I disagree on both of those now. The college experience that was once a valuable thing exist no longer. And while at one time I would have agreed that any degree was better than no degree at all, I can't say that anymore. In fact, I've done a 180. I think the less time kids spend in college, the better. Today, if you're not getting a math based degree and keeping your head down, going to class and then getting as far away from campus as possible, then you'll be infected with inane woke academia sponsored bullshit. Best to keep as many kids away from that toxic environment as possible.