School bathroom decree ...
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As you can see this case was being made three weeks ago and more, and you even participated directly in that specific aspect of the discussion. So your current claim to the contrary is quite simply a lie. You can try to take it back or double down, I don't care. It's right there for everyone to see.
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It's a shame that Obama and the Feds made their move because that just makes this politicized issue even more politicized. Now, the "left" will praise Obama and try to take credit for something. And, their opposition will be even more resentful of it.
every time I think your idiocy has peaked you prove me wrong and reach a new level.
First off, no matter what else is ion that bill, the Obama White House has made this all about bathrooms. So this chatter about what else is in the bill is not the topic nor should it be. This to me a very clear abuse of power by the sitting president, it is a heavy handed tactic that directly effects children's privacy and flys in the face of common sense. Most parents would have a problem with their son or daughter taking a shower and someone of another sex steps in and begins to shower next to them and do not need the federal government telling them there is nothing to worry about there?
No, this isn't really about showers and bath rooms, that much I will grant, this is very much about the federal government exerting its power over states rights to pass laws. This is the government going in to a place I never thought even they would venture, felt to many folks would have enough common sense to not allow the federal government to effect who can be in the room when your child needs to use the toilet. But yet again, Obama shows me a new low, just when I didn't think the man could sink to any lower depth he shows us all he can.
Mr Anti-Bully is bullying the state of NC and many just don't seem to care? REALLY? The left wants to call Donald Trump a bully but he is not close to the level of bully Obama has shown himself to be...I can not believe we are to the point where a national discussion of bathrooms is even held, much less forced on us. Do people really want to give up their privacy to this extent, I sure don't but seems to me many just don't care if theyhave any right to privacy left at all. Sad sad state this country is in, yet again, politically correctness run amuk!
No, this isn't really about showers and bath rooms, that much I will grant, this is very much about the federal government exerting its power over states rights to pass laws. This is the government going in to a place I never thought even they would venture, felt to many folks would have enough common sense to not allow the federal government to effect who can be in the room when your child needs to use the toilet. But yet again, Obama shows me a new low, just when I didn't think the man could sink to any lower depth he shows us all he can.
Mr Anti-Bully is bullying the state of NC and many just don't seem to care? REALLY? The left wants to call Donald Trump a bully but he is not close to the level of bully Obama has shown himself to be...I can not believe we are to the point where a national discussion of bathrooms is even held, much less forced on us. Do people really want to give up their privacy to this extent, I sure don't but seems to me many just don't care if theyhave any right to privacy left at all. Sad sad state this country is in, yet again, politically correctness run amuk!
Strum actually makes a lot of sense here. I think we have forgot what "rights" actually are and have confused it with what some believe as "being right," which is subjective. Being uncomfortable with something does not remove your rights just because you don't think said issue is not morally right to you.
For one thing, while I am not a fan of Obama (or the left/right insanity), I do not think he said all schools will now have unisex bathrooms and guys can use the girls restroom if they want to. I believe he said people who are living as the opposite gender from which they were born are allowed to use the one with which they identify. Now I agree there will be some dimwits who will try taking advantage of that but I'm sure because this issue is so highly contested, there will be adults keeping a closer eye now to prevent that from happening. But like I've said before, it has been happening for many, many years now. Men have been coming in there on women for a long time now. Those men have problems and we need to teach our daughters how to protect themselves when it happens just like I did 25 years ago.
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I hope I get to meet your family some day.
It's even more political than I thought possible. Politics is such an impediment to the advancement of human society.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/nor...-battle-heres-what-sparked-it-and-whats-next/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/nor...-battle-heres-what-sparked-it-and-whats-next/
It didn't say why Charlotte passed the ordinance. That's what I want to know, because that's what started this. HB2 didn't start this problem, it just made it worse.
1 - Again, this isn't about kids that are honestly transgender (what-ever-the-f*ck that is anyway). This is about a bunch of middle school boys, clowning around and claiming they are transgender so they can go into the girls bathroom to be funny or to cause some girls to feel uncomfortable. I don't know why some of y'all won't admit that this enables that exact thing.
2 - "It is just baffling to me that this is an issue. It seriously is not going to affect ANYONE except a ridiculously tiny slice of the population who feel so strongly about their gender identity that they're willing to go through pure hell to be able to be themselves" - Please. Transies can be exactly who they are. But that's not good enough for them. They want to be who they are, they want to make it well known to everyone who they are and they want you to be ok with who they are. And in the event you're not ok with who they are, they want you to eat shit and die. Maybe the transies themselves don't want that - maybe it's the non-transy idiot liberals that want all that.
Right. But liberals don't want to face the real problems because the addressing the real problems in this country get you called a bigot. Just ask Trump. They'd rather waste their time on making sure that everyone that has ever been seen as different gets some special treatment and the opportunity to tell traditional America to f*ck off.
Is there anyone else in there? That would determine how I feel. If yes, then I'm totally appalled. If no one is looking, I might break her off a little something.
I care because of how stupid and backward it makes our state look.
Great poast. Tremendous poast. I love it.
They are by the very definition - abnormal. Deviant is another word that is appropriate. Because both words mean "deviating from the norm". Being that transgender is not "the norm", transgender is "abnormal". Even someone with your desire to be argumentative cannot argue with the English language.
yep, you guys are all correct! Apparently, there are some really sick minded men that want nothing more than to share the bathroom with women. Piss on my toilet seat though and I will hunt you down and feed you your own jewels!
First of all, I think the poaster you're responding to is so full of shit and doesn't even believe the shit he spews himself. But he's sucked you in like he has me in the past and you're probably going to want to kill yourself for even opening the door you have. Good luck.
Wait...that's the argument? I thought it was we are all one being. How can he argue that we are all different while simultaneously arguing that we are all one?
That asshole never misses an opportunity to put himself front and center.
As I said, The only people that are remotely being offended, or bothered, by this are people that believe transgenders are defective, or wrong, or abnormal. They're fewer in number, sure.
I love arguing about language.
Furthermore, how can you say they are abnormal? God created all of us and is in ALL of us, some just fail to recognize it though. Maybe you don't believe in God though. I just assume you do, so forgive me if I am mistaken.
I believe in God.
I agree that God is in all of us.
I did not say anyone was lesser. Just different...or "abnormal".
We have a language. Words in our language have definitions. I did not write the language or give these words their definitions. That was done before I was around. However, I do subscribe to and support the English language.
For those of you who believe transgender is abnormal, do you believe they deserve the condemnation they get now? Do they deserve to be treated unfairly or as less of a human being? do you also believe that a person born a hermaphrodite is abnormal? Do they deserve this treatment as well? Someone with mental retardation? Someone born with a severe physical anomaly is "abnormal" so what about that person? We are all different in some way. I could say you all are abnormal for the way you think because I truly am of the opinion that some of you are just wayyyyy out there in your beliefs but I respect you nonetheless and care for your wellbeing anyway. We have to learn to just simply respect and love everyone, period. We are never going to agree with everyone's way of living but we can respect each one and give the due respect we all deserve from one another. It's not hard to do.
They are abnormal. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Their lifestyle deviates from the norm - therefore, it's abnormal. We've already gone over this. You and a few others are the ones putting the negative connotation to the word abnormal. I am not. But they are indeed abnormal. You cannot argue with the English language.
Of what condemnation do you speak? I'm not sure I've seen transgender people take any more of a beating than any other type of person - whites, blacks, gays, Christians, muslims, heterosexuals, latinos, etc.
Of course not. Has anyone made the case that they do? Simply recognizing them as different isn't "treating them unfairly". I know that's what the liberals have been telling you but it's not true.
I'd have to check the numbers, but if people being born as such is not the majority of people, then yes, by definition, it is abnormal. Again, no one is saying that's bad. It simply deviates from "the norm".
Yes, we are all different. You could say I'm "abnormal". And I wouldn't give a f*ck. Just like you shouldn't give a f*ck if I say you're abnormal. And gays shouldn't give a f*ck if someone else calls them "abnormal". Transies shouldn't give a f*ck if anyone else considers them "abnormal". You have every right to be whatever you want to be. And I have every right to view it as "abnormal" - especially if meets the true definition of abnormal which is deviating from the norm.
I'm not real concerned what a bunch of liberal sheeple think of Obama. I expected that. Plus, if you don't give him a good approval rating, you're a racist bigot. I know in my household, his approval rating is shit - 0%. That's the approval rating I care about.
#thankgodit'salmostover
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The moon turning to blue cheese would make a lot of difference or do you not understand the moon's interaction with the earth..
again you have topped yourself. and all along I was thinking we had evolved from a bartering economy.
seriously? I knew the definition of the word. I meant when you are referring to people because you say transgender is abnormal. I say it is just simply different. They all have heartbeats, breathe, etc. like us "normal people" so what is normal in terms of "normal people?"
Also, the condemnation they encounter is something you obviously have no idea about. I personally know people who are homosexuals, some really good friends, and one of my daughters is and I KNEW when she was just a young toddler she was going to grow up homosexual and her twin would not. There was a significant difference that I noticed and it was not anything that we even talked about in the home, I just allowed her to be who SHE IS, who God created her to be. I have two homosexual men that are so helpful to me and loving to me and my family and I see nothing abnormal about them. They have a better loving relationship than I have ever had before. All couples should love each other like they love each other with the respect they have for each other. I'm sometimes jealous of it! Men have used and abused me until I no longer want one to even touch me now. Maybe you should meet a few TG and homosexuals and really get to know them. You may see things differently (not specifically YOU gunslinger... but anyone who thinks it is a problem.)
Obama.... that is an entirely different issue. He has been in 8 years. I did not vote for him but I can honestly say my income has definitely gone up since he has been in office. Bush just about put me in bankruptcy with this one executive order he signed, so while I don't agree with everything Obama has done, I think overall he has brought up the numbers as far as employment, etc. I do know that while the president really does not have much to do with the price of gas, it did come down in his term and at the end of the Bush term it was over $4.00 a gallon. The national debt... don't even bother... that perpetually goes up no matter who is in office.
I don't believe the poll was conducted amongst only liberals, however, I do understand your lifelong hatred of anyone with a 'D' beside their name. IIRC, Trump was one of those 'D' folks for a long time . . hell, for all that the RNC knows, he might still be one.
Maybe to win a POTUS election, it appears to me that the republican sheeple just fell in line behind 'The Donald' . .
Little Marco, low energy Jeb, Lying Ted, that fall asleep surgeon whatshisname, Kasich, Perry, Christie(Huggy Bear), Huckabee and Paul . . . lifelong Pubs that couldn't beat a former 'D' . . you see, someone had to bring some life to the party. It was probably smart of your party to look to the left as those homegrown 'Rs' just sucked.
#nootheralternative
Oh it's so cute to make inane remarks like that. The American College of Pediatricians urges educators and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as "normal" a life of chemical and social impersonation of the opposite sex. Facts-not ideology-determine reality. They also state: A person's belief that he or she is something they are not is , at best , a sign of confused thinking. rates of suicide are 20x greater among adults who use cross sex hormones or undergo sex reassignment surgery. Of course the libtards on the left will just label the ACOP as a hate group.Normal is only a cycle on the washing machine
Libtards.... gotta love that one, never gets old... and you are making fun of my cute inane remark about "normal"... yeah, got it.
Well, I can assure you I did absolutely NOTHING to make my daughter think she was not a female, in fact, I see her as female then and now but she WAS and IS different. She does not want to have sex reassignment surgery but she is a bit on the "boyish" side and is homosexual. I knew when she was small she was different and I did not force anything on her. When she went through a few years of her believing "she was really a male inside" I allowed her to think whatever she wanted to. She is 24 now and does not want to change her body but she does live differently than her identical twin sister. I did my part by loving her and accepting her as she is. While the ACOP may put that statement out, that does not mean it is being followed. I am in the medical field. Policies come and go.... doctors treat patients with respect regardless. Every kind of human being you can imagine comes through the medical care systems and I have worked up things that would make your toes curl. You will soon find that belief of it being confused thinking changing.
Oh and since you think I am a Libtard... I guess I need to get rid of the guns and support abortion now.....pffftttt geez... I am neither libtard or conservative stick up my arse right wing. I am an American and I care about people and believe it is okay to be different from "normal." I abhor political correctness and think the country is full of over-sensitive people but I believe in each doing their own thing and not having anyone tell them they are wrong for doing it, unless it is harming someone personally. Lately, "Normal" is turning into "nutty" in my opinion.
Not even sure what you are rambling about. 1st I know a lot of homosexuals and not a single one wants to use the bathroom that doesn't pertain to his/her equipment. 2nd you knew your child was going to be a homosexual as a toddler? I seriously doubt it. You may look back now and say ah hah but knowing it No. 3rd Gas prices going down is a huge failure of Obama's presidency. He has done everything to achieve the opposite. 4th. You are making more money? Maybe but nationally wages are stagnant. .
You asked what "normal" meant. I provided the definition. That's what normal is to me - the exact definition. Why would it be anything else? To further answer your question, "normal people" are those that are like the majority. If all of a sudden there were a few people that sprung up that could breathe underwater, they would classified by me as "abnormal". If there were people that can shoot laser beams out of their eyes, that too would be considered abnormal because most people cannot shoot laser beams from their eyes. It's really pretty simple. Follow the definition of the word, and you'll nail it every time.
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I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS OR TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE. But with that said, by definition, they are abnormal. Why is that hard to understand? I know plenty of gay people so thanks for the opportunity to meet more, but I'm fine knowing the ones I do. If I happen to meet another gay person in the future (which I'm sure will happen), I plan to make my decision on whether I like them or not based on what transpires when we meet. But whatever happens and whether I end up liking that gay person or not, I'll still consider them abnormal...because they are. Not bad. Not good. Just abnormal. Same goes for transgendered people.
Weird. My net income has gone down. But that's hardly the issue I have with him. I hate how arrogant he is. I hate that he acts like he's been a good President. I hate his smartalec responses to reporters that challenge him. I hate how he feels he always has to insert himself in anything racial. I hate how it appears to me that he stands for anything that is against "traditional America". And it appears he delights in taking shots at traditional Americans. He makes rash decisions to comment on racial issues and then never has to answer to the egg on his face (remember build-a-clock muslim boy that turned out to be a fraud, yet Obama never admitted to jumping the gun on inviting the fraud to the white house). He is a tone setter in national conversations and has never used that power correctly. He's been an absolute asshole about the way police are treated, he's made excuses for domestic terrorist organizations such as Black Lives Matter and he's shown no conviction at all as he once campaigned that marriage is between a man and a woman and now he's seen as a savior to the LGBT community. I detest the guy, would love to fist fight him and will be thrilled when he and his manwife are out of the white house.
Brought up the numbers on unemployment? Bwahahahaha. People have left the job market. Instead of unemployment numbers, have a look at people receiving government assistance. Much more telling.
Thanks for making one of my points for me. According to the DSM-V 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty. Congrats on not interfering with that.Libtards.... gotta love that one, never gets old... and you are making fun of my cute inane remark about "normal"... yeah, got it.
While the ACOP may put that statement out, that does not mean it is being followed. I am in the medical field. Policies come and go.... doctors treat patients with respect regardless. Every kind of human being you can imagine comes through the medical care systems and I have worked up things that would make your toes curl. You will soon find that belief of it being confused thinking changing.
Oh and since you think I am a Libtard... I guess I need to get rid of the guns and support abortion now.....pffftttt geez... I am neither libtard or conservative stick up my arse right wing. I am an American and I care about people and believe it is okay to be different from "normal." I abhor political correctness and think the country is full of over-sensitive people but I believe in each doing their own thing and not having anyone tell them they are wrong for doing it, unless it is harming someone personally. Lately, "Normal" is turning into "nutty" in my opinion.
