Take it for what it's worth.
www.newsweek.com
Talking about both and again, I'm not saying it's the only reason. It's just a big unforced error that will cost him votes in the general and primary.
It was mostly about them coming out against his "don't say gay" bill. That's when he started targeting them. Messing with free speech is a big negative for me. No way would I vote for someone who wants to use government to punish people that disagree with them. It's literally one of the main reasons this country was founded. It amazes me that republicans would abandon a core tenant of their beliefs just because they don't like a company. Imagine the uproar from the right if liberal governors started pulling business licenses for Chick-fil-A over the gay marriage issue.
lol. You first acknowledge that it's a complete non-issue, but it's then a problem that Desantis would attack the non-issue? I know you probably have been told to hate and attack Desantis because orange must win the primary for Joe to win reelection, but I hope you can see this contradiction.
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That was my recollection as well. Disney attacked him, so he started looking into and fighting their self rule status that gives them huge advantages over every other business not so designated in Florida. And I am completely on board with you regarding the right to free speech. For example, I'll totally die on the hill defending one's right to burn the flag, even if I think it's an a-hole move.
What's it worth? Essentially nothing. This time two elections ago, Trump was polling in single digits and he became our president. This is the last time to worry about polls and popularity contests. Besides, if you look at the actual poll you cited where only repub's were considered, Desantis had big numbers over Disney. That was before he had announced, before he'd started running ads, before he had his first appearance in Iowa (today) and all the other things that go with running. Not so shockingly with a Newsweek article with old data, headlines can be deceiving.Take it for what it's worth.
Ron DeSantis is losing popularity contest with Disney
Disney has filed a federal lawsuit against the state of Florida accusing DeSantis of trying to "weaponize government power."
I thought this was a parody until I clicked on the link. And honestly, those socks and shoes just do not go with the outfit or character.Where are you getting that going after Disney will cost Ron votes? People hate Disney. Disney is like the capital of Woke right now. People hate woke. Independents are sick of woke, especially the trans flavor. Even the people still wasting their money by taking their toddlers there hate Disney. And if they don't hate Disney, show them this guy:
I bet they hate Disney now.
Disney blasted for allowing mustachioed employee to wear dress, makeup
A viral video shows the mustachioed Fairy Godmother’s Apprentice welcoming a young girl at Disneyland’s Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique in Anaheim, California.
That still doesn't explain how anyone's bluff was called since the GOP got exactly what they had been saying and advocating. But, you do you.
That's why I put it in quotes, but aren't you the guy who said Carlson should be able to say whatever he wanted to? It's fine for him to say anything, but not for Disney to "mischaracterize."
I haven't decided who I'm going to vote for. I know it won't be Trump, Biden or Desantis. I need to hear everyone else's pitch. Then I'll decide.
First, it's not that old and it was widely known he was going to run before his announcement. Second, the reason I posted it was to show how off base you were with your popularity assertions at the moment. We can check back in after a few months if you want to see if independents still like Disney.
Except people don't hate Disney. You're confusing your family and friends with people across the country.Where are you getting that going after Disney will cost Ron votes? People hate Disney. Disney is like the capital of Woke right now. People hate woke. Independents are sick of woke, especially the trans flavor. Even the people still wasting their money by taking their toddlers there hate Disney. And if they don't hate Disney, show them this guy:
I bet they hate Disney now.
Disney blasted for allowing mustachioed employee to wear dress, makeup
A viral video shows the mustachioed Fairy Godmother’s Apprentice welcoming a young girl at Disneyland’s Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique in Anaheim, California.
Yes to Carlson, and if he was factually wrong or mischaracterizing things, it's fair for him to be attacked accordingly by you or anyone else. Disney is no different. Carlson has suffered the backlash, so why isn't Disney fair game as well? If you wade into the waters, you can't complain about being bitten by what lurks unseen below. Disney picked a fight with a very popular governor when they could have just kept entertaining, doing their their thing on the sidelines, and stayed out of politics. They don't get to have it both ways.
It was conducted between April 20th and 24th, which is light years old at this point in the campaign season when a single tweet can kill someone's popularity (but I get your point that it wasn't from, say, six months ago). Secondly, it was done in an opt-in online method which naturally skews to a younger, more social media influenced voter pool - not to mentioned those choosing to participate likely tend to have more activist tendencies. That's versus the middle of the road people I thought we were talking about - you know, the type who immediately ignore an ad, delete an email, hang up their phone or politely shut their doors when they realize it's about a poll or politics. I stand by the position that's it's essentially worth nothing.
It is two entirely different issues. One is Disney's behavior/stance, the other is Ron's behavior/stance. The latter is a fundamental problem to people who believe in 1st Amendment, less intrusive government, etc.
True, but all they need to know is he F'd with disney over free speech and is getting his ass kicked.
They don't need to be fully informed, they just need to know the one-line above, and all Ron's critics are going to make this widely known.
But that's just it. You hide behind the 1st Amend. because you agree with the lie. Have you even read the actual law or just the catchy jingle? So, Disney gets to throw up the 1st A claiming they can say whatever they want, but it's somehow not covered by the 1st A when they are challenged by someone for their false claims? The beauty of the 1st A is that it covers both sides to make idiots of themselves.
But he didn't F "with disney over free speech". He is f'ing with them over false speech. Countering the narrative and the mischaracterization that you push and so freely buy into is the constant challenge that he or any middle to right candidate combats. An informed voter is your greatest nightmare.
TELLING his supporters to stay home and those actually staying home are 2 different things.
Apparently the Disney situation is bigger than organizing and leading an insurrection, being impeached twice, calling fraud over election results, being in a circle jerk with Putin, terrible health policy over covid, being a pig towards women, paying off an affair to keep quiet, and letting prostitutes pee on you. Note to Ron: don't ever admit publicly that you've been to Universal more than Disney.
it's starting to look like the Libtards are TERRIFIED of Ronny D. and i dont blame them. he would win the GE, is more Conservative than Trump AND actually has done the things he said he would do as FL Gov. scary indeed!
I'm not pushing it, Trump will be and everyone anti-desantis will be. Call it "false speech" or "free speech" or whatever you want. Ron went after them because they criticized a bill and it it could be a national courts issue.
No, and neither have most of the "middle voters". That's just it!
no he isn't. I think YOU are confusing affected local Floridians with the country at large.
my take as well
I'd be shocked if 80% could articulate any issue beyond 'that good' and 'that bad', and even those articulations would be based on a vague general sense that would arise from having half-heard something from here and there, and of course what side of the fence one is on.
Local Floridians? Which ones? The diversity in a state like Florida is pretty vast. Northern Florida, undereducated white people? They consume confirmation bias from talk radio and TV news that just reinforce their biases. They're in pockets all over the state, just like most states. Rural versus city mindsets, and there are miniscule numbers in reverse. Trumpism has created yet another outlet for antiquated fear. Yay!
wonderful news! DeSantis 2024 😎
Jeezus, dude. It just means that the people who care the most about this are in Florida, and not all over the country. How can that simple idea become in your mind the looney tune you just posted?
antiquated fear? I guess fearing antiquated fears is more modern than fearing modern idiocy like wherever it is you're coming from. LMAO
what is a crystalized white person, and who said there aren't a helluva lot of Floridians who don't give a shit about whatever it is they don't give a shit about? People who don't give a shit about whatever it is they don't give a shit about are very common everywhere. All I said was that the ones who do care about Desantis vs. Disney are mostly in Florida and not so much across the country. Across the country, the undecideds who care may not take Disney's side as much as suggested, IMO.
"Affected" local Floridians will somehow manage, I'm sure. They've got a shotgun, rifle, and a four-wheel drive, they can skin a buck and run a trout line.
Are we surprised at all about any this classified doc stuff? That he took the docs, hid the truth and lied about them, obstructed recovery and fact-finding, and failed to do what his attorneys recommended?
His strongest chance is Trump's self-destructive tendencies. Is Rob gonna take off the gloves or does he need worry about permanently pissing off maga?
and how he had classified docs stashed in a box next to the Vette in the garage. No, wait, that was......different.
and they have those voice-activated trotlines. I hear they're all the rage down there.
