are murdered in the streets, Creating a situation in which America is weakened in the eyes of the entire world like never before, Creating a situation in which any person with a spread of common sense or 2 brain cells would say WTF!!!
Anyone who remotely take up for Joe at this point deserves the same fate he deserves. Noone is happy about the atrocities happening live before our eyes. This is the politics that has bought, scammed, cheated, canceled, whored, manipulated, racebaited, divided, and deceived their way to the big office. Cutting the head off only makes it worse by 3 layers. I am sick of what this nation that I served under has become. The only saving grace we have is the entire world knows were this level of incompetent action came from. All the threats and posturing that was created by the left over Trump has vanished in thin air. Everyone is gasping at how far we have fallen and we haven't made it to the end of the 1st year yet.
F*ck you, old man. Don’t try to turn this around on me. Your idiot President f*cked this up after you and your idiot liberal brethren have been trying your best to excuse his moronic decision making. No one is getting hard over it. We’re simply eager to point out that the dementia riddled guy you voted for is literally making us the laughing stock of the world like we all k ew he would. And you’re just mad and trying to deflect attention from it by accusing some of us getting hard about service people dying. F*ck you, you old piece of shit. I swear I have a notion to drive down to your crappy, Yadkin Valley General Store and drag your old ass into the parking lot and kick the shit out of you for accusing me of such. You’re the idiot that voted for this moron. You sit there and take everything we’re dishing out, you f*ckin jello-eating, limp-dick piece of shit.
Anyone who defends Joe should be forced to watch the video that was sent to me last night. 2 things in life have pissed me off like that. 911 and seeing that video. Not just simply popping a cap in the back of their head. But continuing to fire till half their head is missing. Anyone who is that evil needs to be stopped. But Ole Joe stands by his decision. He says someone had to make the hard choice. Thanks Joe, our military hasn't had a day of bloodshed like that in a long time. Every life lost due to your mishandling of this cluster is blood on your hands. You could have been playing golf and sipping ensure out your sipping cup, but no.....
I will never be able to forgive anyone who thinks this behavior is acceptable. Anyone who says it's the cost of war. No patriot would ever allow this to happen. It's on the heads of all who pushed the button to vote for this administration. 2 of the sorriest individuals ever ran on the dem ticket the last 2 elections. 1 proven to allow our servicemen to die, and now one who put an entire nation in danger, lost servicemen lives correcting their mistake, and weakened our nation almost beyond repair. Thank God the 1st one didn't get in.
I will never be able to forgive anyone who thinks this behavior is acceptable. Anyone who says it's the cost of war. No patriot would ever allow this to happen. It's on the heads of all who pushed the button to vote for this administration. 2 of the sorriest individuals ever ran on the dem ticket the last 2 elections. 1 proven to allow our servicemen to die, and now one who put an entire nation in danger, lost servicemen lives correcting their mistake, and weakened our nation almost beyond repair. Thank God the 1st one didn't get in.
As someone who served and also knew better than to vote for Clinton or Biden, I resent your statement. You are a despicable person. You and all the Libs who voted for Biden own this shit! You’re just not man enough to admit it. You hated Trump so much that your TDS led you to vote for the guy who will go down as one of the worst Presidents ever. History will remember Trump much more kindly than Bumbling Biden.
It is a cluster, and more tragedy is coming, but i'm curious how this winds up any better under Trump, who actually wanted to leave in May rather than now.
The general's only alternative was long-term occupation and war by surging troops. It was the same thing Bush, Obama fell for.
The wars in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan haven't done much for Americans aside for killing our own troops (and maybe aside for flushing out Bin Laden).
I served also. I was drafted during the Vietnam war, my son retired after 28 years in the Air Force and did 3 tours in the ME. My grandson is with the 82nd Airborne and is on his way to Kuwait as we speak.
DId you serve your country?
If so, you should be ashamed of yourself. You're a typical punk-ass liberal. Bet your pussy-ass couldn't beat your way out of a wet paper bag.
****ing coward.
Well then, thank you, your son, and your grandson for your service. Just because I don’t agree with your politics doesn’t mean I don’t love my country just like you guys. I pray your grandson returns home safely.
Hate is grandson has to go to Kuwait under the leadership of Pedo Joe.
Oh well, at least it aint me.
Good for him. At least he will make it home safely.
Just like social media...if you're telling the truth, you will be silenced.
Orig video he posted to FB. Note he isn't calling out Biden or Trump.
Trump and Biden aren't the ones drawing up evac routes, evaluating logistics. They are making high-level decisions based on info from experts.
Isn’t that the crux of the Afghan fiasco? Biden blatantly ignored the advice of his “expert” advisors. That’s his prerogative as POTUS, but when you do that and things go horribly wrong, you’re responsible for the clusterfork. He’s the Commander In Chief.
I am surprised that Kamala, Pelosi and AOC were able to agree to do a retaliatory strike against ISIS.
So an inept presidents incompetent handling of a problem by inexplicably going against advisors and experts has cost innocent Americans their lives eh? Interesting. Sounds familiar.
This guy is blaming execution on the military. Cuz presidents aren't in the deep details.
Leaving was the right decision. The execution sucking is on everyone, past, pres military and politics, not just current president.
Could it have been done better? Yes, and buck stops w Biden but any president would have met this fate upon withdrawal now or future.
There’s been times I wanted to kick his face in but I have to admit he nailed it here.
great points but this also is what I can't stand about Maher. He makes the case for being conservative and patriotic and then denies and mocks it in the next breath. He's the outstanding example of one who has chosen a stance and then defies all logic...even his own...to maintain it. He opposes conservativism on the aesthetics.
I wish he had pointed out that the tearing up over the flag and the national anthem is BECAUSE many of us understand how utterly ragged the rest of the world is, and how utterly precious is the life we have managed to create against the odds.
yes, but enough about Benghazi
I think he does a good job of pointing out that any time you take a stance of one extreme or another you’re instantly a hypocrite. We’re not a country based on conservative nor liberal values, Capitalist nor socialist, religious nor atheistic. Yet we have half the country constantly claiming we need one extreme or the other it seems.
and that's what I'm saying. He is a hypocrite and I suppose you're right in saying he does an excellent job of pointing that out, even though that isn't his (or your) intention. If you don't want to be a hypocrite, you can't mock and make fun of the things that you fall back on to reign in the clueless of the side you've chosen.
I don’t like him. I think he’s a narcissist and a bully. But I have to ask what side do you think he’s chosen?
Lol criticizing woke-ism is not an argument for conservatism in any way shape or form. Not everyone is dumb enough to reduce politics to the red team vs the blue team. You can criticize both sides without it saying anything about your political allegiances, if you even have them. It's insane to me that someone would actually struggle with this concept.
he's a liberal by his own words. He says other things as well, but you don't have to watch him much in order to conclude that he's left of center.
as usual, you distort/miss the point, which of course isn't surprising given that eggbeater you call a mind. The point isn't that criticizing woke-ism is an argument for conservatism, it's that HIS argument against wokeism invokes those conservative value things that he routinely mocks and makes fun of. I know this is a difficult concept for you, ask any rando walking down the street and maybe they'll help you with it.
Well if he says he is then so
Be it. I don’t lump everyone left of center as liberal nor right of center as conservative. I save those labels for the extremists. I think you can be considered independent on a pretty wide spectrum encompassing both sides of center. But that’s jmo.
