I was literally about to post the Trump tweet. But, I didn't have the follow-up about Gugino.
Sometimes, I think he's looking for the furthest edge to see if he can get the boot and start his own network, like he really wanted in 2016.
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Sometimes, I think he's looking for the furthest edge to see if he can get the boot and start his own network, like he really wanted in 2016.
What I don't get is why does he feel the need to further incite his base. He has those votes already, why wouldn't he try to pick some up from the other side who are damn happy that their 401k's look amazing despite the country being divided?
If you agree with the notion that Trump cares first, second, third about Trump, then his singular thoughts right now are about the election.
It's a zero-sum game.
He doesn't operate like most people, let alone most politicians/presidents. It's literally about RATINGS! He loves attention. His base is irrelevant to him beyond how they can serve his interests. That's the irony of his political career. The people that make up his loyal base are people he would despise and never associate with if he weren't a politician. Of course, you could probably say that about most politicians. But, Mr. Trump resonates with the middle-class white males who have always been oppressed in American society.
Yeah, Trump has done a pretty terrible job with his reaction to this. Might have been better for him to just stay quiet.
I knew it would be at least "considered", but I'm wondering if they finally change them.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/us-army-considering-renaming-bases/index.html
That war goes on and on and on.
I don’t see that making people less racist.
I knew it would be at least "considered", but I'm wondering if they finally change them.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/us-army-considering-renaming-bases/index.html
That war goes on and on and on.
Between that, removing statues and cancelling tv shows we are well on our way to solving our problems.
I knew it would be at least "considered", but I'm wondering if they finally change them.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/us-army-considering-renaming-bases/index.html
That war goes on and on and on.
I didn't think you would.
ditto... I'm not surprised you think that.
You know, maybe you're right. In fact, maybe what we need are MORE Confederate statues... and let's name more buildings and bridges and streets and military bases after people who were fighting to maintain chattel slavery as a perpetual institution in society.
"solving our problems" is a little vague. We will always have problems.
Do you think we need more of those shows that create an instinctive image of black people? And more monuments glorifying the people who were trying to perpetuate the institution of slavery? Will that help solve problems?
Do you think those TV shows do more to help or hurt? Do you think the statues in public places do more to help or hurt?
No one thing will solve it all. But, those things aren't helping.
ETA: So, basically, if doing one or two small things doesn't totally erase the larger problem, let's just keep everything the same and wonder why it doesn't get solved.
I know, right? Why can't he see that encouraging the ongoing disunity will unite us all? No, wait. What?
it does, and with good reason as long as you and a few others continue to spew mind-boggling nonsense.
That’s just one aspect of these men. MLK was a philanderer, but no talks about that. See, it can be done.
Personally I don’t have a hill to die on regarding confederate statues. I walked by silent Sam over 1000 times and never knew or gave a crap what it symbolized. And now that it’s gone I don’t give a crap as well. It seems the majority of Americans find these symbols offensive And want them removed. if so then tear them down. If you want to worship and defend them as “history” go ahead as well. I don’t give a crap. tear them down, piss on them, shit on them, pray to them, I don’t care. They mean nothing to me.
Should be pretty obvious I'm talking about racism.
You're assuming they create an "instinctive image."
No. More will be just as useless as less.
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I doubt you were the only one who didn't know. Which raises the question, what purpose does it serve if no one knows what the memorial is memorializing? It's a great example of how statues cause harm though. Look at how much better race relations are in Chapel Hill now that it's been torn down. It's night and day.
Believe me, and I say this with as much sincerity as I can muster, if you and others of your ilk find what I say to be nonsense then I am PRECISELY, EXACTLY, WITHOUT QUESTION where the FUK I want to be.
I think I already posted in one of these threads... I can't remember now... maybe it was on the Iowa/HROT board. I'm of the opinion that statues to honor people aren't even necessary at all... for ANYONE! I remember now, it was some statue in Britain that was pulled down. There was a statue commemorating some old white dude who made a fortune in the slave trade. But... he contributed heavily to London's churches and schools, etc..
I even used MLK as my example. He was practically a serial adulterer. If you want, you can find "bad things" about everyone! EVERY PERSON has done something(s) that the norms of society don't approve of, and certainly the norms in 100+ years in the future.
Stop naming things after people. If you like something they did, cherish the memory. Live as they lived. Share it with others. We shouldn't need a piece of stone to remind us to be kind to each other.
I don't watch the shows. I don't program the shows. I don't really give a shit about the names of bases, streets, buildings, or the statues, to be frank.
But, I think it's safe to say that those statues that commemorate and glorify slavery MIGHT bother the particular demographic of people whose ancestors suffered immensely from it, and it's just... impolite.
You'd have to be pretty stupid to expect race relations to turn on a dime over removing Confederate statues. But, it will probably help. And, at the very least, it's not there anymore to remind anyone about exactly why they were put there, in case someone takes the time to do that. Because, there's nothing redeeming about it.
I Remember not too long ago when Cracker Barrel and others sold license plates that showed an angry Confederate soldier animated with the caption “forget hell no!” I grew up near Cherokee North Carolina and we would occasionally go over there and visit the god-awful tacky gift shops that were full of confederate toys and gifts. Never understood the connection between American Indian gifts and crafts and the Confederacy.
I have never questioned that and in fact recognized that to be the case as soon as I first saw you posting.. You are in your own self-satisfied little world, wherein you believe your words to be gospel and any words to the contrary are not to be taken seriously. Who needs an open mind when you think you know everything already. Right?
You reminded me of something I was thinking of earlier about how the importance of your cause is dependent on the size of your group. You could say that Indians are/were treated almost as bad as black people, but we don't see any nationwide protests about the Redskins changing their name. Every few years someone will mention it, a couple articles will be written and it will be forgotten in a couple of weeks. But hey, they got casinos.
I have a similar memory... not a Cracker Barrel.
I remember there were welcome center "stores" on I-95 at the NC/VA state line, when we'd go visit my family in VA. And, they used to always have these for sale:
I had at least a half-dozen of them when I was little.
it's impossible to overemphasize how on the money this is. It's just as impossible to make those seeking to be offended understand that the opposite is also true...if you refuse to be offended, you won't be. It's your choice whether to be offended or not. Hurt feelings are generally self-inflicted.
Perfect. This is you agonizing over the fact that you have no intelligent response to anything.
You could say that, but you shouldn't be surprised if people think you're an idiot for thinking it and saying it.
No "minority"- not Irish, not the Chinese, not the Indians, not the Mexicans- were treated "almost as bad" as people of African descent. I'm not saying that those people weren't maligned and treated as sub-humans... they were. But, not "as bad" as African descent people. If you were any of those others, you weren't considered property, codified by law, based on your ethnicity. You weren't held in high regard by European whites, if you were a Red Man. The Red Man were at least allowed to put up a fight, and that actually gained them some respect. Blacks were subjugated in every way imaginable. It's not even close.
Right, the Indians were almost wiped off the earth, but that's no big deal. Sounds like you don't know much about the history then and now.
Read what I wrote. They were maligned. They were almost exterminated, yes. But, they could, at least, fight back, and they did. That's actually the impetus for using names like Redskins, Warriors, Tribe, Warhawks, etc., comes from. To me, therein lies the difference of context between Redskins and Nigggers, when people try and equate them.
We can piddle with semantics, if you like. But, I would much rather have been an Indian than an African slave, if given a choice between the two.
You're right. They let them have a bow and arrow while they were shooting at them with guns, so it's definitely better.
oh but YOU have the open mind huh? Is that what you’re claiming? HAHAHAHA!! GTFOH with that bullshit
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