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Not even sure what you are rambling about. 1st I know a lot of homosexuals and not a single one wants to use the bathroom that doesn't pertain to his/her equipment. 2nd you knew your child was going to be a homosexual as a toddler? I seriously doubt it. You may look back now and say ah hah but knowing it No. 3rd Gas prices going down is a huge failure of Obama's presidency. He has done everything to achieve the opposite. 4th. You are making more money? Maybe but nationally wages are stagnant. .

The bathroom issue is ridiculous anyway and I think many are confused on it but whatever... pervs will still be pervs either way, always have been.

While I have no way to prove to you that I knew my 3 year old was homosexual despite nothing "sexual" happening to make me think that, I did tell my super religious right-wing, vote republican/Jesus or die sister that I felt that way back then and she just rolled her eyes at me... now she sees what I was talking about! I admit I am different. I just see things sometimes. I wrote a note to my family when I was 12 that I would have identical twin girls age 5 in 1997 and I did.. I just know things sometimes. I don't like it but it happens. I KNEW this! sorry to burst your bubble about that! (as if you care).

I'm not sure about the gas prices being a failure but I am sure you will explain it. We are going to have worse soon with Hillary so get ready! I am not happy about that either.
 
You asked what "normal" meant. I provided the definition. That's what normal is to me - the exact definition. Why would it be anything else? To further answer your question, "normal people" are those that are like the majority. If all of a sudden there were a few people that sprung up that could breathe underwater, they would classified by me as "abnormal". If there were people that can shoot laser beams out of their eyes, that too would be considered abnormal because most people cannot shoot laser beams from their eyes. It's really pretty simple. Follow the definition of the word, and you'll nail it every time.



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I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS OR TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE. But with that said, by definition, they are abnormal. Why is that hard to understand? I know plenty of gay people so thanks for the opportunity to meet more, but I'm fine knowing the ones I do. If I happen to meet another gay person in the future (which I'm sure will happen), I plan to make my decision on whether I like them or not based on what transpires when we meet. But whatever happens and whether I end up liking that gay person or not, I'll still consider them abnormal...because they are. Not bad. Not good. Just abnormal. Same goes for transgendered people.



Weird. My income has gone down. But that's hardly the issue I have with him. I hate how arrogant he is. I hate that he acts like he's been a good President. I hate his smartalec responses to reporters that challenge him. I hate how he feels he always has to insert himself in anything racial. I hate how it appears to me that he stands for anything that is against "traditional America". And it appears he delights in taking shots at traditional Americans. He makes rash decisions to comment on racial issues and then never has to answer to the egg on his face (remember build-a-clock muslim boy that turned out to be a fraud, yet Obama never admitted to jumping the gun on inviting the fraud to the white house). He is a tone setter in national conversations and has never used that power correctly. He's been an absolute asshole about the way police are treated, he's made excuses for domestic terrorist organizations such as Black Lives Matter and he's shown no conviction at all as he once campaigned that marriage is between a man and a woman and now he's seen as a savior to the LGBT community. I detest the guy, would love to fist fight him and will be thrilled when he and his manwife are out of the white house.

Brought up the numbers on unemployment? Bwahahahaha. People have left the job market. Instead of unemployment numbers, have a look at people receiving government assistance. Much more telling.
Stop reading my mind on my feelings about Obama.
 
Thanks for making one of my points for me. According to the DSM-V 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty. Congrats on not interfering with that.

Yes, you're right BUT some really are not confused and DO feel that way. SOME DO.
 
I hate how arrogant he is. I hate his smartalec responses to reporters that challenge him. I hate how he feels he always has to insert himself in anything racial. I hate how it appears to me that he stands for anything that is against "traditional America". And it appears he delights in taking shots at traditional Americans. He makes rash decisions to comment

Well then you obviously are not supporting Trump either LOL
 
I don't believe the poll was conducted amongst only liberals, however, I do understand your lifelong hatred of anyone with a 'D' beside their name. IIRC, Trump was one of those 'D' folks for a long time . . hell, for all that the RNC knows, he might still be one.

Maybe to win a POTUS election, it appears to me that the republican sheeple just fell in line behind 'The Donald' . .

Little Marco, low energy Jeb, Lying Ted, that fall asleep surgeon whatshisname, Kasich, Perry, Christie(Huggy Bear), Huckabee and Paul . . . lifelong Pubs that couldn't beat a former 'D' . . you see, someone had to bring some life to the party. It was probably smart of your party to look to the left as those homegrown 'Rs' just sucked.

#nootheralternative

Please, do not refer to the GOP as "your" party. They are not my party. However, you are indeed correct that I have a life long hatred for the democratic party. That is 100% true.

Donald Trump is an abrasive, unqualified jerk. But if he starts taking our massive immigration problem seriously and also sends the message that we aren't a muslim refugee safe haven, then I'm ok with whatever the f*ck he wants to call himself or whatever you want to call him. Lower taxes, tell the liberals to shut up about guns, put people back to work in the private sector, dismantle Black Lives Matter, take down ISIS (and don't be afraid to call them radical muslim terrorists), and tell people to back off of Christians, and hell, I'll even call him whatever you want me to call him.
 
The bathroom issue is ridiculous anyway and I think many are confused on it but whatever... pervs will still be pervs either way, always have been.

While I have no way to prove to you that I knew my 3 year old was homosexual despite nothing "sexual" happening to make me think that, I did tell my super religious right-wing, vote republican/Jesus or die sister that I felt that way back then and she just rolled her eyes at me... now she sees what I was talking about! I admit I am different. I just see things sometimes. I wrote a note to my family when I was 12 that I would have identical twin girls age 5 in 1997 and I did.. I just know things sometimes. I don't like it but it happens. I KNEW this! sorry to burst your bubble about that! (as if you care).

I'm not sure about the gas prices being a failure but I am sure you will explain it. We are going to have worse soon with Hillary so get ready! I am not happy about that either.
For the record I said libtards will say the ACOP is a hate group. Unless you think the ACOP is a hate group then I didn't call you a libtard. Now Billy L is a different story.
 
Normal is only a cycle on the washing machine ;);)o_O
Of course you would bring up a washing machine since you are a woman. After you are done washing my clothes, go fix me a sandwich. ;)

jmhho here, but, maybe he should be front and center . . its what leaders do right . . ?
No, leaders lead. They make the decisions that are in the best interest of their followers.

Little Marco, low energy Jeb, Lying Ted, that fall asleep surgeon whatshisname, Kasich, Perry, Christie(Huggy Bear), Huckabee and Paul
This was the biggest reason Trump made it as far as he did. The GOP allowed too many people to stay in the race far too long. When you have multiple candidates that are the same you split the vote and the one that is different, Trump, benefits. Rubio, Kasich and Bush were essentially the same candidate. Cruz and Huckabee were the same. Christie was similar to Trump, but the establishment is so hated right now he didn't have a chance.
 
Of course you would bring up a washing machine since you are a woman. After you are done washing my clothes, go fix me a sandwich. ;)

Actually that is something we use in the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI), of which I have worked with and is taught in the classes about calling people "normal" or "abnormal." There is no such thing as "normal" when it comes to people. and babe, you have not earned that sandwich yet hehe:p
 
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I admit I am different. I just see things sometimes. I wrote a note to my family when I was 12 that I would have identical twin girls age 5 in 1997 and I did.. I just know things sometimes.
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Thanks for making one of my points for me. According to the DSM-V 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty. Congrats on not interfering with that.

Strong.
 
The bathroom issue is ridiculous anyway and I think many are confused on it but whatever... pervs will still be pervs either way, always have been.

While I have no way to prove to you that I knew my 3 year old was homosexual despite nothing "sexual" happening to make me think that, I did tell my super religious right-wing, vote republican/Jesus or die sister that I felt that way back then and she just rolled her eyes at me... now she sees what I was talking about! I admit I am different. I just see things sometimes. I wrote a note to my family when I was 12 that I would have identical twin girls age 5 in 1997 and I did.. I just know things sometimes. I don't like it but it happens. I KNEW this! sorry to burst your bubble about that! (as if you care).

I'm not sure about the gas prices being a failure but I am sure you will explain it. We are going to have worse soon with Hillary so get ready! I am not happy about that either.

Would you call your gift of being able to see the future normal or abnormal?
 
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again you have topped yourself. and all along I was thinking we had evolved from a bartering economy.
No... not bartering. A resource-based society is basically a society that shares instinctively. Monetary-based creates people competing for what is available and that creates the illusion that there is "not enough." There is more than enough.
 
Would you call your gift of being able to see the future normal or abnormal?

Actually, I believe everyone has the ability to KNOW things... we all have an intuition which I believe is our soul/God speaking to us. Most just ignore it though. Now, some of the really, really bizarre things I have seen that I am not sure you guys want to hear about anyway, I cannot explain those and maybe that part is abnormal. I doubt the majority would experience this type of knowing/dreams in exact details that I have had. It's not something I like to happen when it does, trust me.
 
No one here is lacking the word "abnormal" from their vocabulary.

However, some are displaying a challenge with the context in which it is being used. TG people are different, they're not defective. "Abnormal" really isn't an appropriate word in the discussion. It's actually a condition that most here don't understand or have experience with directly, so they react like we all do when we encounter things we don't understand-- we feel threatened by them.

Transgenders, as a whole, mean no one any harm. They certainly don't want children to be violated sexually. If you want to view TG/TS as abnormal, then look at them as being handicapped, or as you view crippled people, who need special circumstances. If it means we all have to step-up our game and be on the look-out for sexual predators MORE, then we do that! If we all agree that we have no ill will toward TS/TG people, and we are willing to accept them as being different, but still one of us, then we should do it. They'll help with trying to protect the rest of us from sexual predators, too! If the real threat is still the sexual predators, then we just need to be more aware of their presence and be more "on the look out."
 
No one here is lacking the word "abnormal" from their vocabulary.

However, some are displaying a challenge with the context in which it is being used. TG people are different, they're not defective. "Abnormal" really isn't an appropriate word in the discussion. It's actually a condition that most here don't understand or have experience with directly, so they react like we all do when we encounter things we don't understand-- we feel threatened by them.

Transgenders, as a whole, mean no one any harm. They certainly don't want children to be violated sexually. If you want to view TG/TS as abnormal, then look at them as being handicapped, or as you view crippled people, who need special circumstances. If it means we all have to step-up our game and be on the look-out for sexual predators MORE, then we do that! If we all agree that we have no ill will toward TS/TG people, and we are willing to accept them as being different, but still one of us, then we should do it. They'll help with trying to protect the rest of us from sexual predators, too! If the real threat is still the sexual predators, then we just need to be more aware of their presence and be more "on the look out."

AMEN!!!!!! Perfectly said! Thank you!
 
No one here is lacking the word "abnormal" from their vocabulary.

However, some are displaying a challenge with the context in which it is being used. TG people are different, they're not defective. "Abnormal" really isn't an appropriate word in the discussion. It's actually a condition that most here don't understand or have experience with directly, so they react like we all do when we encounter things we don't understand-- we feel threatened by them.

Transgenders, as a whole, mean no one any harm. They certainly don't want children to be violated sexually. If you want to view TG/TS as abnormal, then look at them as being handicapped, or as you view crippled people, who need special circumstances. ."

Hahahaha. In your effort to chastise some of us for calling transies abnormal, I feel like you said something infinitely more offensive.

If it means we all have to step-up our game and be on the look-out for sexual predators MORE, then we do that! If we all agree that we have no ill will toward TS/TG people, and we are willing to accept them as being different, but still one of us, then we should do it. They'll help with trying to protect the rest of us from sexual predators, too! If the real threat is still the sexual predators, then we just need to be more aware of their presence and be more "on the look out."

Can I suggest a way for them to help? They can tell people that we don't need to discuss the issues of transies anymore. They can tell people that they're perfectly happy being a transgender person but we do not need to have conversations about where they use the bathroom. They can help by silencing the liberals that want to force those discussions.
 
Hahahaha. In your effort to chastise some of us for calling transies abnormal, I feel like you said something infinitely more offensive.
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That's fine. I know I'm capable of offending people.


Can I suggest a way for them to help? They can tell people that we don't need to discuss the issues of transies anymore. They can tell people that they're perfectly happy being a transgender person but we do not need to have conversations about where they use the bathroom. They can help by silencing the liberals that want to force those discussions.
I don't know that they ever asked for politicians to get involved and start their usual game of playing favorites to pander to their weak followers. You should probably ask them directly. Take a week off from your political devotionals and speak to a few, in person.

There is no such thing as a "liberal" or "conservative" either. They're about as real as Santa Claus. Actually, Santa Claus is probably more real. He is, at least, more definitive. As long as you adhere to your fear of "everything liberal", you'll have the same quality of life you have now. From what you've described in these political threads, and the Fear thread, you sound miserable. I know that you're NOT really miserable at all. The only time you're remotely miserable is when you indulge in the liberal/conservative illusion. Maybe that brings you some kind of balance. I dunno. I sure hope so, as much as you seem to do it.
 
Obama.... that is an entirely different issue. He has been in 8 years. I did not vote for him but I can honestly say my income has definitely gone up since he has been in office. Bush just about put me in bankruptcy with this one executive order he signed, so while I don't agree with everything Obama has done, I think overall he has brought up the numbers as far as employment, etc. I do know that while the president really does not have much to do with the price of gas, it did come down in his term and at the end of the Bush term it was over $4.00 a gallon. The national debt... don't even bother... that perpetually goes up no matter who is in office.

Not to derail this thread, since this is an entirely different subject, but figured I'd get my 2 cents in here as well. 8 years is a long time, and inflation averaging 3% per year over 8 years will make your (anyone's) income a decent bit higher just based on inflation. The important number isn't what you're bringing in for income - its what you have left after taxes and cost of living (both of which have gone up disproportionally to the inflation during his time in office).

As someone else alluded to, the unemployment numbers need to be taken with a grain of salt. People altogether leaving the work force lowers the unemployment rate - but it doesn't raise the amount of employed in the country. As you said, the president doesn't have much to do with gas prices, but if Obama had his preference - gas would still be above $4/gallon. The reason for this is twofold - 1) They get more tax revenue from gas if its price is higher. And he loves tax revenue. 2) Gas being $4+/gallon would entice many more people to move to electric, or at least hybrid, cars - which is a direction he would love to have the country move in. And with the national debt - as in the above, it increases naturally due to inflation, so the fact that its higher now than when he got in office isn't in and of itself a knock on him. But - the rate at which it is increasing is remarkable, which does show that he's not managing it properly.
 
Hahahaha. In your effort to chastise some of us for calling transies abnormal, I feel like you said something infinitely more offensive.



Can I suggest a way for them to help? They can tell people that we don't need to discuss the issues of transies anymore. They can tell people that they're perfectly happy being a transgender person but we do not need to have conversations about where they use the bathroom. They can help by silencing the liberals that want to force those discussions.


I said they were different earlier, in fact, I said we are ALL different and that is not more offensive. I give up... seems like maybe 2 people on here get it... Different is not bad, or negative, it is just different. (rme)
 
I do know that while the president really does not have much to do with the price of gas, it did come down in his term and at the end of the Bush term it was over $4.00 a gallon. The national debt... don't even bother... that perpetually goes up no matter who is in office.

Unfortunately, you're a little off on the gas prices. When Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, gas was 1.84.
 
Not to derail this thread, since this is an entirely different subject, but figured I'd get my 2 cents in here as well. 8 years is a long time, and inflation averaging 3% per year over 8 years will make your (anyone's) income a decent bit higher just based on inflation. The important number isn't what you're bringing in for income - its what you have left after taxes and cost of living (both of which have gone up disproportionally to the inflation during his time in office).

As someone else alluded to, the unemployment numbers need to be taken with a grain of salt. People altogether leaving the work force lowers the unemployment rate - but it doesn't raise the amount of employed in the country. As you said, the president doesn't have much to do with gas prices, but if Obama had his preference - gas would still be above $4/gallon. The reason for this is twofold - 1) They get more tax revenue from gas if its price is higher. And he loves tax revenue. 2) Gas being $4+/gallon would entice many more people to move to electric, or at least hybrid, cars - which is a direction he would love to have the country move in. And with the national debt - as in the above, it increases naturally due to inflation, so the fact that its higher now than when he got in office isn't in and of itself a knock on him. But - the rate at which it is increasing is remarkable, which does show that he's not managing it properly.

well, I read somewhere recently that his numbers were good but I will see if I can find a non-biased source for checking the numbers and I will check Bush too. I did not vote for either. I was a Ron Paul girl... but yell later about that... I don't care.
 
Unfortunately, you're a little off on the gas prices. When Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, gas was 1.84.

okay well, I just remember the year 2008 VERY well because I had been working for Ron Paul back then and drove my Camry a lot to set up his events and cart his family around town when they visited and even drove to Boston and gas was crazy expensive, then I wrecked the car and got a Jeep Grand Cherokee in summer 2008 and only drove it for a few months before getting rid of it because gas was over $4.00 because it was awful with gas consumption, so when I got rid of it in the fall it was still high. If it came down from $4.15 to $1.84 in just two months, I am not sure how I missed that. Now I have to put the premium in my Lexus and it is cheaper than any price I ever paid for the cheap gas during Bush being in office.
 
I was a Ron Paul girl... but yell later about that... I don't care.
I knew there were more of us! That might get you a liberal tag here. But, the upshot is, if you're around people who like politicians like Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein, they will see you as too conservative. Maybe that is why I don't understand the whole left/right thing. I see parallels with people who claim to be both, depending on the issue.
 
That's fine. I know I'm capable of offending people.



I don't know that they ever asked for politicians to get involved and start their usual game of playing favorites to pander to their weak followers. You should probably ask them directly. Take a week off from your political devotionals and speak to a few, in person.

There is no such thing as a "liberal" or "conservative" either. They're about as real as Santa Claus. Actually, Santa Claus is probably more real. He is, at least, more definitive. As long as you adhere to your fear of "everything liberal", you'll have the same quality of life you have now. From what you've described in these political threads, and the Fear thread, you sound miserable. I know that you're NOT really miserable at all. The only time you're remotely miserable is when you indulge in the liberal/conservative illusion. Maybe that brings you some kind of balance. I dunno. I sure hope so, as much as you seem to do it.

Yep. You nailed it. I didn't really read it but I figure if I just tell you that I might be able to avoid having you direct messages towards me of the same shit.
 
Yep. You nailed it. I didn't really read it but I figure if I just tell you that I might be able to avoid having you direct messages towards me of the same shit.
Talk to Dennis Prager. He'll give you information you WANT TO HEAR! Don't do anything rash like having to process something that you don't agree with and have to consider something new. Stay in the comfort zone of "What I Already Know." You managed to get old, practically ancient, in your 40's. Throw a party!
 
I knew there were more of us! That might get you a liberal tag here. But, the upshot is, if you're around people who like politicians like Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein, they will see you as too conservative. Maybe that is why I don't understand the whole left/right thing. I see parallels with people who claim to be both, depending on the issue.

Well if being called liberal means you care about others and believe in helping when you can, want your tax dollars spent helping instead of bombing and killing... the call me liberal or libtard all day. I would never, ever want to be called greedy, insensitive to others, a bully, racist, or anything like that at all. I have conservatives in my family and the ONLY reason they are is because their church tells them to be that way and some of them have this false belief that liberals want to take their guns (which is so dang laughable! not gonna happen!)... I love these people but don't get why they live in such fear of things. But I guess if you think about it and believe it, you will bring it... I choose to do things differently, I guess. I am very happy.
 
Well if being called liberal means you care about others and believe in helping when you can, want your tax dollars spent helping instead of bombing and killing... the call me liberal or libtard all day. I would never, ever want to be called greedy, insensitive to others, a bully, racist, or anything like that at all. I have conservatives in my family and the ONLY reason they are is because their church tells them to be that way and some of them have this false belief that liberals want to take their guns (which is so dang laughable! not gonna happen!)... I love these people but don't get why they live in such fear of things. But I guess if you think about it and believe it, you will bring it... I choose to do things differently, I guess. I am very happy.
The biggest issue I have with people who call themselves liberal is their insistence that "I'm not supposed to say that." That comes off as censoring people and I don't like that. Or, that wearing a sombrero on Cinco De Mayo is cultural appropriation. They pretend to carry crosses for other people that don't even have the cross themselves. Truth be told, that is where much of this issue is coming from, too. People who AREN'T transgender are feeling sorry for them and then trying to play victims with them.
 
The biggest issue I have with people who call themselves liberal is their insistence that "I'm not supposed to say that." That comes off as censoring people and I don't like that. Or, that wearing a sombrero on Cinco De Mayo is cultural appropriation. They pretend to carry crosses for other people that don't even have the cross themselves. Truth be told, that is where much of this issue is coming from, too. People who AREN'T transgender are feeling sorry for them and then trying to play victims with them.

Good point. People do tend to get their knickers in a twist over the most mundane things. I have friends who are from Mexico and LEGALLY here (I must add that) and they find the Cinco de Mayo thing fantastic and love that we celebrate the non-existent holiday LOL... it is my excuse to drink! LOL
 
The biggest issue I have with people who call themselves liberal is their insistence that "I'm not supposed to say that." That comes off as censoring people and I don't like that. Or, that wearing a sombrero on Cinco De Mayo is cultural appropriation. They pretend to carry crosses for other people that don't even have the cross themselves. Truth be told, that is where much of this issue is coming from, too. People who AREN'T transgender are feeling sorry for them and then trying to play victims with them.

This is the biggest issue I have with people who call themselves liberal as well.
 
Talk to Dennis Prager. He'll give you information you WANT TO HEAR! Don't do anything rash like having to process something that you don't agree with and have to consider something new. Stay in the comfort zone of "What I Already Know." You managed to get old, practically ancient, in your 40's. Throw a party!

Ok. You're right. I totally agree.

Where does this leave us? Am I still going to have to read your inane responses to my poasts or have I placated you enough that you'll refrain from giving me any more unsolicited life lessons?
 
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I knew there were more of us! That might get you a liberal tag here. But, the upshot is, if you're around people who like politicians like Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein, they will see you as too conservative. Maybe that is why I don't understand the whole left/right thing. I see parallels with people who claim to be both, depending on the issue.
Apparently there is a lot more that you don't understand other than the left/right thing.
 
Well if being called liberal means you care about others and believe in helping when you can, want your tax dollars spent helping instead of bombing and killing... the call me liberal or libtard all day. I would never, ever want to be called greedy, insensitive to others, a bully, racist, or anything like that at all. I have conservatives in my family and the ONLY reason they are is because their church tells them to be that way and some of them have this false belief that liberals want to take their guns (which is so dang laughable! not gonna happen!)... I love these people but don't get why they live in such fear of things. But I guess if you think about it and believe it, you will bring it... I choose to do things differently, I guess. I am very happy.
Liberals are so damn good at giving away other people's money while fighting to hold on to all theirs. Example: douche bags like TheClinton's ,Warren Buffett , John Kerry , super Dork Bill Gates , and the list goes on and on. Most liberals just think it is cool cause all the sheeople celebs .are but if you actually start questioning them you find they are pretty conservative (well with what's theirs anyway).
 
Ok. You're right. I totally agree.

Where does this leave us? Am I still going to have to read your inane responses to my poasts or have I placated you enough that you'll refrain from giving me any more unsolicited life lessons?
They are by the very definition - abnormal. Deviant is another word that is appropriate. Because both words mean "deviating from the norm". Being that transgender is not "the norm", transgender is "abnormal". Even someone with your desire to be argumentative cannot argue with the English language.

I think you started this exchange. Please put me on ignore, or stop replying to mine, if you don't want a reply.
 
Liberals are so damn good at giving away other people's money while fighting to hold on to all theirs. Example: douche bags like TheClinton's ,Warren Buffett , John Kerry , super Dork Bill Gates , and the list goes on and on. Most liberals just think it is cool cause all the sheeople celebs .are but if you actually start questioning them you find they are pretty conservative (well with what's theirs anyway).

I never consider celebs anyway. They make more money than I personally believe anyone's time is worth. I pay taxes, meaning I send the IRS and the state a check on April 15. I also give to charities throughout the year, especially the ones that benefit children who are sick. I would love for the money I send every year go to help the veterans, the elderly and children. I get tired of hearing about people who are working and still have to be cold in winter because they cannot afford for the power bill to get too high, the ones who are in the SHARE office seeking help to get kerosene to keep their kids warm and fed because things cost too damn much. I have seen people that have to struggle because they can't get ahead. Then I really get pissed when I hear a right wing nut spout the typical ignorant response of "they need to get off their lazy butt and work, I'm tired of taking care of them" which is so far from the truth. Only 1-3% of what you pay in goes towards food stamps, welfare and the vets/elderly. The majority goes for defense which ends up lining the CEOs of military goods with millions in profit, not even the men and women who put their lives on the line get a great benefit from it. I'm sick of supporting corporate welfare by bailing banks out and letting Wall Street and the Federal Reserve run the show around here. If you have never had to worry about how you would feed your kids or keep them warm, get on your knees and thank God or the universe you don't have to know what that is like but for goodness sake don't berate people who are wanting to help others who suffer that way. People pick out a few lazy butts that DO abuse the systems and make it difficult for others. So if a liberal is someone who wants to help others like that, sue me.....
 
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