Which Transfers Should WE Be Looking At? If Any.
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No one has mentioned Brakefield. Freshman ranked in the 40's out if high school. Sounds like what we would be looking for. 😀
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Tweener, we have one signed already in Styles. Where will Brakefield play? He is not known for his shooting. I like him as a long term player, but don't see the fit for our needs next season.
Pretty disappointing that we might could’ve had Grady and Roy sat on this while Cal took him. We have open schollies and glaring holes to fill including a viable option at SF. Not sure why we let Grady go elsewhere. Roy has got to get a Leaky replacement ASAP.
He’s a very poor decision maker, he chose dook! On the flip side though, he did just make an outstanding decision to leave that cesspool, so maybe he’s coming around.
Watch Baylor, Houston, Gonzaga, etc. Which of our guards are ready to play like their guys? I like Davis and Harris, but if they're not ready for that kind of play next year, we should try to upgrade. No reason to punt a third year in a row, and with the state of the game now anyone is liable to transfer or go pro at any time anyway. I'd recruit for this year, and let the chips fall where they may. We will play min four guys big minutes at 1-3 and right now only Love and Walton should give you any confidence. Davis was not good at all last year. Passing, shooting, ball handling all need work, and his defense might not ever be very good. I don't think Harris or Leaky should be blocking anyone at this point.
They were disappointing relative to their ranking, but as others have said, much more talent this year. Not sure why n=2 is enough to write off all transfers anyway.
...why would we do this?
Roy Ignoring a kid with UNC interest despite a glaring need? Nothing new.
Not sure about this brakefield or goldwire chatter. A former dookie as a Tar Heel?? Not sure that will work nor can I welcome them with open arms. They are being sent to infiltrate our secrets and report back to the evil one.
Grady to kensucky would’ve love to see him here but Roy knows best (I hope).
Haters have to hate I guess! This is the only reason I can fathom for all the assumptions that Roy wouldn't know what our needs are and go all out to fill them! It is just as stupid to the extreme to assume our wings/shooters won't improve as it is to assume they will become Klay Thompson!
Alternative reality: Roy did contact someone near Grady and was told he was going to Kentuck./or sees that we have enough in the fold to work with. He is in contact/evaluating Bigs, Shooters, and potential wings! He can't recruit 800 peeps so he might not go after your favorite, but might still be in his right mind!
Perspective, like Cocaine, is a heck of a drug!
Alternative reality: Roy did contact someone near Grady and was told he was going to Kentuck./or sees that we have enough in the fold to work with. He is in contact/evaluating Bigs, Shooters, and potential wings! He can't recruit 800 peeps so he might not go after your favorite, but might still be in his right mind!
Perspective, like Cocaine, is a heck of a drug!
Big men are really the only ones who drastically improve their outside shooting, as they are also usually correcting form. If you are a guard you either can shoot it or you can't its that simple. Especially if anyone on here STILL expects Black to improve his shot with an off-season.
Leaky can’t shoot and will never but your statement about guards not improving their shot is just wrong.
Don’t tell that to Ray Felton, Ty Lawson, Justin Jackson etc who all saw their 3pt shooting % improve drastically from freshman to junior seasons.
Don’t you hate when those pesky stats get in the way of crap arguments.
And our guards were not just freshmen but freshmen in the covid season so it has been extra hard for these young fellas to be compared to the very experienced back courts you mention. WE all watched this season, we all saw how much we struggled with back court play and we all know that back court play was from freshmen, not just 1 freshman but the 3 guards that got the most minutes, all freshmen, lack of experience was the problem, that could not be more clear. Any of those teams you mention play with their top 3 (actually 4 considering Ant became available about half way thru) guards all freshmen?
Now I watch Tar Heel fans all the time, they on the one hand quickly say they do not want us to become a 1 and done program like duke and Ky and I agree with that notion. But on the other hand our fans get excited at the prospect of our getting great 5star players that Roy offered, everyone was over the top excited when our last freshman class came together loaded with 5 star potential 1 and done talent. So having the very thing that they say they do not want had them excited? But the problem having a lot of freshmen is that you have to play a lot of freshmen, you can hide a lot of errors from 1 freshman but when all 4 of your top guards are freshmen, I mean ONLY platek was not a freshman and his PT took a major hit when Ant finally was ready to play.
Those shiny new portal toys look great from here but so did our freshmen guards when they committed to us, so did Pirece and Keeling when they transferred to us but their transition didn't go well. I don't want to see our back court broken up now that they are at the point of being able to use that experience from this season and build on it for that soph bump we always see in our players. This is about team building, while step one in team building is to bring in talent, step 2 is getting them experienced and history shows us at UNC that typically takes more than a single season. I am not going to argue that I see huge talent and huge upsides for our guys that were freshmen this season, you either saw what I saw or not, will simply say I saw enough from our back court to believe that we have as good a set of guards talent wise as any in the country and that they will be outstanding when the experience they now have is built upon. I would not trade one single freshman guard that we have for any other guard in the portal because our freshmen now have a year of experience not just in the college game but UNC experience and that is a vital part of what this team needs, guards that know how to pay like Roy wants them to play. Just my opinion but I think it is a pretty darn educated one.
Do you know the Joel Berry story? Came to UNC as a play maker but not a great jump shooter, considered leaving because he was not getting PT, worked his butt off between his freshman and soph season to develop himself in to a great jump shooter?
Now I will agree that a kid that just is not a good shooter is not going to magically become one, for example, Leaky is Leaky, he just does not have that shooters feel or a shooters confidence, it just isn't there, it is going to be there. Ant for example, I think he has the feel but his mechanics need work, add that shooters feel to proper mechanics and the dedication to pump up thousands of shots in the off season and you can see big changes. Love, RJ, and of course Walton are all really solid jump shooters when they take good looks and I think especially Love & RJ struggled with good shot selection for most of this season.
Lol Lawson also was a 36% 3 point shooter his freshman year which I think we would all take for some of our players now. Love shot 26% which is just putrid. Yes people can improve shooting percentages even guards, but we should not rely on straight awful shooters to just become good, and push aside the fact that we should sign at least one shooter.
Lol Berry wasn't an awful shooter coming into UNC, and ended his senior year with the worst shooting % of his career. Granted he took the most attempts, but it still isn't some magical success story.
After the turmoil among the players considering transfer, Roy is not about to bring another guard in.
I just skimmed the 247 list. Looks like 20 ACC players have entered the portal, so far. Latest is seldom-used center John Bol Ajak from Syracuse.
I don't recall him considering leaving. Probably just my bad memory.
He had to fight Nate Britt for the starting role for about 3/4 of his freshman season, but had won it by the end of the year. Might have gotten there sooner, but had some injury just about the time he clinched it, and that set him back a little.
I think he may have expected to get handed the keys right away, because he was, after all, a better player. But to Nate's credit, he gave Joel tough competion and made him earn it.
If this forum contained comments from anyone who truly knew the stories behind why we did or did not pursue certain players it'd be a ghost town in here.
Do you not pay attention to the leap most of our players make between freshman & sophomore years? Exhibit A is Armando Bacot. Not to mention we should have a much more normal off-season this year. I expect Love, Davis, & Walton to look much better next year, & let’s not forget about D’Marco Dunn (& Harris) who appears to have a little bit of an edge to him. I think we’re fine at guard for next season.
I actually do know some stories from back in the day, and it is true soap opera/spy thriller stuff behind the curtain! (no connections now sadly) Talent is NOT the only thing UNC considers thankfully! I can still say I am proud of the way UNC conducts its business!
gd15NC was added to my suspected troll ignore list. Troll is the only way I can make sense of the tenor of his posts.
gd15NC was added to my suspected troll ignore list. Troll is the only way I can make sense of the tenor of his posts.
Lol troll list? Because I want us to go after another guard who can really shoot the ball? Good one. I'm not freaking out about a bunch of guys in specific who may not fit the criteria Roy wants (esp. If it involves their character), I just want to be able to shoot the ball better next year from 3, even if all of our players improve a little. Never hurts to add a shooter. Ill add you to my sunshine pumping douchebag ignore list.
Tre Mitchell, Fletcher & the decommit from Marquette Jonas would be my choices with Jonas as priority #1
Is there an end date that kids must enter the transfer portal by?
What if a kid is in the transfer portal, but doesn't get picked up by a school to his liking. Can he go back to the school he transferred from? I assume not. That would be quite awkward and not work out well.
I hope this transfer portal mania never happens again, even if the Heels come out net positive this year. It is a pure free for all, like another entire recruiting season. How are coaches supposed to manage, knowing they will have lost 1-5 or more players, and now too late in the game to recruit replacements, or other players in the portal.
All the time the transfer kids spent with the original team, learning the system, the coach, the teammates...all the learning in practice and games, benefit from playing with and getting to know teammates and coaches and their tendencies....all out the window. Nice.
What if a kid is in the transfer portal, but doesn't get picked up by a school to his liking. Can he go back to the school he transferred from? I assume not. That would be quite awkward and not work out well.
I hope this transfer portal mania never happens again, even if the Heels come out net positive this year. It is a pure free for all, like another entire recruiting season. How are coaches supposed to manage, knowing they will have lost 1-5 or more players, and now too late in the game to recruit replacements, or other players in the portal.
All the time the transfer kids spent with the original team, learning the system, the coach, the teammates...all the learning in practice and games, benefit from playing with and getting to know teammates and coaches and their tendencies....all out the window. Nice.
Sure is. State just offered him and he’s got a virtual meeting set up with VA tonight. Va Tech, Pitt, Miami, Florida and Arkansas are also after him.
Sounds like we have reached out to Noah Locke..the guard from Florida
Re-watch Joel's senior night speech, he tells his story right there, easy to find on you tube.
Joel was in no way considered a solid jump shooter when he committed to UNC, he was considered a bull dog play maker but not a shooter, not to say he was Leaky bad as a shooter but he was not near the shooter he ended up becoming. Had Joel been considered a knock down jump shooter prior to UNC he very likely would have been considered the best PG in that class rather than Trey Jones that went to duke. The 2 knocks on Joel prior to coming to UNC was his height and that he was not a great jump shooter.
Yikes! Five Washington players entered the portal since yesterday afternoon when I last checked.
That's gotta hurt.
Did they lose their coach, too?
That's gotta hurt.
Did they lose their coach, too?
It’s a madhouse. No way to make sense of it all. I don’t know how any coach can sleep at night. Or plan recruiting for next year....
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