OOTB Carolina Basketball Discussion Thread
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Guess I should actually read other people's poasts. They can't all be as bad as the politics thread.
thanks for the memories
Another decommit for $tate. They have 6 players on roster for next season
At least he did it the right way like Roy did and didn't do a fame tour like Satan.
Don’t think anyone did. Mad respect for him tho.
Yep and agree, but maybe you put together a little different offense on the floor with what we have.
Big key to our success was our defense and just playing well together. We'll see if we can do that. We should be able to play our bench more and so run a little more.
But replacing Manek? I don't know. He was just that good and maybe there is no replacement and so you figure out a different formula.
If Leaky can learn to finish better around the rim, which is entirely possible, and just make uncontested open 3s and other shots while still playing lock-down D, that would be huge. The other team wouldn't be able to lay off him, but finishing around the rim is big. He has the ability to get there. If he can learn to finish, that would be huge.
IMO, the best coach in college basketball the last few years.
Yeah, so far the debate has been - can Puff fill Manek's shoes? The answer there IMO is "no". An emphatic "no". But he doesn't have to. Puff does some other things well. And I have confidence that Hubert can develop a style that suits next year's group as well as the style that suited this year's group.
If we plan to play the same way as last year, we'll need to go out and find a transfer stretch 4. And I can see an argument to do that. We made it to the FF with that style and most are coming back. The seamless move to next year would really be nice. But on the other hand, if we bring someone new in, we don't know how they'll mesh with the current guys. Obviously we thought Garcia would and he didn't. So that's a gamble. And when you bring in a new guy, you run the risk of stepping on the toes of guys like Puff and Styles who have been waiting their turn.
The more prudent option might be just to roll with what we have and change the offense to suit the current group rather than trying to replicate last year's style.
And then of course, there's the whole scholarship limit thing and right now, depending on what Love does, we don't really have room.
I've been saying for a few years that if he could knock down runners from 6-10ft he'd be a major contributor on offense. With his length, there aren't many players in college basketball who could stop him from getting it off.
He doesn't need to do that though, because that's not his role. He improved a lot this year, because he figured that out. Going back to trying to become a guy who can average close to 10 points and be a lockdown defender and a good facilitate and a good rebounder doesn't help the team. Probably makes it worse.
Shouldn't he at least TRY to enhance his offensive skills? Or, does that detract from his most effective role? When the team is on offense, he can be an offensive force, too... or should be.
Disagree. He needs to be able to score or the other team lags off of him, and it's also very important on broken plays, rebounds, on the break, etc,...that he finishes.
it's not like he should be a go-to guy, just someone if left open can hit the shot and finish at the rim when the lane is clearly open.
Leaky becoming more competent offensively would help, not hurt. You want complete basketball players as much as possible.
That may be true. But losing Manek is going to be a huge blow to our offensive fire power. If Leaky can give us something like 10-15 points fairly consistently without having to jack up a ton of shots then I think that would be a huge help. Especially if Caleb isn't back. The actual average should still skew lower than that since there will be games when he unquestionably needs to focus his effort more on the defensive end.
Leaky being able to score from that midrange part of the court will force big guys to make a choice to help out on the drive. They can't leave Bacot so he could get a lot of really good looks. It's not something I would force, but it would be nice if he can knock them down when they are there. We've already seen him use his length and basketball IQ to help facilitate for other guys so getting him into that 10-12 foot range in the paint is a benefit regardless of whether he is knocking down shots or distributing to other guys.
just saw caleb has until 11:59 tonight to announce.
i thought the deadline to declare was in may.
i thought the deadline to declare was in may.
the deadline to declare for nba draft is today; deadline to declare for portal is next week (5/1)
Gonna be some HIIIIGH expectations on these guys next year.
Yeah, them reaching the championship game is both a blessing and a curse for them and especially Hubert. The expectations that he has going into his second year are significantly higher than they would have been if we would have flamed out in the second round. It's too soon to know if he is the type of coach that can meet those expectations.
Replacing Brady Manek is impossible, and he was a huge pillar in that foundation. Hopefully the maturation of the remaining four, and whatever can be garnered from the rest of the team, will push the program to as good, or better, of a season next year.
I keep going back and forth on the loss of Manek. On one hand, he was the ultimate floor spacer and allowed Mando to be Mando and enabled driving lanes for Davis and Love. That's a big deal and we cannot replicate what he gave us.
But on the other hand, I don't necessarily feel as if Hubert has to try and replicate this year next season. And it's silly to think that Love and Davis won't take another pretty big step this offseason. I also imagine that Puff will be a more confident shooter next year. He won't be Manek. But he does some other things really well and I now have confidence in Hubert utilizing Puff (and Styles, and Washington and Leaky) in the most beneficial way for team success.
But on the other hand, I don't necessarily feel as if Hubert has to try and replicate this year next season. And it's silly to think that Love and Davis won't take another pretty big step this offseason. I also imagine that Puff will be a more confident shooter next year. He won't be Manek. But he does some other things really well and I now have confidence in Hubert utilizing Puff (and Styles, and Washington and Leaky) in the most beneficial way for team success.
Replacing Brady will definitely not be easy, but its not the first time the Heels have been here. The Redemption team had to replace Marcus and Brice.
This will show us how much Hubert can adapt, as Puff/Styles/Washington(?) would not be the same but could bring something a little different.
This will show us how much Hubert can adapt, as Puff/Styles/Washington(?) would not be the same but could bring something a little different.
My thoughts exactly. I think the collective improvement of everyone else will be what makes up for what Manek did for us this season.
I hope so. It should definitely be obtainable. I just don't want to underestimate his contribution and the overall chemistry they had as a group.
They can possibly do that, but the harder part is making up for what he did in the locker room. The players have said he made a big impact there. In my opinion, it's a lot easier to replace production than it is leadership.
I completely agree. That's the trick; getting new guys to assume those roles. I'm looking at you Mando and Leaky.
Yeah, I don't think it's a coincidence that after Garcia left, and Manek became the permanent 5th-arm, that things began to slowly, steadily get better. Maybe it was all 5 of them working as a unit. I'd never heard of him being a leader of the group. If that's true, then it will be even more difficult to plug the hole. Not impossible, mind you. But, not easy, either.
Hopefully, Hubert and the staff will have their sea legs and really make it come into fruition. It's crazy, sometimes, to think that we went to the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP game this season! No one saw that coming. It's a good place to be and a tough act to follow, no matter who the coach is, or the program itself.
I don't know about anyone else... but, after the Kansas game, I was so relieved! It felt like I'd taken a Xanax or something. Even though it was a loss... it was OVER! Finally... over. Those 3 week runs are taxing! The first two weekends were harder than the last, for me! And, I'm not ashamed to say that I was totally satisfied when they beat the dookies. Losing to Kansas sucked, but it wasn't anywhere near as deflating as the Nova/2016 loss. Ya gotta admit, being in 3 of the last 6 National Championship games is pretty good.
Yeah that’s fair, the team loved him and he was apparently pretty important in the meeting they had after the Pitt loss that turned the ship around.
As Slinger said, Armando and Leaky as the older guys need to fill that role now.
The #1 recruit in the 2023 class just committed to us. So I guess that's a good thing.
Hubert is going to the 2023 #11 rated recruit’s house tomorrow like a pimp.
Is he going to be with David Banner? A thug ass man, with bad table manners?
gg committing wasn’t a sure thing until martin was fired from scarolina.
i can say now that he and three or four other dudes thought about all “joining forces” to commit to scarolina to take the program to the “next” level.
my source has been there since the early 2000’s…he told me about several dudes; woods, dozier, zion, etc…he has now taken a job with scarolina under the new coach, so there goes my sc intel…not even sure we can eat lunch together anymore lol.
eta: i can tell you durham and auburn were never in it, never…his mom loves hubert and carolina.
i can say now that he and three or four other dudes thought about all “joining forces” to commit to scarolina to take the program to the “next” level.
my source has been there since the early 2000’s…he told me about several dudes; woods, dozier, zion, etc…he has now taken a job with scarolina under the new coach, so there goes my sc intel…not even sure we can eat lunch together anymore lol.
eta: i can tell you durham and auburn were never in it, never…his mom loves hubert and carolina.
So we've got this white guy just throwing the blacks on a farm? When's he going to add the chains?
And Mando won't be able to get married or get an abortion.......
