I think Seventh will be the most frustrating, disappointing PG since LDII. It's going to be a rough season unless they can find someone else to run that position. Woods is terrible.
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I'm not excited either. Just cautiously accepting of it.
We have a pretty wide range of possible outcomes next year. If Woods is just even keeled (meaning he doesn't turn the ball over and plays decent defense) then he will have met even the most optimistic expectations.
He’s been injured 75% of his time here and hasn’t played more than 15 minutes a game since like his first or second game as a freshman. He didn’t get Mr Basketball in South Carolina by being terrible.
Well, one thing I do feel good about is his defensive potential. I think he can be very good on that end.
If you think this then I can promise you that Woods won't disappoint you next year.
Well, to be fair he got it because of his tremendous athleticism that could not be matched by his competition. Some of that is gone because of those injuries. Some of it is also negated by the competition that he is up against now. Can he get some of that explosiveness back? Maybe. Hopefully.
I’m ready and excited to watch him play where he’s not fearing every millisecond of making one misstake and being benched. Which has been about his career thus far.
I think Woods can definitely pan out for us. But to me Coby has way more potential.
I dunno how he got the name "Mr. Basketball" in South Carolina in high school. It obviously doesn't mean you automatically play good basketball while in college at North Carolina.
I'm not a basketball strategist by a long shot. I just know he hasn't shown me squat. Whenever I saw him come on the court, I was just hoping they could weather the storm until he went back to the bench. If he proves me wrong, that will be great. I'm just expecting very little, and preparing myself for a rough season if Woods is the starter for the entire season.
I'm not claiming to know more than Roy Williams, or to know more than anyone else. I absolutely don't know more than anyone else! lol
I'm sure Roy Williams is using his best decisions as far as the team goes, just as he always does. I'm simply giving my opinion.
Did I say it did? You said he was terrible. I simply replied you don’t get his accolades by being “terrible”. That’s just foolishness.
No kidding?
Ahh, well, congratulations on getting the award for being Mr. Basketball in high school in SC.
He has yet to show that he's anything close to being "Mr. Basketball" at UNC. If he does in the time he has left... that's awesome. I'm not optimistic at all when it comes to Woods.
I agree. I'm not sure Roy believes in him completely though. I think Roy believes in his potential and what he can be. I think Roy also realizes he has to earn it.
I hate to say it, but the biggest contribution 7th Could make IMO would be to help Coby prepare and learn the system as quickly as possible.
The standard of work is just so high nowadays that we can’t expect him to cover that much ground over the summer. Everyone is in the gym 8 hours a day at this level. Coby will likely improve more than 7th between now and the start of the season.
The standard of work is just so high nowadays that we can’t expect him to cover that much ground over the summer. Everyone is in the gym 8 hours a day at this level. Coby will likely improve more than 7th between now and the start of the season.
Freshman PGs who excel under Roy are rare.
Jr-Sr PGs who are at least decent college players are relatively common under Roy.
Jr-Sr PGs who are at least decent college players are relatively common under Roy.
I would sign up for a Derrick Phelps from 7th in a heartbeat.
I don't think he gets there. Coby is starting at PG by ACC play IMO.
No way. 7th will start at least until first Dook game. Hell, Roy gave Larry Drew a chance over Marshall- he will damn sure do the same for 7th.
But Drew was coming off a soph season where he averaged 29 minutes per game and wasn't THAT horrible.
7th has shown us much less than LDII did in his first two seasons.
To be fair, Woods hasn't played two full seasons and there was no chance of him getting major minutes because of JB.
Yeah - that's kinda my point. His leash is going to be much shorter than LDII's was since he was coming off a 29mpg soph season as our starting PG.
Nah. LD was a little prick with a helicopter bitch of a mom. Roy will be more loyal to the player whit a positive attitude who buys in.
I think Roy will give him a pretty long leash because he doesn't like starting freshman point guards. LDII is the perfect example. Everyone knew Marshall should have been starting, but he wasn't going to start a freshman at the point since he had someone with experience. It will be at least ACC play before Roy even considers starting Coby. He will start the season on the bench with Nas.
I would like to think that Roy learned from the LDII/Marshall situation and would start Coby from the get-go. But I agree with you that he's stubborn enough to trot 7th out there for the beginning of the season.
Even I'm not cynical enough to think that Roy buries Nas on the bench... that's impressive.
That would be ridiculous. I said it on THR, if Nas starts on the bench then we don't deserve any top 10 prospects.
The only possible way Nas starts is if Roy goes small and he hates playing small ball. Roy isn't going to bench Cam. Not sure how anyone who knows Roy's style would think otherwise.
Honestly, who cares? Contrary to popular belief, we weren't bringing in multiple top 10 recruits before the scandal. We would get one every now and then, but Roy's sweet spot was always the best of the rest. The 2-4 year guys.
There were some extenuating circumstances regarding the entire Drew over Marshall drama. That won't exist next year. I think Woods will get his chance for sure but if Roy thinks he needs to move I think he will do it quicker than he did with Drew.
Nas will probably be better than Cam next year - but I agree that Roy's style is to start the upperclassman in that situation. I would hope he realizes that the optics of starting Nas are more important to the team (long term) than even if Cam was a slightly better player on the court. Nas will almost certainly be more valuable on the court than Manley. So I think Roy should be deciding between whether he wants to start Cam, or keep his traditional two-big lineup.
But, you may have started to convince me to be more cynical (honestly, doesn't take that much convincing for me to go down that route), and think that Roy may just flip everyone off and start Cam and two bigs. Thanks.
Roy insults his own fans. Since when does he care about optics? Also...
Not sure why you think that's being cynical. Nas will get 20-25 minutes if he doesn't start. If he does start, he will get 20-25 minutes. The only difference will be that people on this site will continue to circle jerk to the word starter either way.
The one about making a team using only Roy's championship teams.
I mean, I appreciate what Berry has done as much as any UNC fan, but Jesus, I'm sure G7 believes he's the best basketball player who's ever lived.
I’d take Marcus over him personally. I love both as well though.
