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toophly1124 said:
Think Manley over Brooks??
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Yes sir. Manley will be our starting center next season . . I believe Brooks will be backing up Maye at the 4 spot.

Depth chart looking something like :

PG: Berry/Woods/Felton
WG: Johnson/Williams/Felton/Robinson/Platek
WF: Pinson/Robinson/Johnson
PF: Maye/Brooks/Pinson
C: Manley/Huffman/Brooks

8 freaking backcourt players and thats not including Theo Pinson in that bunch . . . . Whoa . . ! We added a 'shooter' to the roster today no doubt about it . . and one that stands 6'8" tall and carries 210 lbs.
For a team that lost so much in scoring with the graduating of Meeks, Hicks & losing Justin early to the NBA, to be able to pick up a player of this caliber is fantastic.

We 'reloaded' in a small way today . . the loss of JJ's outside scoring threat has been remedied.
 
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ohio tarheels said:
I would say at this point starters would be in my opinion:
Berry
KWill
Pinson
Maye
Huffman/Brooks (whoever dies better in practices)

What a good problem to have when fans will have different opinions on who should start.... Should be 10-11 man rotations again next year....And that's after losing 5 key cogs from a National Championship(not to bad Ole Roy)
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I gave Cameron the nod over Kenny because he started for an ACC school last season, his consistent shooting will win that spot IMO, also, I believe that he's a better player than KW . . (speaking of KW, he can't be thrilled over today's developments) . . Roy may have a tough time keeping peeps happy next season as we have so many backcourt players.
 
toophly1124 said:
That is one of my concerns as well. I've got to believe Roy can do it though. Not too many disgruntled players I've seen throughout the years.
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Roy juggling time amongst the players has been one of his strong suits IMO . . as fans, we bitch about so and so getting minutes over _______ . He may be looking to see which player combos work best in a certain situation, but, make no mistake, he delves out minutes enough to the player to keep each as happy and involved as possible. Team chemistry troubles have basically only come when the player himself has an individual issue (Drew) . .
 
BillyL said:
I gave Cameron the nod over Kenny because he started for an ACC school last season, his consistent shooting will win that spot IMO, also, I believe that he's a better player than KW . . (speaking of KW, he can't be thrilled over today's developments) . . Roy may have a tough time keeping peeps happy next season as we have so many backcourt players.
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I think this cuts more into Robinson's playing time instead of KW. Cam will play more at the three instead of the two IMO, which is where Robinson was going to be. Remember, KW started for an ACC team too and at one point lead that team in three point percentage.
 
So this post got deleted in the kentucky thread on THR:

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I wonder which mod's wife or mom walked by and made him delete it, only reasonable explanation.
 
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I am amazed at how quick this came down by comparison. Also at the lack of an outcry like the abcers ha e been doing UNC for so long. Taking that banner down for them is a hugh thing
 
tw3301 said:
But in reality, what are the similarities between these 2 cases? nothing really, apples to oranges or hookers to fake/easy classes. the only thing I would be worried about if I were a UNC fan is the impermissible benefits angle, only thing I see that is somewhat similar.
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There were no fake classes.
 
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BillyL said:
There were no fake classes.
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Nope!

I have no doubt that people (the majority of the people who took the classes) who have degrees with those classes as part of their requirements, are going to have to return their degrees and apply for different classes to attain their degree AGAIN.
 
strummingram said:
Nope!

I have no doubt that people (the majority of the people who took the classes) who have degrees with those classes as part of their requirements, are going to have to return their degrees and apply for different classes to attain their degree AGAIN.
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Say wut . . ?
 
BillyL said:
Say wut . . ?
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tw3301 said:
the non student athletes that took the class... he's agreeing with you. I don't follow this crap too closely so fake, easy, no show whatever the hell the issue is it isn't hookers is what I was trying to say.
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Correct.

Billy, I was saying that we know that a majority of the people who took those classes were not athletes. Those people also went on to earn a degree. So, the classes being "fake" and affecting the outcomes of sports records (removing banners) would be akin to people who also got their degrees having to basically surrender the degrees and going back to school, if the same rule applies. The classes were not "fake" at all. The classes were simply easy, pad-your-GPA, maintain-your-financial-aid courses that people took because they were easy. It's found in every school in the country. I am fully aware that the classes were "gimme" classes. But, that doesn't make them "fake." And, if SACS approved them, or claimed they were accredited, or whatever they did, then the classes were legitimate. If people were given degrees, and they used the AFAM classes to help earn the degrees, then, in my opinion, this is all that matters. If they qualify to help earn a degree, then they're not "fake" at all. You could say that the degree was earned by taking some easy classes, and I'd say that every degree was earned with some easy classes.

Prostitution, however, is illegal... period.
 
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strummingram said:
I am fully aware that the classes were "gimme" classes. But, that doesn't make them "fake."
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Language is important, and this is one of the biggest tragedies in how the story has been presented to the public. The classes were "fake" in the way that you might buy a fake Rolex on the street. It's still a watch; it's just not the same quality as an actual Rolex. But because "fake" can have different meanings, most people (including much of the media) have interpreted it to mean "non-existent" when that is obviously inaccurate.

You could make the argument that the media --- particularly the N&O -- chose to use that word specifically because of its ambiguous meaning. It makes the story more inflammatory. On the other hand, the word "fake" doesn't appear even once in the Hartlyn-Andrews Report, the Martin Report, or the Wainstein Report. They were very deliberate in choosing to call the classes aberrant, abnormal, irregular, etc.
 
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Grayhead said:
Wonder how this will compare to what we have going on
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It's probably not a good sign, but it's hard to say right now until UL appeals. It may be a case of the NCAA coming down hard, but then backs off once they appeal. I've never been too concerned about what the NCAA does in our case, because it's not going to matter that much. UNC is going to take this thing to court, so what the court says is going to be what matters. UNC's case is going to fundamentally change the way the NCAA operates. Either they are going to become stronger than ever or they are going to cease to exist as we know it.

Grayhead said:
I am amazed at how quick this came down by comparison.
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So when escorts are involved the NCAA comes down quick? I've heard that happens when you get older.
 
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tarheel0910 said:
UNC is going to take this thing to court, so what the court says is going to be what matters. UNC's case is going to fundamentally change the way the NCAA operates. Either they are going to become stronger than ever or they are going to cease to exist as we know it.
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Definitely agree with the first part. We're going to get hammered, and the Louisville case may be the NCAA trying to set a precedent where they demand forfeiture of a national title. I also believe that UNC is going to take them to court and win. Only difference is that I don't share your certainty that's it's going to push the NCAA to an extreme. The NCAA is governed by its member institutions and I don't know that any of them have an appetite for seeing that happen with all the $$$ they control.
 
What's humorous (in a dark way) about Louisville getting popped for provided recruits escorts is I know for a fact of one SEC school that does it. The escorts just aren't paid; they volunteer. The school's team name rhymes with Laters. And I'm sure they aren't the only ones.

Just like how several schools have been housing athletes in aberrant classes and majors for years and still do, but only Carolina is in the spotlight about it.
 
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TarHeelNation11 said:
What's humorous (in a dark way) about Louisville getting popped for provided recruits escorts is I know for a fact of one SEC school that does it. The escorts just aren't paid; they volunteer. The school's team name rhymes with Laters. And I'm sure they aren't the only ones.

Just like how several schools have been housing athletes in aberrant classes and majors for years and still do, but only Carolina is in the spotlight about it.
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The NCAA likes to have a couple poster boys so they give off the appearance of a legit supervisory organization without actually having to do too much damage to what makes them money.
 
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