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.... and we all know the real GOAT would be 8-0 in finals if not for the murder of his father, baseball vacation, etc.
OOTB Carolina Basketball Discussion Thread
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.... and we all know the real GOAT would be 8-0 in finals if not for the murder of his father, baseball vacation, etc.
I'll concede that point. It was a different time for sure. If Lebron were required to have played a year in college would he have won an NCAA title? Pretty likely especially if he went to a power like Duke, Kentucky, UNC....I don't know if he had the grades to cut it at UNC or Duke. Maybe Ohio State....
I stopped in my original post before going into things Lebron does as defacto GM wherever he goes..... who the coach will be, how that coach will use him, which players get traded, cut, etc on his own team. Sure MJ did SOME of this, but not nearly to the extent that Lebron does. MJ was more just "man up, shut up, expect a lot out of who he has around him, and go play".
And I won't get into the woke Social Justice Warrior things I think Lebron brings (quite uninformed and often wrong IMO....) - where MJ more or less stayed above the fray of that and just played for ALL fans, and left it at basketball, not politics or social causes.
But this has all been beaten to death on THR - so need to rehash it here.
I guess tonight's game is the biggest game of the season... so far
It's basically a pick'em.
ESPN is showing the 1995 UVA @UNC game... Rasheed and Stackhouse
It's basically a pick'em.
ESPN is showing the 1995 UVA @UNC game... Rasheed and Stackhouse
dude, wtf was kenny doing down the stretch on defense?
had that game...no injury excuses, but had that game.
had that game...no injury excuses, but had that game.
if those mf’rs on raider start talking about injuries, i might get banned.
I hope this loss isn't an indicator of big games to come.
The team is limited and winning is tenuous.
When they pulled ahead by 7, I thought it was going to be a win. The defense just popped the bed after Coby missed the half court 3 by a millisecond.
The team is limited and winning is tenuous.
When they pulled ahead by 7, I thought it was going to be a win. The defense just popped the bed after Coby missed the half court 3 by a millisecond.
Congrats on FTH including you in the not a real UNC fan group. That's a prestigious club to be in.The refs cost UNC the game.
I tend to agree with SJung's assessments. Maye's performance plays a huge roll in the success of the team.
All of you stop. I learned on THR that we lost last night because Platek didn't play more.
I also saw that. Maybe the coaching mafia can have a little sit down with Roy.
"we lost because we didn't have a floor general" especially the last 4 minutes of both halves last night.
I've been told I should "let sleeping dogs lie" regarding said poster's direct shots fired at Coby because apparently he isn't Joel Berry. So I'll let sleeping dogs lie over on THR.
But it does really torque me off - a poster's incessant digs at Coby, promotion of Platek (I mean - I know Platek plays all out and is doing all he can but even Platek can see he is limited physically in what he can contribute, and doesn't even look to score. Maybe he is a "floor general" though)
....and most of all - some revisionist history like somehow we would've won last night, all else being equal if we had Joel Berry in place of Coby? That's exactly what is being said. I want to refute that, I'll take Coby every game, even in an off shooting night. Coby worked hard to get to the rack, and had 5 points taken away by split second freak occurrences of the clock.
How would some other "floor general" get us to get more points on the inside, make Luke or Brooks or Kenny make more shots, etc beyond what Coby tried? I think the person only sees Coby dribbling around then jacking up a shot. I don't see that.
Would Berry have shut down Kyle Guy more than Kenny? or shut down Coby's guy more than whoever he was guarding? maybe, but it sure wasn't enough to change the outcome of the game.
I'll just disregard it over there on THR - but however this year ends, if it doesn't end in us cutting nets in April - it will be because "we had to 'downgrade' from JB this year.... and worse yet.... we made the wrong move in downgrading from JB to Coby at PG instead of Platek." That is so wrong and delusional it is offensive and is an assault on Coby. Hard to let that just pass. But I will. Letting it go makes him think he's right. He is not.
And to make it worse, that dumbass didn't even play Huffman. It's obvious he needs to play at least 8-10 minutes a game.
I don't pay all that much attention to G7's poasts but is he really saying that Platek should be our starting PG? Are y'all just fooling and exaggerating his comments from before the season or is he really still saying that Platek should be starting at PG? I just can't believe anyone would really be saying that and being serious. Trolling?
Not just him, the entire coaching mafia thinks so too...which is probably just him and FTH on opposite sides of their studio apartment.
That's very hard for me to believe. But because I don't feel like going over there and checking, I'll take your word for it.
Honestly, I don't know if he thinks he should start...but he definitely wants him to play major minutes.
The thing I don't get is he straight up doesn't like Coby. How can any Tar Heel fan watch games and be like "eh, that guy isn't my kinda guy". Maybe he's against afros?
Well, I can’t defend LT’s off the field transgressions, but on the field he was a Bad Mutha (shut yo’ mouth...)I should probably stay away from Lawrence Taylor too, right?
well, I don't think G7 thinks AP should start, but should play more minutes in crunch time, last 4 minutes of each half, when we need and are lacking a floor general to lead us through.
I get it I think. G7 is old school, with his mafia, and coached and played etc. He loves everything traditional about UNC basketball, which means great passing, limited dribbling, working for easy shots. Don't rely on creating shots on your own. I admire this adherence to great tradition. Sure, everyone would love that if we had all the pieces in all the positions to make that happen. Truth is - we don't. As has been stated ad nauseum, we have a very limited talent roster, especially in the front court without Nas.
We have zero guys, (especially with Nas hurt) who are great or even good at 1) posting up properly, 2) catching a pass in the paint and 3) finishing strong IF they happen to catch the entry pass. I'd give Luke and Brooks a collective C minus grade at this aspect of their game. No "better floor general" is going to improve these grades, IMO.
I bet G7 hates that Coby has a high dribble, and is on the verge of too fast and out of control at times. But he is getting better all the time, and you just have to take a little of that "bad" with the huge amount of "great" upside that comes with Coby. Pure scorer in all aspects - outside and driving. Net overall, Coby is a huge plus, probably the most indispensable guy on our team.
Is AP better, "smarter" than Coby at knowing WHAT to run in the Carolina offense? Maybe. Hard for us to know. It feels like Coby is learning quickly. But just for the sake of argument lets say AP is a bit better than Coby at knowing spacing and where to pass the ball, and how to run various offensive plays, from A being here 2 (or 3?) years.....
all that is 100% moot because KNOWING what to do is utterly useless if you don't have the physical talents, gifts, and abilities to DO it, to compete at a D1 level. On defense, the end of our bench can blow by AP on the dribble. Almost any player can outrebound him or block his shot.
Coby's scoring, shot creation, ball handling, defense abilities are so superior to AP's (not AP's fault) that it doesn't even merit discussion or debate, IMO.
I think it's because he's the first PG after JB. He was going to hate that player no matter what. It's the main reason he stopped keeping stats that made the PG look better than the official box score.
And I really want to know how many blown assists Coby has this year.
Being mad at Coby because Joel Berry used up all 4 years of his eligibility is sad.
@dadika this makes me laugh. Going forward, it will make me think of a certain poster in "the mafia" as Fredo:How he imagines the coaching mafia:
The actual coaching mafia:
"It ain’t the way I wanted it! I can handle things. I’m smart (about Heels college basketball) . Not like everybody says, like dumb. I’m smart and I want respect!"
gary. and it makes ZERO sense. Many of us have tried to get him to see just how dern good Coby is at PG. He tends to forget, Berry had Marcus to help him learn on the floor with him. Who does Coby have?
For what ever reason, gary is being extra stubborn about Coby and Platek.
Wasn't he going to keep up with the Blown Assist for Coby too?
haha... if no one watched it, did it really happen?
Largest margin of victory over Wake ever... 95-57.
