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There has been a lot of chatter around here of a lack of effort and questionable attitude with Bol. He lived around Kansas City for a while and the word was his coaches and teammates didn't miss him when he left. Not sure if that will be a factor for Roy? Have you heard anything like that?
You misunderstood me sir. Honest.
My post was not one of complaint.
I was just reciting what coaches and college pundits have been saying for years.
5 of 60 is real good!!
So let me ask you guys another question. I''ve heard from many people that Zion isn't coming to UNC, and I believe them. But if you're Zion, what leads you to that decision? Why does you decide you like Duke/UK/whoever and UNC is eliminated?
The recruiting game is very "dirty" right now, and if Zion and his people are wallowing in dirt, RW wont win that battle. Not to mention alot of negative wind blowing against us.
But one thing you can be sure of, RW is still one of the best 2 or 3 recruiters in America.
I'm talking about guys with "clean" hands.
Don't be surprised if Clemson isn't heavy in the mix with Zion. He could go there for one year and be the whole show. No doubt Brownell is more than desperate with his job hanging by a thread. And as we have seen many times over the years, mainly football but also in basketball, Clemson will spend whatever it takes when they decide they need to win.
They are very much in it and there are some folks down in SC who would do whatever to keep him in-state.
Zion's stepfather is the one trying to run his recruitment I believe. IIRC, he attended or played at Clemson. You also have lots of others as Gary mentioned pushing for SC as well.
Many of his friends/family want him "to pave his own path" instead of going to a blue blood school. Will be interesting to see if he leaves SC or not.
Many of his friends/family want him "to pave his own path" instead of going to a blue blood school. Will be interesting to see if he leaves SC or not.
His father said it would be between May 2nd - May 7th, so if they stick to that schedule, it would indeed be next week.
Ok, so lets get in Zion's shoes. How much money is another team (a booster right?) paying you to commit? Because I thought this usually occured with 4 star type players. Because if I'm a top 10 player like Zion, with many millions on the line based on developing my game the right way, I'm not picking my college based on $50,000. That's why someone like Knox turns down $1.4 million to play in China for a year. So I'm left with 3 options:
1. Zion doesn't think like me, and would pick $100k over the best college coach. Seems pretty short-sighted, but possible.
2. We're dealing with a lot bigger sums of money here, and someone is paying Zion $500k-$1M+ to play at a different program. Seems sort of unlikely based on what I've read about bagmen.
3. There is something else I'm missing here, and it's not as simple as Zion being woo'ed by money.
1. Don't buy into that $1.4 mil propaganda.
2. Anthony Davis got 300+, and that was 6 years ago. Cost of living has gone wayyyy up.
There is a slight chance that recruits want to play for a school because they really like the coach and/or players.
I have no source other than Knox's dad, it's true. But according to this (source: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/sports/basketball/05jennings.html) Brandon Jenmings made $1.2 million in "salary and endorsements" playing abroad almost 10 years ago. Seems totally conceivable Knox could receive a similar amount. I don't know that $300k is all that much to them, although I could see it helping decide between similar programs.1. Don't buy into that $1.4 mil propaganda.
2. Anthony Davis got 300+, and that was 6 years ago. Cost of living has gone wayyyy up.
I'm not claiming that the players are getting paid. I asked why someone like Zion would rule us out so early, and the first response I got was "dirty money". I'm just following this line of reasoning down the rabbithole.
I know you're not, but like you said it was the first response you got. There are people on here who will forget from time to time that a recruit can actually have a reason to say no to us that doesn't involve anything shady.
Yeah, Zion just may like some other places better than UNC. I hope that changes but it seems to be the case. We look at everything as UNC fans. That isn't really the way it works for most of these kids. They aren't really fans.
What makes us think that other schools pay players under the table, with boosters, etc. but UNC/Williams do not?
If you are directly involved in recruiting and AAU hoops it's no secret.
When a coach or his bag man point blank ask you, " How much will it cost to get ********'s signature?"
Where there's smoke there's fire, and RW's name is not floating around like that.
^ I'm ready to see UNC offers Baker on the front page! He is one of my favorites for 2019 and being an in-state kid, we need to lock him up.
x1000. Baker is now 6'7" as a sophomore and in the tournament last week he was described as having a deft touch , athletic and being able to score with either hand. He said he is hearing the most from KU , FL , TX and UL(this is disturbing) . WF has offered and Keatts told him moo will offer soon. Roy has been watching him and I just hope he offers soon. This same article which is on Rivals so I won't bother to attach it , said Roy and Cal were lurking when Naz Reid was playing and there was no mention of UNC and Norris. Norris said to be focusing on Oregon and Arizona.
You make a correct assumption. And if you care to believe some of my Clemson friends (and I live in SC where they are everywhere) the way that Brownell convinced Radakovich to keep him, when he should have been fired this year, was the lure that he could get Zion. Family does have Clemson ties of some sort. As far as paying him? Clemson basketball and Brownell are both about as desperate as one can imagine. Figure they would do whatever it takes to bring in a player of that caliber. USC is really turning up the pressure also, but with Martin's success this year they aren't nearly in the desperate situation that Clemson is in.
This is an interesting take on Brownell's situation, and some of our other sandlappers on the board have hinted at the same. Hafta admit, I've wondered myself. I started my HS coaching stint in SC back in the day, but I'm not at all close to Clemmy's internal workings these days.
What I HAVE heard thru the grapevine that supports that thesis is that their program/boosters are indeed desperate to compete in hoops, so much so that they're willing to unleash a taste of the same forces that have made their football recruiting such a recent juggernaut, much like the REC at bama is doing for Avery Johnson right about now.
Clemson is basically an SEC school in the ACC. Football rules the roost and the boost(ers). They have a long and sordid history of gridiron cruitin' shenanigans --- basketball normally sucks hind tit, but has had its moments when they feel randy enough to try and compete. They just dumped a lotta $ into Littlejon so I'm sure they want something to show for it. #IPTAY
Don't bet Zion leaves the state of SC to attend college, this is a Clemson vs USC fight and I think the cocks are slightly in the lead for now. Kid is in Clemson territory and has a ton whispers as well as family ties to Clemson but Frank Martin is turning heads and I think is the stronger bet.
Even if he includes us, duke, Ky it is nothing but resume fluff, don't buy that SMOKE.
Yeah, I'm not really one to point fingers at other schools when it comes to recruiting. Sometimes kids just like other schools more than UNC. Doesn't bother me a bit. TBS, I do feel like our recruiting is about to experience an uptick.
I would like to see an offer yesterday. It would be a shame to see him leave the state.
I get the feeling it's either Clemson or SC. He could dominate either team for one year.
I read in an article a month or so ago that Bol wanted to be recruited by UNC, I haven't heard or read a thing since with Bol and UNC in the same sentence.
Yeah, can tell. Though it's likely that they won't be playing together by the time he gets here, potentially having his buddy Nickelberry on the roster wouldn't hurt either.
Doesn't sound like we've been hard on him, didn't even really mention us on his list. Did mention State though
But it's definitely a good start. Hope we see the "Roy visits Baker" headline more often.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...-indy-friday-baker-and-norris-make-statements
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RW and Baker are cool.
Miles is a different story, the "storms" out west are blowing against us, but it would nice to get that Cali connection started again. So much elite talent out there.
RW and Baker are cool.
Miles is a different story, the "storms" out west are blowing against us, but it would nice to get that Cali connection started again. So much elite talent out there.
Baker has attended multiple UNC games this past season. I will be absolutely disgusted if Baker ends up at moo. Ian Steere seems to have come out of nowhere. Rivals(3*) , 247(unrated) and Scout(not in database) seem to have very little on him. I read that Roy was watching him , but there was no mention of his stats.Yeah, can tell. Though it's likely that they won't be playing together by the time he gets here, potentially having his buddy Nickelberry on the roster wouldn't hurt either.
Doesn't sound like we've been hard on him, didn't even really mention us on his list. Did mention State though
But it's definitely a good start. Hope we see the "Roy visits Baker" headline more often.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...-indy-friday-baker-and-norris-make-statements
The first 2 states listed in my OP produce more high end D1 talent than NY. Sorry but it's the truth.
Ashton Hagans says we're starting to recruit him. #32 in 2019 according to Rivals.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...tlanta-big-numbers-for-five-star-jordan-brown
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...tlanta-big-numbers-for-five-star-jordan-brown
Hmmmmmm, maybe ole Roy is reading the tea-leaves with PG's coming in and (soon heading to the NBA). Maybe.
Ian Steere is blowing up recently and loves UNC. He was just offered by KU and others. Gotta think Roy gets more involved soon and hopefully offers.
Hagans is 2019.
Felton will be in the NBA by then, Seventh will be heading into his senior year.
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