OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[bluetoe]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6005/text?r=7&s=1

something I forgot to mention in my previous reply to this. Ive been challenged in my contention that women were using abortion as birth control, and the challengers tried to posit that abortions were mostly for failed contraception use and cases of rape, etc. Well, the answer is right here in this bill.

(4) According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, nearly 2⁄3 of women between the ages of 15 and 49 are currently using a contraceptive method.

so 1/3 of women between 15 and 49 are NOT using a contraceptive method. They aren't all sexually active and some of them want to become pregnant, BUT....

5) Although the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention included family planning in its published list of the Ten Great Public Health Achievements in the 20th Century, the United States still has one of the highest rates of unintended pregnancies among industrialized nations.

(6) Each year, approximately 2,800,000 pregnancies, nearly half of all pregnancies, in the United States are unintended.

All of these women did not seek an abortion of course, but you have to know that many of them did. NOW try to convince me that most abortions are sought due to failed contraceptive use. Wrong, It's just as I said, it's due to failure to use a contraceptive. I don't care how Draconian* some think restrictive abortion laws are, if they force the irresponsible to become responsible enough to try to keep from becoming pregnant to begin with instead of relying on the abortion backstop, I am all for them.

*But not to the extreme of greatly endangering the mother or allowing a child with severe birth defects to be born or cases of rape, etc.

 

[uncboy10]

Soooo... I go back to my guessing that a lot of pre-Vatican II Republicans were showing how archaic they could be?

Yeah they just want some religious nutjob to be able to deny a woman birth control at a fukkin pharmacy and be able to get away with it.

All this bill does is force pharmacies to do their damn job and provide women with the medication they need and have prescriptions for. Or at the very least refer them to another pharmacy if they don't have it in stock.

 

[Heels Noir]

I think Heels Noir is basically a conservative, but was told he was a liberal or Democrat or whatever the "other thing" is, for cheer-leading purposes.

Keep 'em guessing.

 

[strummingram]

Yeah they just want some religious nutjob to be able to deny a woman birth control at a fukkin pharmacy and be able to get away with it.

All this bill does is force pharmacies to do their damn job and provide women with the medication they need and have prescriptions for. Or at the very least refer them to another pharmacy if they don't have it in stock.

blasphemy!

 

[uncboy10]

I think there are two issues. Here's one;

(9) The Food and Drug Administration has approved multiple emergency contraceptive methods as safe and effective in preventing unintended pregnancy and has approved over-the-counter access to some forms of emergency contraception for all individuals, regardless of age. If taken soon after unprotected sex or primary contraceptive failure, emergency contraception can significantly reduce a person’s chance of unintended pregnancy.

Drugs used as post-coital methods of birth control are not excluded. In other words, they are abortion drugs.


Another issue is that the Repubs see this as dem politicing, which is highly likely.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...that-would-protect-right-to-use-contraception

"The bill is the latest example of Democrats latching onto their own version of culture war battles to appeal to female, progressive and minority voters by casting the court and Republicans as extremists intent on obliterating rights taken for granted for years."

this is from PBS, mind you, not Fox News.

Those Republicans cast themselves as extremists when they decided to vote against a bill that prevents pharmacies from refusing to give women contraceptives.

If you're going to go as far as suggesting that women shouldn't have the right to use plan B or other contraceptives because they constitute an abortion, then you're an extremist too.

This shit is cut and dry but you have repeatedly proven yourself to be entirely consumed by partisan politics so I'm not surprised you would grasp at imaginary straws and whine about how democrats are evil and republicans just want to save us from the demonic commie abortionists.

 

[bluetoe]

Those Republicans cast themselves as extremists when they decided to vote against a bill that prevents pharmacies from refusing to give women contraceptives.

If you're going to go as far as suggesting that women shouldn't have the right to use plan B or other contraceptives because they constitute an abortion, then you're an extremist too.

This shit is cut and dry but you have repeatedly proven yourself to be entirely consumed by partisan politics so I'm not surprised you would grasp at imaginary straws and whine about how democrats are evil and republicans just want to save us from the demonic commie abortionists.

lol, you're coming unhinged. What I posted is also cut and dry. I identified what I think are possible problems repubs have with the bill, and I quoted the bill itself that you linked to,...and PBS is who supplied the political verbiage. If you think they are extremists, take it up with them. Meanwhile, as I clearly pointed out, abortion type drugs are not excluded in the bill and I think that is probably a catching point with the republicans.

I said nothing about what I supported or did not support. I certainly in no way implied that birth control shouldn't be available to all who desire to avail themselves of it, and as a matter of fact i have been preaching much greater use of it to the extent that I have been criticized for it by the likes of you.

If you're going to have a conniption every time you think someone isn't in lockstep with you, you're going to have a miserable rest of your life. But if it helps and if it isn't too late...OOOOooooohhhhhh, great post uncboy10, you are so spot on with your linkage. Nobody links like you, you are the best ever. No issue with your post at all. Nothing to add nothing to subtract, it is just a work of art.

That better?

 

[bluetoe]

Yeah they just want some religious nutjob to be able to deny a woman birth control at a fukkin pharmacy and be able to get away with it.

All this bill does is force pharmacies to do their damn job and provide women with the medication they need and have prescriptions for. Or at the very least refer them to another pharmacy if they don't have it in stock.

gee, I wonder how many pharmacies are denying birth control sales on religious grounds such that a bill like this is deemed necessary. Thousands and thousands I would guess. If only there were other pharmacies to go to that would sell these items.
Women clamoring all over the place for the contraceptives they crave but are denied, resorting to wrapping rabbit skins around their lovers tallywhacker. Oh, the horror of it all.

Jesus get a grip. There are politics being played here. Just ask strum, he can tell you.

 

[bluetoe]

Keep 'em guessing.

I already figured you out. You're an ass sniffer.

 

[uncboy10]

lol, you're coming unhinged. What I posted is also cut and dry. I identified what I think are possible problems repubs have with the bill, and I quoted the bill itself that you linked to,...and PBS is who supplied the political verbiage. If you think they are extremists, take it up with them. Meanwhile, as I clearly pointed out, abortion type drugs are not excluded in the bill and I think that is probably a catching point with the republicans.

I said nothing about what I supported or did not support. I certainly in no way implied that birth control shouldn't be available to all who desire to avail themselves of it, and as a matter of fact i have been preaching much greater use of it to the extent that I have been criticized for it by the likes of you.

If you're going to have a conniption every time you think someone isn't in lockstep with you, you're going to have a miserable rest of your life. But if it helps and if it isn't too late...OOOOooooohhhhhh, great post uncboy10, you are so spot on with your linkage. Nobody links like you, you are the best ever. No issue with your post at all. Nothing to add nothing to subtract, it is just a work of art.

That better?

Sweetheart, you're the one that feels the need to write a novel every third poast on this thread. I can barely be bothered to drop by long enough to catch up on the latest dumpster fire.

I hope you're okay over there. I'm sorry if my epic Wordle streaks and incredible diction made you feel insecure. It's all love.

 

[strummingram]

Those Republicans cast themselves as extremists when they decided to vote against a bill that prevents pharmacies from refusing to give women contraceptives.

If you're going to go as far as suggesting that women shouldn't have the right to use plan B or other contraceptives because they constitute an abortion, then you're an extremist too.

This shit is cut and dry but you have repeatedly proven yourself to be entirely consumed by partisan politics so I'm not surprised you would grasp at imaginary straws and whine about how democrats are evil and republicans just want to save us from the demonic commie abortionists.

Are you part of "the squad?" Cuz you shore are tawkin' atta'way.

 

[strummingram]

lol, you're coming unhinged. What I posted is also cut and dry. I identified what I think are possible problems repubs have with the bill, and I quoted the bill itself that you linked to,...and PBS is who supplied the political verbiage. If you think they are extremists, take it up with them. Meanwhile, as I clearly pointed out, abortion type drugs are not excluded in the bill and I think that is probably a catching point with the republicans.

I said nothing about what I supported or did not support. I certainly in no way implied that birth control shouldn't be available to all who desire to avail themselves of it, and as a matter of fact i have been preaching much greater use of it to the extent that I have been criticized for it by the likes of you.

If you're going to have a conniption every time you think someone isn't in lockstep with you, you're going to have a miserable rest of your life. But if it helps and if it isn't too late...OOOOooooohhhhhh, great post uncboy10, you are so spot on with your linkage. Nobody links like you, you are the best ever. No issue with your post at all. Nothing to add nothing to subtract, it is just a work of art.

That better?

 

[gteeitup]

he did. Most of them now suffer with TDS.

your pussy was strong like bull i assume…a tremendously strong puss.

that’s why npr was on in your car i guess.

 

[Heels Noir]

I already figured you out.

I doubt you can figure out how to use the TV remote, you crusty old geriatric.

 

[Archer2]

I already figured you out.

Heels Noire is a more appropriate name, he’s soooooo in touch with his feelings. Too bad (s)he doesn’t possess a lick of common sense.

 

[blazers]

Another case of voter fraud, another ballot for Trump.

I swear it feels like the majority of these are by trump-voters.

The Associated Press - Colorado man pleads guilty to casting missing wife's ballot.

Colorado man pleads guilty to casting missing wife's ballot

A Colorado man who had been charged in the presumed death of his missing wife has pleaded guilty to forgery for casting her 2020 election ballot for then-President Donald Trump.

apnews.com

 

[Heels Noir]

Heels Noire is a more appropriate name, he’s soooooo in touch with his feelings.

Call me whatever you want, Archer.

I find it interesting, however, that in the wee hours of the morning -- 3:18 am, to be exact -- I am weighing on your mind. What's the matter, can't sleep because I have you so riled up? And you hark about the former President being on the minds of your so-called "squad of four."

 

[Archer2]

Call me whatever you want, Archer.

I find it interesting, however, that in the wee hours of the morning -- 3:18 am, to be exact -- I am weighing on your mind. What's the matter, can't sleep because I have you so riled up? And you hark about the former President being on the minds of your so-called "squad of four."

Don’t flatter yourself, I’m up at all hours of the night because I haven’t been able to sleep for more than 2-3 hours at a stretch for a decade, then I can’t fall back to sleep easily. So I read a book or check out this site. I’ll give you and the rest of the squad credit for giving the rest of us plenty of posts to laugh about. I actually did you a favor and changed my signature so as not to remind everyone what an ass you are every time I post. Your posts point that out often enough.

 

[Heels Noir]

I’ll give you and the rest of the squad credit for giving the rest of us plenty of posts to laugh about.

This is what is so disturbing. The widespread criticism of Donald Trump only makes you laugh, or else totally disregard it.

We have hearings taking place right now that Trump supporters refuse to watch, not because the hearings are a partisan political witch hunt as Republicans claim, but because they are factual and you guys simply cannot handle the facts.

I think the military should come into your home and force you to witness the carnage Trump created much like they did in German villages with Nazi prison camps following the German defeat in World War II.

 

[Archer2]

I think the military should come into your home and force you to witness the carnage Trump created much like they did in German villages with Nazi prison camps following the German defeat in World War II.

That statement demonstrates why you’re such a sick bastard. I served so sick ****s like you can espouse your drivel. I certainly wouldn’t wish that ^^^ on anyone. But then I’m not a caring, kindhearted Liberal.

 

[gunslingerdick]

We have hearings taking place right now that Trump supporters refuse to watch, not because the hearings are a partisan political witch hunt as Republicans claim, but because they are factual and you guys simply cannot handle the facts.

 

[pooponduke]

You misunderstood or I wasn't clear. The two guys refuting Cassidy were supposed to go refute under oath. And they didn't. They have slinked back into the shadows. Other people UNDER OATH are confirming there was a bunch of heated/irate crap surrounding Trump's need to partake in the attack.

Nobody cares about steering-wheel-grabbing. We care about two things a) Trump himself was urging the attack and wanted to be part of it. b) Cassidy is getting trashed without good cause since people under oath are corroborating the scene she described.

Trying to get caught up. I know the former employee who thought she was going to be part of the staff taken to Mar-a-Lago but wasn't made her allegations against orangeman including her alleged note that was fully refuted by who actually wrote it. And I know of her story (I can't say testimony because that's not what it is when you tell of an event that you didn't witness but were told about it by someone else who didn't witness it but was told about it) about the irate president arguing and grabbing the wheel of the beast (which of course they weren't even using). I also know that reports leaked out in the days that followed that the actual SS agents involved were willing to testify to refute these stories. Based on your representations, it seems other counter leaked stories have emerged. My questions:

You say these SS agents have slinked back into the shadows. Were they actually called by the J6 show producers to testify? If not, why not as they were the actual witnesses? You say others have refuted these SS agents. How can you refute something that hasn't happened? Were other SS agents who witnessed all this called to testify in this week's series finale? If not, then little Cassidy is no better off than she was. I seriously haven't paid attention to the leaks and/or claimed testimony because it's just a waste of time when one side scripts things. As such, if any of this actually happened, I am genuinely asking for update/info.

 

[UNC '92]

This is what is so disturbing. The widespread criticism of Donald Trump only makes you laugh, or else totally disregard it.

We have hearings taking place right now that Trump supporters refuse to watch, not because the hearings are a partisan political witch hunt as Republicans claim, but because they are factual and you guys simply cannot handle the facts.

I think the military should come into your home and force you to witness the carnage Trump created much like they did in German villages with Nazi prison camps following the German defeat in World War II.

 

[Heels Noir]

I’m up at all hours of the night because I haven’t been able to sleep for more than 2-3 hours at a stretch for a decade, then I can’t fall back to sleep easily..

Chronic insomnia is often the result of a guilty conscience. What have you done this time, Arch? Steal from your boss? Cheat on your wife? Or was it something more nefarious?

No wonder you get bent out of shape so easily.

 

[bluetoe]

Trying to get caught up. I know the former employee who thought she was going to be part of the staff taken to Mar-a-Lago but wasn't made her allegations against orangeman including her alleged note that was fully refuted by who actually wrote it. And I know of her story (I can't say testimony because that's not what it is when you tell of an event that you didn't witness but were told about it by someone else who didn't witness it but was told about it) about the irate president arguing and grabbing the wheel of the beast (which of course they weren't even using). I also know that reports leaked out in the days that followed that the actual SS agents involved were willing to testify to refute these stories. Based on your representations, it seems other counter leaked stories have emerged. My questions:

You say these SS agents have slinked back into the shadows. Were they actually called by the J6 show producers to testify? If not, why not as they were the actual witnesses? You say others have refuted these SS agents. How can you refute something that hasn't happened? Were other SS agents who witnessed all this called to testify in this week's series finale? If not, then little Cassidy is no better off than she was. I seriously haven't paid attention to the leaks and/or claimed testimony because it's just a waste of time when one side scripts things. As such, if any of this actually happened, I am genuinely asking for update/info.

These witnesses just decided not to show up, I guess, except for the cop who thinks he saw through tinted windows that Trump was pissed off about something. This is extremely important information as we can't have a president who gets mad and shit. This needs to be verified as the fate of our democracy...or what's left of it after J6...hangs in the balance.

if only the Senate had the power to compel witnesses to come forward and testify.

 

[Archer2]

Chronic insomnia is often the result of a guilty conscience. What have you done this time, Arch? Steal from your boss? Cheat on your wife? Or was it something more nefarious?

No wonder you get bent out of shape so easily.

It can also be the result of two back surgeries, but you continue to show your true character.

 

[Heels Noir]

It can also be the result of two back surgeries, but you continue to show your true character.

Well, I feel awful for not reading your mind and knowing that. I may not be able to sleep tonight.

 

[Archer2]

Well, I feel awful for not reading your mind and knowing that. I may not be able to sleep tonight.

Your posts here show a lack of common sense but what is worse, a lack of compassion. I’ve come to expect nothing less from uber liberals like you.

 

[uncfootball-]

Your posts here show a lack of common sense but what is worse, a lack of compassion. I’ve come to expect nothing less from uber liberals like you.

I agree... only a total waste of a brain stem would not realize that being able to sleep 2-3 hours a night for several years is a medical issue.

 

[uncfootball-]

So I'm watching a video on You Tube about the Indiana guy that used his gun to stop the nut and there is a clip from The View and they are spouting off saying "well the hero actually broke the law by having a gun in the mall" Do those on The View have any idea what is going on in the world?

 

[Archer2]

So I'm watching a video on You Tube about the Indiana guy that used his gun to stop the nut and there is a clip from The View and they are spouting off saying "well the hero actually broke the law by having a gun in the mall" Do those on The View have any idea what is going on in the world?

Is this a trick question? LOL. If you combined their collective IQ’s, you wouldn’t get 100.

 

[pooponduke]

So I'm watching a video on You Tube about the Indiana guy that used his gun to stop the nut and there is a clip from The View and they are spouting off saying "well the hero actually broke the law by having a gun in the mall" Do those on The View have any idea what is going on in the world?

Are they asserting an actual law (statute) or is this just part of the general media narrative to attack any positive use of a firearm? I realize the mall had a standard policy of not allowing firearms, but that doesn't mean that he broke any law.

 

[prlyles]

From another board

Trump recalled a chapter from his presidency when he flew to Iraq on Air Force One to assess the battle against ISIS, and he spoke of how they had to dim the lights on the plane to avoid detection. Trump kept on expressing concern that he couldn’t see the runway, and he recalled “I told my wife how brave I was.” In the end, the landing went fine, so Trump said he asked “how did I do, Captain? Wasn’t I brave? I didn’t think you were gonna land.”
“In fact,” Trump went on, “as president, I wanted to give myself the Congressional Medal of Honor but they wouldn’t let me do it. I’ve always wanted that, but they wouldn’t let me do it. They said that would be inappropriate.” The Medal of Honor is awarded to servicemen in the armed forces who distinguish themselves by going beyond the call of duty and risking their own lives to advance America’s military operations.

Trump Complains That He Couldn’t Give Himself the Congressional Medal of Honor: ‘They Wouldn’t Let Me Do It’​

 

[Archer2]

Breaking news, this just in. Joe Biden is now the POTUS!!!​

Just in case you maroons on the Squad hadn’t heard.

 

[bluetoe]

From another tard

Trump Complains That He Couldn’t Give Himself the Congressional Medal of Honor: ‘They Wouldn’t Let Me Do It’​

FIFY

 

[blazers]

From another board

Trump Complains That He Couldn’t Give Himself the Congressional Medal of Honor: ‘They Wouldn’t Let Me Do It’​

Do 5-time draft dodgers ever get that medal?

 

[prlyles]

Do 5-time draft dodgers ever get that medal?

He’s a disgrace to the men and women who serve our country

 

[uncboy10]

Lol at this point it’s just kind of amusing. If Obama tried to give himself the Medal Of Honor then we’d be hearing about it until 2050 😂

 

[pooponduke]

Do 5-time draft dodgers ever get that medal?

Vietnam, Korea, WW II, WW I, Spanish American?

I know Joe's old, but I didn't think he went back that far.

Seriously though, as with most things, it pays to be privileged. I think it was pretty common for rich, well connected types to receive draft deferments, particularly during Vietnam. Biden received five of them while in school at Delaware and Syracuse. Trump received four while at Penn and a fifth for an alleged problem with bone spurs on his heels. So, at worst, they are tied with five each and I don't see you attacking our current leader on this point.

There are exceptions of course, particularly from our history. However, with most modern day politicians who have only ever been politicians, it's not really a shock that draft deferments were employed. I'm also kinda of surprised this bothers one so tied to the D agenda since it was the libs who were so against that war and Carter pardoned all the dodgers.

 

[bluetoe]

Lol at this point it’s just kind of amusing. If Obama tried to give himself the Medal Of Honor then we’d be hearing about it until 2050 😂

you mean like the totally undeserved Nobel peace prize he received that we talk about every day?

 

[Heels Noir]

Vietnam, Korea, WW II, WW I, Spanish American?

I know Joe's old, but I didn't think he went back that far.

Seriously though, as with most things, it pays to be privileged. I think it was pretty common for rich, well connected types to receive draft deferments, particularly during Vietnam. Biden received five of them while in school at Delaware and Syracuse. Trump received four while at Penn and a fifth for an alleged problem with bone spurs on his heels. So, at worst, they are tied with five each and I don't see you attacking our current leader on this point.

There are exceptions of course, particularly from our history. However, with most modern day politicians who have only ever been politicians, it's not really a shock that draft deferments were employed. I'm also kinda of surprised this bothers one so tied to the D agenda since it was the libs who were so against that war and Carter pardoned all the dodgers.

Okay, if that didn’t tickle your funny bone perhaps this will. It was just over two years ago in March 2020 when Donald Trump declared himself “a wartime President,” at the time having no idea that the COVID-19 pandemic was about to resoundingly defeat him.

Some wartime president.